Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 January 5

= January 5 =

Citation Bot Removing Citations?
Could someone have a look at the edit history of the article I created this afternoon on James Hales? I added some citations, and a citation book deleted them, or so it appears. NinaGreen (talk) 01:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The citation bot also appears to have deleted a section of text, i.e. Margaret Hales' relationship to the poet Barnaby Googe. See . NinaGreen (talk) 01:13, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It looks like the bot made a mistake. You should probably reverse them and tell the bot's programmer about it so he can fix it. 01:19, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I've left a message for the bot's creator on his Talk page and on the Talk page of the article. NinaGreen (talk) 02:12, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

High Dataspace Server Lag
Hi. Is there a problem with the server right now? I can not load any userpages and I just get the following Error "High Dataspace Server Lag". What gives? Andrew Wiggin (talk) 03:01, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yea, I'm having lag too. These things happen. Should be back to maximum efficiency shortly. :)  Salvidrim!   03:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

WAZL Has A New Logo
WAZL Has A New Logo, And Here's The Direct Link To That New Logo. 98.229.132.126 (talk) 05:13, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I have updated the logo with the file that you linked. Alpha_Quadrant   (talk)  07:47, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Copyright violation
Last year, the article Seep (card game) was flagged as a copyright violation of pagat.com, and then deleted. Two days ago it was recreated, and today the text from that page was copied into it again. So I tried to follow the instructions at Copyright_violations, and added a tag to it. But the text generated by my tag reads oddly: "This http://www.pagat.com/fishing/seep.html may have been copied and pasted ...". Did I do the tag wrong? Maproom (talk) 11:19, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You missed "url=" in front of the web address. C T F 8 3 !  11:39, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You may wish to tag it for speedy deletion,, if it is warranted, I don't have time to look it over right not to check.  C T F 8 3 !  11:41, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help and advice. I have now tagged it for speedy deletion instead, as it is a very clear case (and has already been speedy-deleted once on the same grounds). Maproom (talk) 12:02, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Nowrap prevents formulas from being shown
In the article regular prime, in the sections Kummer's criterion, Irregular pairs and History there are mathematical formulas inside a. It seems that this prevents the formulas from being shown correctly, because all I see in place of the formulas is. I guess that it has to do with the template. What exactly is the problem here? If it has indeed to do with the nowrap template, then why does the template prevent the correct display of the formulas? --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  13:18, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * To find the answer you need to read Template:Nowrap. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:33, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

The Church of God of North Carolina historical article
This organization has been deleted by someone unknown by us. We can be found at www.thechurchofgodofnc.com

We do not know who wrote the article initially but its content was correct and we would like to get it back.

John A. Wilkins, Jr., International Overseer — Preceding unsigned comment added by John A, Wilkins, Jr. (talk • contribs) 16:24, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The deletion discussion (in 2008) was at Articles for deletion/The Church of God of North Carolina. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:30, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * In case the terms in that discussion are a little cryptic for you, the point is that the sole criterion for whether Wikipedia should have an article on a subject is if the subject is what we call notable; which means, roughly, that reliable sources, independent of the subject have written about the subject. Whether the subject wants or approves the article has very little weight. --ColinFine (talk) 22:08, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Actually "Whether the subject wants or approves the article" is of absolutely no consequence at all. Roger (talk) 20:51, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Cite book (bug)
Where does one report a bug in the Cite » book toolbar/template?

Its an annoying little bug, and I'm surprised it hasn't been noticed (or has it?). When using 'Cite' from the edit toolbar, and selecting 'Book' template, and then using the ISBN autofill feature, what happens is:

Autofill adds "ed." to the edition field (e.g.: "2nd ed.") — then, the template also adds "ed." — and what you end up with is (for example) "2nd ed. ed.", which must be manually corrected. This also happens in other data fields, but I don't recall which one(s). ~Thanks, ~Eric F 74.60.29.141 (talk) 16:32, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * RefToolbar uses a lookup tool for ISBN. If the database fields include ed., then it will be included. Not much anyone can do on this. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 21:16, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

About a complication of Laparoscopic surgery
I operated a patient for calculous cholecystitis and did lap chole. About a month after the operation, patient reported with Jaundice. I suspected something wrong and referred the patient to higher centre for further management. Patient went to Kolkata and there she was operated and hepatico-jejunostomy was done for CHD stricture.Patient is alright now.I want to know,
 * 1) Whether the injury to extrahepatic biliary system is an acknowledged complication or not?
 * 2) Is it an accidental complication or deliberate injury made by the surgeon to the patient.?
 * 3) If the patient had been detected for biliary injury postoperatively, what should be optimum time for the operation to be done?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.98.36.29 (talk) 16:34, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * We're sorry, but we can't help you with your situation. This help desk is for questions related to editing Wikipedia, and the reference desk if for information about almost everything else except medical or legal advice.


 * ~Best wishes on finding your answers, ~Eric 74.60.29.141 (talk) 19:02, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Help uploading image
Is there anyone who would be willing to help me upload an image? I want to add the image that I found on this webpage to the Animation section of the article Hoodwinked! to provide an example of the film's visual inspiration. I think that the image would be considered fair use, but I have never understood how to fill out the necessary form. Could anyone help me? --Jpcase (talk) 16:57, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that "fair use" might be a hard sell. Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer isn't mentioned in the article, and stop motion is only briefly discussed, and the article is a FA.


 * ~But, that's just my 2¢ ~E :modified: 74.60.29.141 (talk) 17:58, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer isn't mentioned by name, but Rankin-Bass (the company that created the film) is. I think that it could be a great addition to the article to show Rankin-Bass' visual style, since Hoodwinked!'s director named it specifically as being a significant inspiration on the film's design. --Jpcase (talk) 18:12, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps. It seems like the Help desk regulars are out to lunch or something.  You could upload it yourself. I'm surprised nobody has provided the link to help assist justifying fair use, etc., have you tried: Fair use rationale guideline ? ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 18:39, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for providing that link. I'm not sure how much it helps though. It mostly just gives a general idea of what the questions are looking for, which I already kind of knew. My problem is that I have no idea what to specifically write to answer the questions. If anyone is actually willing to fill out the form for me, that may be ideal. --Jpcase (talk) 19:24, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd like to provide more assistance, but as an IP, I've never done that. Perhaps you could try help me on your talk page (?). ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 21:22, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

List of college football coaches with a .750 winning percentage
I'm a Oklahoma Sooner football fan, and was just curious about the success that our current coach,Bob Stoops is having. I noticed that it shows that he has no titles/ national championships. Bob Stoops won his first national tile by beating the Florida State Seminoles 13-0 in the Orange Bowl-BCS Title game for the 2000 college football season. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Namelocdot (talk • contribs) 18:06, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If you can provide reliable source(s), you are more than welcome to edit the article. "Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit." ;) ~E74.60.29.141 (talk) 18:47, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If you paste a url here with the game score then someone may add it for you. You could add it yourself but url references are a little tricky.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:01, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, I am confused. The article about Bob Stoops mentions not just once, but twice the Orange Bowl win in 2000, and the national championship the Sooners were awarded as a result.  That information has been in the article for years.  -- Jayron  32  19:07, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Avon, Ohio
Avon, Ohio. The layout looks awkward to me. All the white space near the top.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:24, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Never been there — maybe that's just snow. (Sorry, couldn't resist)
 * The problem seems to be that Geographic Location won't play nice with the Infobox. Don't see any solution besides moving the 'Geography' section below the Infobox (or tinker with the template). ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 21:15, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

I think I fixed it but someone may wish to check my work.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:36, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That's probably the best you can do. I noticed that it's possible to nest the Location template inside the Infobox - but that looks odd as well (makes the Infobox wider).  Btw, while I was at it, I included a footnote re: Wilbur Cahoon House.  And... was tempted to add a 'cn-tag' for the city's "motto" -but, who's to say? ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 00:57, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Since I can't ask for a ban...
Could someone give a hand and help me revert these contributions?

Note: I can't choose the vandalism only option on the Twinkle report to admins popup. Dismas |(talk) 20:44, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The IP is blocked and all the edits have been reverted. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:22, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Movie the Hunger Game
I started to watch the movie the Hunger Game. Have we lost all contact with reality? With children killing children in massacure style In schools all around our nation how can the movie industry make such a movie as this. As soon as I realized what I was watching I imeaditaly turned it off. I want to protect everyones rights of self expression but when it flys in the face of all that is good there has to be some controls — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.100.122.50 (talk) 22:09, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Did you have a question about how to use or edit Wikipedia? - David Biddulph (talk) 22:58, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Kayau (talk · contribs) 03:44, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I can well understand your grief, but we know that hysteria has gone out of hand when you can not even paying off a picture of a gun, of twitter while residing in an English speaking country, because some do believe that it is because it is a mockery of school shootings, tilt rods to you live 7,000 kilometers away from where it happened--80.161.143.239 (talk) 09:46, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * This is a page for getting help on using Wikipedia. Please do not add general discussion about the topic of a question. --ColinFine (talk) 13:31, 6 January 2013 (UTC)