Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 January 6

= January 6 =

user posting abusive comments
Hello, You have a user (JoyfulNurse2) that is posting abusive comments concerning Brandi Rose Hawbaker and my family on your website. [BLP violations (Redacted) ]

This user is in clear violation of your legal terms as stated on your website. I respectfully request that you immediately delete her comments and restrict her user account from posting again. If needed, we can send a copy of all legal documents validating her mental condition and court decisions against her.

The link to the abusive comments are found on Brandi Hawbakers Page. Brandi Hawbaker

Thank you for your assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leedezine (talk • contribs) 01:02, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The article has been reverted back to a BLP-compliant version. I have requested that it be temporarily protected.--ukexpat (talk) 01:28, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Note also that I have redacted your comments here about the other user as they were themselves violations of the BLP. I will ask for them to be oversighted.--ukexpat (talk) 03:05, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

I've nominated the article for deletion as non-notable: Articles for deletion/Brandi Hawbaker (4th_nomination). —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 03:11, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Moved to talk page and AfD. --Canoe1967 (talk) 03:47, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Infobox bunching
At Nik Stauskas, the external media is getting pushed down by the infobox. Can this be changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs)


 * I have taken a stab at it, how does it look now?--ukexpat (talk) 01:39, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Now it is below the infobox but on the right instead of the left. Still no good.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:41, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The left alignment was causing worse layout problems so I moved it to the right. Where exactly do you want the em template to appear in the article? How about further down near the EL section analagous to where we put templates such as Commons?--ukexpat (talk) 03:00, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree it is most relevant in the EL section, is there any specific reason to place it elsewhere?  Salvidrim!   03:08, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * My intent was to have the el from his high school years in the background section and the one from this year in the college section.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:45, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Fieldgun Competion
Good morning,
 * Please update on the page "Fieldgun Competion". If you scroll right down to External links and references.

Portsmouth Field Gun Association(PFGA) has a new website: www.portsmouthfieldgunners.org.uk

Can you please update this.

Thank you

Rob Wyatt Webmaster for the PFGAFieldgun4 (talk) 07:06, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Information.svg Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills.  New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). I've updated the link for you for now, but next time, you can do it without asking. ;) Kayau (talk · contribs) 07:12, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It seems to me there are far too many external links in that article. --ColinFine (talk) 09:00, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Indeed so, hence the tag that I added.--ukexpat (talk) 14:54, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello My name is Brooke Langton
Your site has an article from the LATIMES as a resource for the "facts" that I am "married" to Randall Zisk. I am not married to him nor his "partner", I have never been married to him and the LA times wrote that libelously. I am in the process of getting their information corrected. I also am the only child Of Roberta And Jackson Langton. I do not have any blood brothers. Please remove this untrue information immediately. Also OCD Experience will be removing any slanders they have of me immediately as well. Thank you, Best to you, Brooke Langton — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brookalook (talk • contribs) 07:53, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Feel free to follow discussions at Talk:Brooke Langton.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:32, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

BLP
you should still help a user to remove incorrect information on personal matters if he starts swearing at one and wiki project, both here and in the example. twitter because he did not think you did it fast enough. --80.161.143.239 (talk) 09:34, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

dont smile without sense — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.76.148.155 (talk) 10:00, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It is hard to understand your question, especially as you give no hint of what article or user you are talking about. But yes, we should remove unsourced information from BLP articles, even if users are abusive. Wikipedia's guidelines include no personal attacks and assume good faith: if you consider a user is making personal attacks, see WP:ABUSE.
 * I have no idea what the comment from 41.76 means, or whether it is a response to the question or something else entirely. --ColinFine (talk) 13:36, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

cc-by-sa-nc explanation for newbies
Offline, I'm trying to explain to an image uploader why we don't accept non-commercial licences like cc-by-sa-nc. To save my typing it all out, do we have a "why wikipedia doesn't accept content which isn't licenced for commercial reuse" page, suitable for giving to such a person. Stuff like Wikipedia talk:Image use policy/Noncommercial-use isn't newbie friendly. -- Finlay McWalterჷTalk 11:53, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know of anything. Why don't you simply say something like (or copy/paste) the following?  "When Wikipedia was set up, the founders wanted people to be able to copy it for any purposes, including commercial use, without having to ask for special permission.  Basically, the founders thought that non-commercial-only content, which includes cc-by-sa-nc, would make the encyclopedia less useful."  Nyttend (talk) 16:55, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Coincidence, I just had a similar discussion on OTRS, where someone wanted to use an NC license. You might point them to the Five pillars, one of which says:
 * Wikipedia is free content that anyone can edit, use, modify, and distribute.
 * The BY and SA restriction isn't considered onerous, but NC and ND restrictions are.-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  20:44, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Corporal name
sir,
 * i would like to know about all corporal name from 1971 to 1978. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.18.231.32 (talk) 12:16, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are asking. This is a help-desk for how to use and edit Wikipedia. For general knowledge questions, you could ask at the reference desk; but I doubt that anybody will be able to answer you, as "corporal name" is not a phrase I recognise in English. I guess you might mean "Corporate name", but if that is what you want, a list will be huge, especially as you have given no indication what country or region you are asking about. --ColinFine (talk) 13:38, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Corporal is a military rank so the question might be about the names of corporals somewhere. We have thousands of articles about military units and even if you told us which one you are interested in, the names would probably not be publicly available. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:59, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Help with a Location map template
G'day all, I have uploaded a file to Commons called File:Independent State Of Croatia 1941 (East) Locator Map.png and tried to create a Location map template here Template:Location map NDH (east) so I could use it in an article. But it is showing the name in red. Initially the Commons file name was also in red, but it has now resolved without me mucking around with it. I cannot work out what I have done wrong, as I managed to create a Location map template the other day OK. Could someone lend a hand? Thanks, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 14:01, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The redlink is beacause the article NDH (east) does not exist. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:30, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, but the template still seems to work alright. If I change the name to NDH (which is an article name), will it effect the operation of the template? Peacemaker67 (send... over) 14:34, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think it will effect the operation. As far as I can tell, the parameter is only used to create the table heading and article link on the template page. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:51, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll give it a crack. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 14:53, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The name parameter is documented at Template:Location map/Info. You need to choose something so that the text displayed below each use of the map looks right. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:54, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks John! Peacemaker67 (send... over) 14:56, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Alfred Kinsey
I must inform mods and admins that there are lies about Alfred Kinsey on his page. This page: Alfred Kinsey and this page Talk:Alfred Kinsey are full of lies. Could somebody correct that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laethey (talk • contribs) 15:07, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Not unless you tell us what is incorrect, and what reliable source makes you believe it is incorrect, no. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:10, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * And we don't have "mods". Just volunteers. Admins have additional rights and abilities but they are volunteers too.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 22:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Concerns about editor's methods
There is an editor who is putting split tags on a large number of articles and then after a short period of time partially splitting the article and then leaving it. When people are realising what has happened, and try to restore the articles, he is immediately reverting with the claim that he had no objections. Obviously he didn't because people either did not have time to respond or did not understand that his intention was to do this. At the moment there are many articles that as lists of items and for example items A-C have been split into a separate article and items D-Z are in the main article. Can you please advise which forum I should take this, since a fear he is being very destructive at present. Op47 (talk) 16:10, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You can try WP:ANI. Ruslik_ Zero 18:47, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

accidentally skipped AfDnx:2nd nomination
Hi, I was trying to nominate Suicide of Amanda Todd for deletion a second time, and failed miserable at doing it manually. I reverted it, but when I was advised that twinkle would allow me to create a secondary nomination and did so, it labeled it as the third nomnation. Can someone help adjust this to second nomination? Thanks! L.cash.m (talk) 21:08, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * There was already a second nomination per here  Jay Jay What did I do? 21:17, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * So there was, thanks. L.cash.m (talk) 22:33, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Bullying by Altered Walter and Harry the Dirty Dog WOOF
Libertad Green

This page has been deleted, according to Altered Walter, because it contains assertions which appear to be "deliberate jokes or hoax." Harry the Dirty Dog WOOF has also made disparaging remarks about this article. Altogether, I feel that their behavior constitutes bullying. In creating and recreating this article, I have provided numerous sources as reliable as many often found at the bottom of WikiPedia articles. None of the assertions I made in my articles are jokes nor is this article a hoax. With a little research on the Internet, anyone can discover that Libertad Green is, in fact, one of the few women to have starred in the role of the Biblical Queen Jezebel in a film - a film recognized by the Dove Foundation and the Christian Film Database, both of which have articles on WikiPedia. With a little research, one can also discover that Libertad Green is the performer in a "Hawaiian Hula dance" video, which has over 1.6 million views, and a thumbnail and link to which is among the first hits when Googling "Hawaiian Hula" or "Hawaiian Hula dance" or searching for these phrases. Both of these accomplishments are notable, and none of the material I have submitted is a joke or a hoax.

If anything on WikiPedia is a joke, it's the names of moderators like "Altered Walter" and "Harry the Dirty Dog."William Mortensen Vaughan, U.S. Army Staff Sergeant (Retired) (talk) 22:57, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry for your troubles, but do you have anything specific you want help with? I see there is basically a problem of notability, perhaps you should concede that the subject simply isn't notable by Wikipedia's standards. Is "Biblical Queen Jezebel" a itself notable film? Either way, notability is not inherited. Page views are not a criteria for notability either. Generally articles require significant coverage directly on the subject from reliable sources, judging by the above and the AfD discussion this simply doesn't exist. Tenuous connections to possibly notable institutions and indirect sources etc just doesn't cut it.  Я ehevkor ✉  23:28, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think Mr Vaughan is suggesting that Biblical Queen Jezebel is the title of a film, but the description of a character in a film he has not named. The deletion discussion is at Articles for deletion/Libertad Green, where the two named users did contribute. I can't see the deleted article, as I am not an administrator, but I don't see anything in that discussion which I would call bullying, and if what they say about the article is correct, it should have been deleted. Mr Vaughan, you can appeal the deletion by the procedure in WP:Deletion Review, but you should familiarise yourself with Wikipedia's policy on what notabaility means, and also (if Harry the Dirty Dog's comment is correct) on conflict of interest. --ColinFine (talk) 22:59, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

I am Mr. Vaughan. I do not concede that Libertad Green is not notable by Wikipedia standards, while other actors with significantly less notability and references have Wikipedia articles and are obviously not being bullied by Wikipedia moderators the way me and Libertad Green are.

The Biblical Queen Jezebel IS the name of a character in a film I HAVE NAMED; it's name is Blast and Whisper. Oh, and, BTW, the Biblical Queen Jezebel is not just a character in a movie, but a historical, Biblical person with a Wikipedia article. I have repeatedly provided dozens of third-party sources as reliable as most of the sources you find on Wikipedia to support my assertions about Libertad Green. Mine get deleted; other people's are allowed to remain on Wikipedia. You people are obviously not paying nearly attention to be of any help.William Mortensen Vaughan, U.S. Army Staff Sergeant (Retired) (talk) 13:48, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

English Wikipedia account, foreign language article
I created an article in another language and want to post it for review by editors who speak that language (the article will have the greatest interest among speakers of that language). How do I do this from my English Wikipedia account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mristich (talk • contribs) 23:54, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * This help desk and the draft at User:Mristich are at the English Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org. It's only for articles in English. The Croatian Wikipedia is at http://hr.wikipedia.org. Your account also works there. Special:CentralAuth/Mristich shows it's already registered. I don't know their practice for reviewing articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:41, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Help with blocked article
Hi, Please check the discussion in the Berkeley Design Automation Talk page. An independent Wikepedia contributor and industry expert has offered to edit the article to make sure it conforms with the guidelines and we have not heard back from the editor that blocked it.

The page is at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bda_webmaster#Berkeley_Design_Automation

Thanks Mickt77 (talk) 22:24, 9 January 2013 (UTC)