Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 July 30

= July 30 =

Non Free image alert
I do not actually know where to report this type of problem? Anyway a new user is starting a portfolio of image related vandalism - including replacing pictures with large HQ files and uploading images of BLP's and passing them off as their own work, effectively releasing them into commons - despite the upload names matching file names when you click and save on a Google images search - you know the type "picture x 6757-87-00000.jpg" Rain   the 1  00:34, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I see some editors or individually reverting them on the wiki articles, have you posted this at Copyright_problems? (and yes of course there is a backlog there).  Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way  04:34, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello. Thank you for taking the time to offer a reply. I think I will leave the editor to uploading non-free images until someone with the correct standing deal with it. If it takes that long for me to solve a problem that can be seen to in five minutes by an admin - my time is probably going to be better spent expanding articles or something. Hopefully an admin is alerted and prevents them from making a larger scale problem. But they do appear to have stopped now, which is good. Rain  the 1  18:55, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Screwdrivers
Why does your page on screwdrivers totally suck? Why does it fail to explain the reason for the success of the Philips screwdriver is ease of assembly because the screwdriver does not come out as it does with a slot screw. Why does it say that a Phillips screw can be turned with a flat screwdriver? This is a good way to destroy the screw, especially if you are trying to unscrew something that is rusted in and needs a lot of torque. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.121.108 (talk) 01:10, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Any complaint about the quality of an article can be resolved by improving the article, which you are invited to do, provided that your coverage of the material is not comprised of original research, is presented with a neutral tone and is backed by reliable sources. So the more direct answer for why the article sucks, is because you haven't yet volunteered your time to fix it.  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:38, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Agree with Cyphoidbomb, you may wish to read WP:BOLD which will alert you to the fact that we are all volunteers and if you are passionate and have expertise on a subject than really why haven't you made a contribution of that knowledge to wikipedia? Just be sure you have WP:RELIABLESOURCES for your constructive additions to articles.  Happy editing! :-)   Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way   08:20, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh and "totally sucks" isn't exactly the way you encourage other wikipedians to enlighten you on subject matter here, which is really what Wikipedia is all about. Perhaps it is your turn to pass your knowledge on by adding to articles instead of sitting in the popcorn seats.  To quote TR: It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat. Once again, happy editing!   Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way   08:24, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

sam smith/sportswriter
You have an entry on your wikipedia site about me. I write now for Bulls.com, but previously for the Chicago Tribune and have written books on Michael Jordan and have been honored by the Basketball Hall of Fame. But the entry you have has been a joke and inaccurate for several years. Now I find some of my publishers have been using wikipedia for biographical information of me. So I'd like to offer an accurate biography, assuming you would be interested in that. I'd cerainly hope so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.201.142.83 (talk) 01:36, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Put your requested changes on the article talk page with reliable sources. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:53, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Odd Image Discoloration
File:Sally_Jewell_official_portrait.jpg, File:Newman%27s_Own_Logo_2013.jpg, and some other images have an odd discoloration. 173.73.64.153 (talk) 03:59, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Newman%27s_Own_Logo_2013.jpg appears to be colored the same as http://www.newmansown.com/wp-content/themes/newman/css/img/header-bg.png on the Newman's Own website. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Not to me. The image is showing up in Negative colors in the first link and looks normal in the second link.  RudolfRed (talk) 05:56, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

contributed - forgot refs - would like to correct
I contributed myself "My Name" to "Eustis FL" and neglected to include CUNY retirees as a reference and verification - I'm 82 years old and have finally given up accessing FAQ's, info, instructions and Help. I would like to correct the entry and have it accepted - help?

Thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BartJones (talk • contribs) 05:18, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry but unless there is an article here about you, you shouldn't be added to a list of notable residents. That's the way those lists of notable residents work.  When we say "notable", what is meant is people who are notable enough to warrant an article.  Dismas |(talk) 07:12, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Agree with Dismas, thou we all are famous in our own minds you may wish to read Notability instead of the "FAQ's, info, instructions and Help" you've mentioned. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a residence listing, social media site or community networking rolodex.  Notability would require WP:RELIABLESOURCES, basically if I see you on TV, hear about you on radio talkshows and read about you in the newspaper then adding your entry to "Notable residents" would be something to explore.  However WP:COI or Conflict of Interest would rule out someone such as yourself actually making the addition yourself, one or a team of wikipedians would actually discuss that and do it for you, of course after the Oprah interview and the TMZ scoop on you. :-)   Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way   08:01, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Change image
Hi Im New to this, And I am an Instructor Of Rhee Taekwondo, Under Master Chong Chul Rhee. He asked me to change the image of his wikipedia article as he disliked the image, I tried to change it to one he approved of and it didnt work can someone help me. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatRTKD (talk • contribs) 06:37, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't see where you've uploaded an image. You must first upload the image (see WP:UPLOAD) and then it can be used in articles.  Though, judging from the description you gave to the image you were trying to add, it would likely not be acceptable.  Magazine covers can only be used if the magazine itself is discussed.  And they cannot be used simply to illustrate the person on the cover for that person's article.  If you have a photo that you own the rights to, you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons so that it can be used on all the different language versions of Wikipedia.  (just uploading to the English version means that the file can only be used here and not on, for example, the German Wikipedia)  Dismas |(talk) 07:07, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I see you uploaded File:Master Rhee Chong Chul in Action.jpg at Wikimedia Commons. You claimed it was your own work and you are the copyright holder. Did you take the original photo and hold copyright on it? If all you did was scan a magazine cover then it certainly doesn't give you copyright. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:49, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It came from http://rheeact.com.au/learn-about-rhee/master-rhee If the website holds the copyright they may be able to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:OTRS The original photographer is probably the copyright holder.--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:03, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Requirement for Diploma People freshers
Hai,

Please write few things who are from a diploma back ground. Refer any fresher Dip(Mech) or BE,B.Tech(Mech) for MNC. For contacts catch me on the same port. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sashikopparam (talk • contribs) 06:41, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello there, you are at the general helpdesk of Wikipedia what you may be asking would be answered better at Reference desk/Humanities.
 * Note I am having a very hard time understanding your exact question. I suggest you write out any abbreviations or acronyms such as BE, B.Tech and MNC which I don't have any idea what your speaking of.  Also please go into detail on exactly what you need answered, is it how to get a diploma? What qualifications you need to apply? How one applies? Thank you and again Reference Desk Humanities is the better place for this question.  Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way   07:55, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Removing references
The Dutch Wikipedia community has a weak policy on citing sources and users have reached consensus that only controversial facts need source references. User:Dqfn13 has previously removed references from an article I've edited on the Dutch Wikipedia. He has now started removing references from the same article on the English Wikipedia. I would like to receive help with this issue. – Editør (talk) 06:53, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi there, without investigating this at all first you should warn this editor at least twice but if he/she continues you may wish to leave notice at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or Administrator intervention against vandalism.   Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way   07:50, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, this is no vandalism, this is removing citation that are not needed. WP:VERIFY states: Attribute all quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged to a reliable, published source using an inline citation. (bold by me) I don't think anybody will chalenge who's the director of a museum, and nobody will chalenge the location of that same museum, will they? I have not removed any other refferences as I know the English Wiki is more strickt with citations.
 * Now, I am chalenging the source itself, as the source about the location is very reliable... but it is the contact page of the museum website... very reliable but it also smells like promoting the museum. This very same problem occured on the Dutch language Wiki. Dqfn13 (talk) 09:00, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Dqfn13, first if you wish to challenge a source it's best to discuss it first on the articles Talk page, not just delete the references from the article. Such a thing can be seen as acting without WP:AGF and yes can be viewed by many as vandalism.  Second, it is encouraged a lot to add citations for such things as "director" etc. since those items have and will continue to be challenged for citations on Wikipedia, not to mention the sideways WP:BLP concerns it raises.  As you should discuss on the article's talk page or even ask for a WP:3O you will find that using a source or citation that seems promotional when it is published by the subject of the article is not by itself forbidden and in many instances encouraged when balanced with other citations.  Either way many editors will get the wrong idea about your intentions if you start deleting parts of articles without any notice on the talk page, most especially references or citations for those articles.  Please attempt to work this out on the talk page or bring in a WP:3O, I wish both of you luck.  Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way   09:24, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, forget it... I'm not going to do it all over again, on the Dutch talkpage Editor was challenged by three other editors (besides me) and now he/she does it all again on the English Wiki. I'm not doing it all over. I've added my reasons both times in the summary, that should be enough. Editor acts like the article is his/hers, from this day on I don't care about it anymore. This source fot the adress of the museum... that's the contactpage... so instead of just giving the adress you can send an e-mail. That was one fo the reasons why it was removed from the Dutch article. I've not removed other sources for the theft even though they were challenged at the Dutch talk page... I've only removed refs I thought (and stil think) were obselete. Clearly Editor didn't listen to the others as he/she does exactly the same here. Be my guest, I won't bother you anymore, the article is all yours, maybe add some more refs so every single sentence has its source. Because that happend at the Dutch page too. Dqfn13 (talk) 09:54, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You say "maybe add some more refs so every single sentence has its source" as if that is a bad thing. But here at the English Wikipedia, you are 100% incorrect - we want every sentence to have a cited source. And when you cite WP:V: "Attribute all quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged to a reliable, published source using an inline citation," you're misreading it. That statement specifies the minimum necessary sourcing of information, not the maximum. Please don't confuse the rules on two different Wikipedias - if the Dutch Wikipedia wants minimal citations, fine, but here at the English Wikipedia, if you remove a good source for a non-controversial statement, that is wrong - on any article in the English Wikipedia. (I have no idea what an "obsolete" reference is - either the reference still provides support for the text in the article - so we want to keep it - or it does not - so we want to remove it. But that has nothing to do with whether the text that is supported is controversial or not .) -- John Broughton  (♫♫) 16:59, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe User:John Broughton explains it well. Concerning this issue, the English Wikipedia differs from the Dutch Wikipedia, as I have concluded on the Dutch talk page . – Editør (talk) 21:08, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The Dutch Wiki does ask for citations in case something is (likely to be) challenged, and an adres of a museum is NOT likely to be challenged. But fine, I'll back off. End of discussion. This extreme referencing makes articles hard to read because in the worst cases there are a dozen of numbers instead of text... ever thought about that? No need to answer by the way, I'm not likely to come back soon, I have my own project at nl.wiki. Dqfn13 (talk) 22:35, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Dqfn13, there is a way to "bundle" references, see Pittsburgh for example.  Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way  12:31, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Should brief members of a band/group still be considered as 'former members'?
Hi, guys. I just want to ask about Wikipedia's standards when it comes to articles about bands/members. So let's say two original members left and then the talent agency announces that two new members are added. Later on when the group gears up for a comeback single, those 'two' replacements are no longer there and have been replaced by three newer ones. So are the two previous replacements still worth being considered as 'former members?. They never really released any music with the group hence they didn't debut with them. Please help me understand.Masterpeace3 (talk) 08:06, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Is this concerning a currently live wikipedia article? If so discussing this on that band's article's talk page or the Wikiproject for bands or that genre of music might find you editors familiar with the ins and outs of band member listing consensus.  If this band doesn't have a wikipedia article as yet we might have to go back a bit and understand if notability or WP:RELIABLESOURCES have been met.  I understand your asking it as a policy question but the specific band would help, and thou I'm no expert on the matter the situation you describe I wouldn't think those members that released no music should be listed just as a matter of WP:COMMONSENSE a pillar above policies. <sup style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"> Market St.⧏ <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"> ⧐ Diamond Way   08:16, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm talking about this article here, F-ve Dolls. The members in question are Shannon & JiHyun but thanks for the reply.Masterpeace3 (talk) 11:36, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I suggest posting at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music, since you've got a very specialized question. I also note that this WikiProject has a manual of style, which addresses very specialized points. It looks like this question isn't covered (thought I only scanned it quickly); if not, perhaps the WikiProject would want to expand the manual of style page to include this issue. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 16:43, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Do we have an impersonation warning template?
User:81.178.244.213 just posted a warning on another editor's talk page and attempted to sign as Jimmy Wales. It wasn't a very convincing effort but do we have a warning template for attempting to impersonate another person for deception? Thanks ツ Jenova   20  (email) 08:17, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Technically speaking isn't the reason Sock Puppetry is so wrong is because an editor is pretending to be someone they are not? I understand that it also has the whole IP component but the effect of what you are saying is the same, the impression is given that the edit is by an uninvolved 3rd party when in fact it is not. <sup style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"> Market St.⧏ <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"> ⧐ Diamond Way   08:27, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * And I'm sure you've already done the obligatory noticeboard postings Jenova20? :-) <sup style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"> Market St.⧏ <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"> ⧐ Diamond Way   08:28, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I haven't posted on any noticeboard other than here since i wasn't sure how to handle this. Thanks ツ Jenova   20  (email) 08:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Checking out the user ID and the contributions it seems to be just a random thing for now, it may die out on its own. If this was me I wouldn't feed the trolls but use your best judgment on elevating it with either a message back to the IP or a noticeboard alert.  Too often a few individuals get their jollies by counting how many wikipedians were involved in their banishment so ignoring them for a day might actually work much better, but again depends exactly what he/she is going to do next. <sup style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"> Market St.⧏ <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"> ⧐ Diamond Way   08:36, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * As suggested above, leaving it for a while may be the best solution; if it continues, however, it is in contravention of Wikipedia's signature guidelines. Per WP:SIGFORGE, "Never use another editor's signature. Impersonating another editor by using his or her username or signature is forbidden. Altering the markup code of your signature to make it look substantially like another user's signature may also be considered a form of impersonation. Editing the code of your signature to link it to another editor's user page is not permitted." I hope this'll help you if you need to take it further. drewmunn talk 08:39, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I think i'll leave it. It's not worth the aggro this morning of learning which noticeboards to go to just for a bad impersonation. Thanks ツ Jenova   20  (email) 08:44, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Add Logo to Company Page
Hi Team,

I would like to upload logo and display it on company page. Kindly help.

Page under review: Market Simplified www.marketsimplified.com

Regards, Market GoMobile — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marketgomobile (talk • contribs) 09:00, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I fixed the title for you, also please remember to end with ~ so we can all see who you are (your signature). For the answer to your question you might find Uploading images most useful.  Once the image is at Wikipedia or Commons the coding is pretty simple on the actual article, just be sure it meets fair use by checking at Non-free content.  Good luck and happy editing. <sup style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"> Market St.⧏ <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"> ⧐ Diamond Way   09:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I see your article is currently at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Market Simplified. I guess the logo you want to add is http://www.marketsimplified.com/images/msf_logo.png. Please note that this logo might be sufficiently complex for copyright protection (if it is, then this is mainly because of the reflection effect and the small triangle, otherwise this logo would be in the public domain because logos consisting only of letters and typefaces are not normally eligible for copyright protection). If it is eligible for copyright protection, then it can be uploaded to Wikipedia only as non-free content, and such content is only allowed in the article when it is live on Wikipedia (ie in the mainspace / article space). --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  12:43, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

gallery issues
working on tattoo removal, added pics, need quick help with 2 specific things

1. how do i re-size gallery images (bigger) -- found the commands for gallery-sizing, still need to fix the filename conflict! Lx 121 (talk) 10:56, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

2. how do i get wikipedia to use this pic http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Postop.jpg INSTEAD OF this pic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Postop.jpg

pls reply asap, i'm "live" & would like to get this completed

Lx 121 (talk) 10:13, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * It's not possible to display a Commons image when there is a local image with the same name. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:03, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * What PrimeHunter said. One of the pics will have to renamed. I suggest the Commons pic since the EN pic goes better with the name of "postop". Dismas |(talk) 11:06, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * resolved, but not that easily; commons is under the impression that their filenames ALWAYS have precedence & it is the responsibility of other projects to rename conflicting files...


 * Lx 121 (talk) 15:13, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Commons is right in this case. Renaming a Commons file causes the image to "break" on every page in every Wikipedia that uses it - for popular images that can be hundreds of pages - most in languages that the person doing the change doesn't understand. A local file affects only the local Wikipedia so propagating the necessary changes is much easier. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:01, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Radio Voice of Russia
Hello! My name is Christina Silinieks, PR-manager of radio "Voice of Russia". On the pages of our language radio in the encyclopedia "Wikipedia" is available outdated information about the company, as well as on broadcast frequencies. We would like to fix this, how can we do this without having to make a "conflict of interest?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siliniek (talk • contribs) 11:18, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Begin a discussion at the article Talk page at the bottom of the page. Specify what material you think the article should include. Bear in mind Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not the internet. Topics such as the stations history are encyclopedic. Advertising or how-to instruction is not. - LuckyLouie (talk) 11:57, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Renaming article
Hi, it's been suggested that 2013 Mitake, Yamaguchi spree killings be renamed. But what could be an option, I don't knnow English perfectly. Should we already name Kozei Homi? (the alleged perpetrator) in the article's title? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Japanesehelper (talk • contribs) 12:29, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Per WP:NAMINGCRITERIA I would suggest to rename the article to Yamaguchi arson and murder (that's what The Japan Daily Press article calls it in the title). --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  12:57, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Per WP:BLP, we should avoid using the individual's name as he is only a suspect at this point.--ukexpat (talk) 13:11, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I edited the article and removed the name. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  13:33, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Hardware used by voicemail producers
Hi I would like to ask which hardwares do Voicemail producers use — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.186.31.82 (talk) 12:39, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid you have come to the wrong place to ask this. This is the page for help in editing Wikipedia. If the article voicemail doesn't help, I suggest you post your question at the reference desk. --ColinFine (talk) 13:51, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Bubbo Jones- Bubbojones (name) availability for an account
I wanna know if the "Bubbo Jones," you have with an "already exsisting" account connected here at wiki to my email address? I've been trying to create and write my wiki, and others, however with my name being "bubbojones" "Bubbo Jones" "Bubbo J" and I may have initially tried to set something up over the last three years past, and now I can't create it, but when I hit ur search? It says that I can create this account, but it won't let me. What part of the game is this? (?) I don't wanna know who does have the account if it isn't me, just if it's connected to mines or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by I'm bubbojones (talk • contribs) 13:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Compare the pages User:I'm bubbojones and User:Bubbo Jones. You can see that yours has an "email this user" link in the toolbox bottom left.  The other page doesn't.  That means that no email address is attached to that account.  As that account has never made any edits, you may be able to take it over.  See WP:Usurp.  Rojomoke (talk) 14:25, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Does it strictly mean that no email address is attached to the account, or might it merely be that the "Enable email from other users" option hasn't been enabled in the user's preferences? Either way, you are right that there's a good chance of usurping as no edits have been made. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * It might merely mean that "Enable email from other users" hasn't been enabled, but in this case there really is no email address attached. The difference can be seen at Special:EmailUser/Bubbo Jones which says "" If the user had stored an email address without enabling email from other users then it would have said "" PrimeHunter (talk) 15:50, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I was unaware of that distinction.  Rojomoke (talk) 16:54, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * However, if by "I've been trying to create and write my wiki", you mean that you are trying to create a Wikipedia article about yourself, then please read WP:AUTO before you go any further, in order to understand why this would be a very bad idea. --ColinFine (talk) 18:54, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Paintings I own
My name is Lorenzo Fernandez my address is I aquire some painting on swapmeets and I think I have some that may worth somenthing and need help with an appraisal. I tried to go to Pawn Stars here in Las Vegas but werent able to help me out and since I have some financial problems and need to kknow if I have something that is valuable need your help. Please let me know how to do to send you some of the pictures of my paintings so you know what I have in my hands.

Sincerely

Lorenzo Fernandez — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.234.202.36 (talk) 17:20, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:49, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * (I often wonder where people think they are when they leave these weird queries here, and whether or not they ever come back for an answer.) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:49, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Seconded. I think the help desk is not that easily found via Google, so I guess they must actively be searching on Wikipedia. But why so many think their questions might be answered here is beyond me as well, especially if the request is explicitly targeted at some specific person, company etc. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  20:59, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Deleted Page for Richard Helm
I recently purchased the book described below:

Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software is a software engineering book describing recurring solutions to common problems in software design. The book's authors are Erich Gamma, Richard Helm, Ralph Johnson and John Vlissides with a foreword by Grady Booch. The authors are often referred to as the Gang of Four, GoF,[1] or Go4.

There is a Wikipedia page for each of the authors, known as the Gang of Four, but for some reason the page for Richard Helm has been deleted. It seems odd that the one author's page would be deleted. 216.64.170.61 (talk) 17:35, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * The article was deleted per this discussion: Articles for deletion/Richard Helm.--ukexpat (talk) 18:24, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Many times here at Wikipedia, members of a group that is notable are not given an independent article because that person -by themselves- is not notable enough. Dismas |(talk) 20:35, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

DENTAL SOFTWARE
I attempted to add our software as a new entry in the list of software shown but I think I messed up the excel style table for the others. Can someone please correct this. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MSHAINBERG (talk • contribs) 17:49, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Your edits have been reversed, both to repair the damage and because it seems fairly clear ("attempted to add our software") that you have a conflict of interest in trying to add this software to that article. I have left some advice on your talk page about how to deal with a situation of conflict of interest. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:10, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

American Media Institute
I wonder why it has been deleted and how I can restore the page and make some edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.48.29.243 (talk) 19:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * A shameless advertisement for the American Media Institute, Richard Miniter and Nathaniel Moffat was deleted, since we don't permit promotion and marketing here. There was nothing worth salvaging. If you feel the Institute is notable enough to justify an encyclopedia article about it (as opposed to being a mere paragraph in the Miniter article), you should create one from scratch, using only reliable sources and maintaining a neutral point-of-view towards the subject. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;  Talk  20:41, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Copied and Pasted Error
I wrote a bio about a chef and it's on that chef's website. I'm trying to create a wikipedia page about that chef and it's saying that I copied and pasted. It's MY work that it's finding on the other website. How do I get past this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cpellegrino1 (talk • contribs) 20:05, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * When something is posted to a web site, it is assumed that there is a copyright on that work which does not allow for the information to simply be copied and pasted into another site. If there is a copyright notice on the page that says that the text is under public domain or some other such free license, then we can use it.  That said, we generally prefer things to be written differently because text on web sites is often much too promotional in tone to be encyclopedic.  See Neutral point of view for more on that.  Dismas |(talk) 20:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I think there's a clear conflict of interest going on here based on the user's talk page. Cpellegrino1, you are once again strongly discouraged from trying to write an article about yourself. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:58, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Need help!
Dear HelpDESK,

I would like to add to rows into the table at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height?veaction=edit. I read some instructions but I still have a problem to save the page.

I need to add two more countries (Montenegro and Serbia) but I don't know how to do it. I tried with these codes but it doesn't work:

x.add_row(["Montenegro",1.8321 m (6 ft 0 in), 1.6837 m (5 ft 6 in), 1.09, 18-37, N/A, "Measured", 2011, http://www.drustvo-antropologov.si/AN/PDF/2012_2/Anthropological_Notebooks_XVIII_2_Bjelica.pdf])

x.add_row(["Serbia", 1.8196 m (5 ft 12 in), 1.6682 m (5 ft 6 in), 1.09, 18-30, N/A, "Measured", 2012, http://www.scielo.cl/pdf/ijmorphol/v31n1/art43.pdf])

Look forward to hearing from you soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TemplarMNE (talk • contribs) 20:11, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I can see you are editing articles by clicking the "edit" link. That makes it hard to see some things. If you click the "edit source" link instead (it appears when you hover over "edit" links at sections) then you will only see  where the big table is displayed. That means the displayed text comes from Template:Average height around the world. You can try to edit that by carefully copying the format of the existing entries, but that type of editing can be tricky. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:23, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * You might try posting your information at Template talk:Average height around the world, and asking another editor to use that information to update the template, rather than trying to edit the template yourself, directly. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:24, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Request for help in amending info in picture panel (transclusion)
I wish to revise some info on Ray Charles arising from contact with the authors of a new book, which includes new research on RC's early life

My question concerns the upper right section, beneath the picture and headed 'Background information'

I note re transclusion but it seems complicated.

1. Re the para 'Early life: 1930–45' where it mentions Greenville, Florida, I believe that if I amend that, then GF will be replaced in the box I refer to, with my new location.

Is that correct please?

2. Re Birth name which is the first item under 'Background information'. This is not linked, so where do I go to edit the birth name?

I will cite the info source + page nos. in the new book + they have census illustrations

Hope you can assist. I am an avid Wiki-ist and intend to get more involved with entries and to canvass knowledgeable friends to do the same. Thanks in anticipation

Colinkilgour (talk) 20:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * The info box that you mention can be edited by clicking on the "Edit" or "Edit Source" links at the very top of the article. The information is not pulled automatically from the body text of the article.  Dismas |(talk) 20:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * (e/c) Hi Colinkilgour! It's great that you say you're going to be citing reliable sources for your edits (if you hadn't of mentioned that I probably would have broached that topic before going further). My suggestion is to click on "edit source" at the very top of the article, i.e., do no click "Edit" and do not click on the links for editing that are included above each section. This will allow you to access the entire article at once, make changes in the sections and simultaneously make changes to the 'infobox' (the box at the top right that contains his photograph). Note that your post implied to me that you thought if you changed information in one place, it would automatically change information in another. That is not the case; each tidbit of information must be changed independently; it is not transcluded information in, for example, a template that appears in both places. The "Edit" button accesses the brand new Visual Editor, but is is very new and buggy right now. "Edit source" accesses wikitext editing, which is how we all edited from 2001 until the beginning of this month. You might try first taking a tour through the Tutorial before moving further, as I think you will learn a lot of helpful things. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:49, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

I am very sorry
Hello I have clumsily placed Aaron Rules on Extreme Points of Antarctica and I am unable to get it off. I saved the edit, thinking I will be able to delete it but now I can't delete it. If you guys could get it off as soon as you can, because I have a science class today and don't want to get in trouble with my teacher. I have learnt my lesson so can you delete it. 1ajp1 (talk) 21:11, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The edit was undone automatically about four seconds after you saved it; however, there was some kind of server hiccup and your text was still shown. I have "purged" the page and your text is gone now. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:21, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The edit was undone automatically about four seconds after you saved it; however, there was some kind of server hiccup and your text was still shown. I have "purged" the page and your text is gone now. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:21, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Cannot find created page -Yaotzin Meza
Cannot find article for Yaotzin Meza to make corections. please help..thanks > THX, FM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fmez10 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Here? Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Yaotzin Meza Britmax (talk) 21:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

You have new messages! but no message
While deleting a pile of AFC pages under G13, I started getting a new-talkpage-messages alert, but my talk page hasn't gotten any edits in five days. Nevertheless, the message recurs when I visit new pages, even though I've already gone to my talk page. What's going on? The only way I can imagine this happening is if someone edited my talk page, and before I saw it, an oversighter came along and removed it completely, but I can imagine that such a thing would be a million-to-one chance. Nyttend (talk) 21:27, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I came here just now with this same issue wondering if someone had already inquired about it. Didn't know if it was just me or not.  Guess it's not.  Dismas |(talk) 21:29, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh! I see there's already a conversation about it at VPT. Dismas |(talk) 21:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi I could use you guy's help please
My name is Jeff Johnson and I am / was the original bassist for American band Jason and the Scorchers. I left the band in 1995 and have continued to pursue a career in music as well as cinematography etc....I have a release documented on IMDB and two more are in the process of being added. I would like to update my wiki standings by adding a page in my personal name to continue documenting my work etc.....If you guys could give me some simple instruction on how to go about this it would be much appreciated. I understand most lite web functions / design etc...

Thank you and I hope all is well Jeff Johnson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.24.113.41 (talk) 22:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:AUTO as to why we would strongly prefer you not add an autobiographical article about yourself. Also, please take a look at WP:BIO for the criteria for "notability" - if a person is not "notable", as defined in that guideline, then an article about that person is just going to get deleted, sooner or later (typically sooner; we delete more than 1000 articles per day here). -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:20, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Message alert
Hey I have a "Talk: You have new messages" alert up in my whatever you call it at the top of the page. However, my talk page, according to the history, hasn't been edited in three years. Anyone know what's up with that? Someoneinmyheadbutit&#39;snotme (talk) 22:44, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * See WP:VPT.&#32;~HueSatLum 22:48, 30 July 2013 (UTC)