Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 March 25

= March 25 =

Statue of Queen Victoria
I just posted a statue at List of statues of Queen Victoria for Sri Lanka, in Colombe, but it showed up in Africa. I have to leave 4 minutes ago. Can someone either fix it or remove it? Einar ak Carptrash (talk) 00:59, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I have closed the table and added the sculptor. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:23, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Added a pic from flickr and a reference. Hope I got the right statue. Chamal T •C 02:56, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Copyvio
I found some blatant copyvio, and don't know what to do about it (except report it here):
 * Compare this edit: → to this page in book:  — (Both, at: Historical Background)
 * Note, there are several similar edits at this editor's contributions.
 * ~Regards,  74.60.29.141 (talk) 02:22, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Please report it to Copyright problems-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  11:44, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I glanced at the edit, and did not see the overlap with the book, although I was not able to see the page that came up, so the Google snippet may just not be available for me. If there are five or fewer examples, please report each to Copyright problems. If there are more than five examples of copyvios, please report in bulk to Contributor copyright investigations.-- SPhilbrick  (Talk)  11:51, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I started an "investigation", but don't have the time or patience to jump thru the hoops, and have not posted; however, it is unambiguous that the editor has many such contributions (I checked the 1st 3, with 3/3 positive; following the "rule of three", I believe this is a trend.)
 * Multiple large blocks of text copied verbatim from copyrighted book(s) – "© Mohammad Saed Abdul Rahman 2009; All rights reserved."
 * from
 * from
 * (et cetera, see:Special:Contributions/Ali_Assad)
 * ~Attention appreciated, ~IP:74.60.29.141 (talk) 17:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * ~Attention appreciated, ~IP:74.60.29.141 (talk) 17:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect information
This page has incorrect information. "Herman Norman Orenstein (* 1945[1] in Toronto[2]) ist ein kanadischer Komponist." is incorrect. As I do not understand German, I cannot correct. Correct information would be "Norman Orenstein (Toronto).

Can you please help by deleting "Herman" and "1945"?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.116.242.24 (talk) 02:54, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Which page are you refferring to, please? Are you looking for Norman Orenstein?  RudolfRed (talk) 03:05, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * They probably mean the German article. I don't do German well either.--Canoe1967 (talk) 04:06, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Automatic logging in to Wikimedia's projects
After successful logging in to Wikipedia the Login successful page says:
 * 'Logging you in to Wikimedia's other projects'

and it displays a row of icons of those projects, with Commons and Wikidata among them. However when I switch to one of those projects it appears I'm not logged in there. How can I achieve a real single login? Or how can I get rid of that false message? --CiaPan (talk) 06:28, 25 March 2013 (UTC) Similar question was asked before – Help_desk/Archives/2008 August 31 – but got no reply.)
 * One possible reason is that your browser can't store the cookies for the other sites. I don't allow my browser to store cookies from random sites, and have an explicit whitelist of allowed sites. So if I jump from here to, say, the Chinese Wikipedia, I won't be logged in when I get there. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:01, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Bingo! That's it, I've added wikidata, commons and wikipedia domains to the white list and it works now. Thak you. --CiaPan (talk) 19:31, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Regarding review of my article on Cullen Investments
Hi,

Could you please confirm the estimated time period required for the approval of the uploaded article (Cullen Investments) which is in the review que for weeks (article was submitted for review on 11 March, 2013).

Your earliest response will be much appreciated

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ingoddess2805 (talk • contribs) 06:31, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The article has not been submitted for review, and is currently just sitting there waiting for you to finish creating it. You need to click on the link in the box at the top to submit it.  Rojomoke (talk) 07:45, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The article has a 'Not submitted' tag at the top, and four 'Review waiting' tags at the bottom. I doubt that this can be right. Maproom (talk) 07:58, 25 March 2013 (UTC) Moreover it is on the talk page of a blank article page. Maproom (talk) 08:04, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The draft has been in the queue since 8 March. It's common for a draft to have more than one "submission" box; I thought a bot cleaned those up, but apparently not. And "Articles for creation" drafts do live in the "Wikipedia talk" namespace, because unregistered editors only have the software permission to create talk pages.


 * I don't think the draft has much chance of being accepted in its current form. Reference 1 looks like an entry in a business directory, references 2 and 6 are to the company's own website, and references 3, 4 and 5 do not mention Cullen Investments by name. A Wikipedia article needs to show "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject", and I don't see that here. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:34, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I have cleaned up the AFC templates to avoid confusion.--ukexpat (talk) 15:47, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:There is no deadline. --ColinFine (talk) 16:42, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Oz Pressler
This article is repeatedly being created - and is a complete hoax. I keep tagging it and it keeps getting deleted. Is there any way to protect it or stop it from being recreated? Gbawden (talk) 06:38, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * See WP:SALT for the concept for keeping it from being recreated. Not sure how to propose it though.Naraht (talk) 07:43, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You can ask for "create protection" at WP:RFPP -- John of Reading (talk) 07:53, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Salted, page creator and sockpuppet both blocked. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  08:07, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Tool to find edit history intersection
Is there a history tool to use to remind yourself of what pages your edits and another Wikipedian have intersected on including conversations between the two of you on a talk page? Alatari (talk) 07:46, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * From Tools:


 * Intersect Contribs – compares the edits of two editors in any Wikimedia Foundation wiki to see which articles overlap
 * Wikistalk – similar to Intersect Contribs, allows comparisons between more than two users and namespace selection, works only on the English Wikipedia
 * Editor Interaction Analyzer, shows the common pages that two editors have both edited, sorted by minimum time between edits by both users. Only works on the English Wikipedia.
 * -- John of Reading (talk) 07:57, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Thankyou! Alatari (talk) 08:39, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I have a follow up question. Is there a way to quickly pinpoint the exact edit you made over a several year time span in a heavily edited talk page or article especially one that has 30 or 50 archive pages built up? Alatari (talk) 09:26, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * One way is to search for your user name in the archives, either by using the archive search box if there is one, or Special:PrefixIndex if not. Alternatively, this tool could help. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:20, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Thankyou again. Alatari (talk) 16:15, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Copyright question
Dear editors: I came across this page Wearable Cardioverter Defibrillator which has substantial content, about half, taken from the web site http://lifevest.zoll.com/news/fact-sheet.asp  There are subtle differences here and there, for example taking out the product name and replacing it with  generic name. How exact does text have to be to be a copyright violation? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 11:06, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It does not have to be an exact match. In cases where the entire article, or virtually the entire article is the same, and the source is not licensed, you can add a CSD G12, and an admin will delete, if appropriate.


 * In other cases, report to Copyright problems, and someone will eventually review it (There is a backlog). For confirmation that the words do not have to be an exact match, see Close paraphrasing-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  11:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Remove unrelated image from a Wikipedia page
Hi, I've been searching for how to remove an image, namely, Knee_highs.JPG from the Knee Highs page, since this is an image of knee high socks, not knee highs. I've been looking for how to do this for ~30 minutes with no luck. I'm not looking to delete it from the Commons, just disconnect it from the Knee Highs page. Any help would be appreciated, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.8.252 (talk) 13:10, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * You can click the "Edit" tab at top of Knee highs and remove the image code in the first line. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:02, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * What is the difference between a "knee high" and a "knee high sock"? The article does not indicate any. Maproom (talk) 14:23, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * There is a noun missing - Knee high . Roger (talk) 18:00, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

YouTube referencing overkill
Charles E. Moody

Don't know what to make of this, the first thing that struck me was the over-reffing, scrolling down there are a ton of YT videos being used as refs. In fact, someone playing a recorded original version of one of Moody's songs, apparently, so the video is not copyright violating I guess, what about the sound recordings? And is this necessary or desirable for the article? Cheers!  Captain Screebo Parley! 14:12, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:YOUTUBE is the relevant bit of the external links policy, but WP:VIDEOREF might be of more use if you get around to evaluating their use as references in the article. Astronaut (talk) 20:00, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Giving Recognition to Other Writers
Hi Folks: I did some editing over on my Linked-In page and included the articles and URL-s that I am editing. Then I realized that its not fair to not give proper recognition to other editors and the person who originated the article. Can someone give me some guidance about how most folks approach this matter? I'm sure that people before me put a lot of work into these articles in starting them up and I don't want to represent what I am doing as though all this hard work has been mine alone. Thoughts?? Best Wishes.--Bruce W Sims (talk) 14:25, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I took a look at your LinkedIn page. I have no idea how others who list Wikipedia contributions there do it, but how about placing in the  section, after your name, something like "and other Wikipedia contributors"?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:51, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Source use
How do I use a source more than once without adding it to the bibliography? Jaybird7of9 (talk) 14:31, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Referencing for beginners may help you. Sarahj2107 (talk) 14:41, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Mirakill
i was trying to set up Mirakill page and it was deleted during my posting my sites and references! HELP!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eric Bruno (talk • contribs) 15:34, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * We don't create articles by just sticking "under construction" in an otherwise empty article. If you want to work on a draft at your own pace, please use a user sub-page to do so - see WP:User subpage.--ukexpat (talk) 15:52, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Coding expert needed
I need someone with coding knowledge to tweak Template:CBB Seasons Cat Header. You see, it's placed at the very top of each yearly subcategory of Category:College men's basketball seasons in the United States, but depending on which season category it's in, the official name of that college basketball season might be different. I need that template to reflect the following information: Can someone please make this template reflect that when it's placed on their season subcategories? Thanks! Jrcla2 (talk) 15:39, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * 1895–96 through 1905–06: "(year) collegiate men's basketball season in the United States"
 * 1906–07 through 1909–10: "(year) IAAUS men's basketball season"
 * 1910–11 through 1955–56: "(year) NCAA men's basketball season"
 * 1956–57 through 1972–73: "(year) NCAA University Division men's basketball season"
 * 1973–74 through present: "(year) NCAA Division I men's basketball season"


 * Working on it. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:23, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It appears the main problem was a missing " in the United States" at the end of category names for start year <= 1905. I fixed this and a couple of other issues. Are there remaining issues? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:23, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I think that fixed everything. Thanks so much for the help! Jrcla2 (talk) 17:41, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

joining a police force
What are required to join a polce force? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.127.42 (talk) 15:55, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--ukexpat (talk) 15:58, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Why does the watchlist fail?
Another user replied to me on their talk page and even though they are on my watchlist and I sorted the list specifically by user talk page items it will not show up. The only reason I found out he responded is because in my watchlist some other editor added a new comment to his talk page. This kind of error was happening years ago and it's not fixed? I fuddled about with all the settings and don't see what I can do to resolve this on my end. Alatari (talk) 16:33, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I found the answer in the Village Pump archives. It is a 5 year old bug relating to how hiding bots from the watchlist works.  See a discussion here:  Alatari (talk) 17:38, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Wrong infobox
Laurel and Hardy has a TV show infobox which is incorrectly italicizing the article name. Can anyone suggest a different infobox or any other solution? Thanks! Spicemix (talk) 17:13, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You can add the parameter  to the infobox.  Chamal T •C 17:17, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * this fixed page name, but not infobox title  —74.60.29.141 (talk) 22:16, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I looked at Penn and Teller and saw that it uses Infobox person. —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 00:57, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for these great replies! Spicemix (talk) 13:57, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

commercial movie on first aviators (possibly Gustav Whitehead) Movie produced in the 1930's or 40's
Help can anyone verify that a commercial movie was made in the 1930's or 40's on the first manned flight which occurred before the Wright brothers achievements.

When I was a kid 13 or 14 years old circia 1958, I vaguely recall such a film on late nite TV. I sear the aviators name was Montgmery.

Is my memory faulty or ssomehwt on target?--173.62.202.254 (talk) 18:45, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello. Off the top of my head, I wonder if by your memory of "Montgmery", whatever film this was might have been about the Montgolfier brothers. Anyway, this is the wrong forum for your question. As announced at the top of the page and in the notice above the edit window, this help desk is specifically geared toward assistance with using/editing/navigating Wikipedia and is not for general knowledge questions. However, we do have a forum for knowledge questions of all stripes: the reference desk. Please try there.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:48, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Inappropriate Subjective Editing
Please check out the Hawkesbury, Ontario page. Because of nasty comments about editing, disrespectful comments about the subject, and unnecessary four-letter words, the "editor" should be banished to spend an eternity in No-Access Hell!!!

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by WolfCreekWoman (talk • contribs) 19:18, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks like a simple case of vandalism. I've reverted it just now.  Thank you for bring it to our attention, though you could have fixed it yourself.  Astronaut (talk) 19:48, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Bot warnings
Recently, when my browser loads Wikipedia, my ISP (Comcast) pops up a big red warning that I may have a bot runing on my computer, and that bots and malicious software can damage my computer. What to do? Strangesad (talk) 19:31, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Strangesad. You might try asking this at the computing section of the reference desk. Anyway, I didn't read through all of it, but you might get some ideas from this thread at forums.comcast.com.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:57, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Printing problem at Seven Virtues
Folks, a user has reported to OTRS a printing problem with the above article:

''When printing a copy of pages 2-3-4 and 5 of the main subject "seven virtues" they are mostly blank or have just a few lines at the top. A fix would help me greatly to insure that there is no missing information.''

I haven't had time to check it for myself. Would someone please take a look and see if they can figure out what the problem may be? Thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 20:11, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I just attempted and had no problems so maybe it's on the user's end of things. If they're having problems printing directly, maybe advise them to try clicking on "Printable version" instead (you can provide this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seven_virtues&printable=yes )--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:29, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Doh! Why didn't I think of that? --ukexpat (talk) 00:25, 26 March 2013 (UTC) (skulks back into the corner)
 * Maybe it was a maladaptive brain activity change?;-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:03, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh almost certainly...--ukexpat (talk) 13:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * That is really only useful for very old browsers. See Help:Printable. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 02:20, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

wikicode and wikigames
We need a wikicode(a lot of free code) and a wikigames(open-source games).--EatIcecream2 (talk) 20:16, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

66.108.37.60 (talk) 20:37, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The first has possibilities. The second is highly unlikely IMO. Proposals for new Wikimedia projects are made at Meta-Wiki, the global community site for the Wikimedia Foundation. See specifically Proposals for new projects. However, Wikicode is already suggested. Please see WikiCode. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:39, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Videogames can be educational, so it fits the foundation's goals. --NaBUru38 (talk) 22:01, 25 March 2013 (UTC)