Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 March 26

= March 26 =

not sure how to correct citation error
It looks fine to me. I have a link inside of the tags and have tried deleting and re-pasting, I can guess that it's buggy but I'm also a new wiki contributor. Can you check this out (scroll and what I did is in red) and let me know how I can fix it? Thank you. Technology integration — Preceding unsigned comment added by StephanieThoma (talk • contribs) 00:41, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I've put NOWIKI tags around your Ref tag above. This page, like any other, sees the ref tag and tries to make a reference out of the text after it.  So most of your question was not visible.  Just a note I thought I'd point out...  Dismas |(talk) 01:08, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the error. You didn't close two of your ref tags.  Each tag that you open with ref you have to close with /ref.  And if you're going to use the same reference several times, you can just name the reference and then on each subsequent use, just use the name instead of the entire reference.  You might benefit from reading Referencing for beginners.  Note: I didn't actually read what you posted, so I have no opinion on the text.  Dismas |(talk) 01:14, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Genitalia in photo to left in "Hello Kitty" article
Who is responsible for providing or removing the genetalia with a ring pictured in the bio to the right of the article on HElLLO KITTY? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.125.167 (talk) 01:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The picture was added as a bit of vandalism. It has already been removed by another user.  Thank you for reporting this, however!  -- Jayron  32  01:28, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

A user with two identities
Dear editors: From time to time on talk pages I have read of "sockpuppetry", and it seems to be frowned on, so I thought that I should report someone who has created two identical drafts of the same article, one after the other was declined, with two different user names. User:Ijazul Haq Engineer created Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Wijdan Research Consultants, and User:Ijazulhaq716 created User:Ijazulhaq716/Wijdan Research Consultants. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 01:40, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Unless there is a deliberate attempt to either a) deceive other editors into thinking two different accounts are two different people OR b) to avoid a block on a prior account, then multiple accounts are allows. Unless you have evidence that this has been done in this case, there isn't any problem.  Many people create one account, lose the password, and have to create a second account, for example.  That's allowed.  The fact that they share similar names is evidence that the person who created them isn't trying to be deceptive or disruptive.  If they aren't trying to be deceptive or disruptive, or are not dodging a block, there is no problem.  -- Jayron  32  01:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * If the first account is no longer active that would be an indication that it is indeed a legitimate case of creating a new account after losing access to the first one. If both accounts are currently active there would be grounds for an investigation. Multiple concurrently active accounts are normally only allowed for very specific purposes such as operating a bot. Roger (talk) 11:18, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, there are several situations where multiple accounts are allowed (see WP:SOCK) and it's not always required to disclose it publicly as long as they are not used for illegitimate purposes (although it's a good idea to let the checkusers or arbcom know beforehand). Anyway getting back to this particular case, has not edited since 21 February and  was created only on 5 March so there is no issue as yet; for now we can assume good faith. Jayron32's explanation is probably correct. Chamal T •C 11:43, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Help to Remove Child Abusive Sexually Explicit Content.
Here is the PAGE URL: File:Still from Chatrak - Paoli Dam and Anubrato.png From the respectable Wikipedia site. Please Remove the Copyrighted infringing material from the site. Regards, Team Intelligence Branch. India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Intelligence.branch (talk • contribs) 03:16, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * There is currently a discussion here about this topic. You're free to add your opinion at that discussion, as it little will be done here to address your concerns.  -- Jayron  32  03:32, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The file has been deleted. You can refer to the discussion that Jayron32 has linked to, if you need further details. Chamal T •C 11:47, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Creating Wikipedia page
Hello Can you please help me out in creating a Wikipedia page of our firm ? From where do i start with? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smart Trade Online (talk • contribs) 07:30, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The first step is to read Notability (organizations and companies) — It's possible that your firm is not a suitable subject for an encyclopedic article.  If you believe notability can be established, the next page you should read is  Conflict of interest.  If you then wish to proceed, the next place to check out is  Your first article.  ~Regards, 74.60.29.141 (talk) 07:45, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

WHAT IS THE BEST APP/SOFTWARE TO CREATE COLOR CODED MAPS LIKE YOU SEE ON THIS... AMAZING.... SITE CALL WIKIPEDIA
HAS TO BE FREE

WILL CHECK BACK HERE ONLY -- DO NOT CHECK/READ TALK PAGE EVER

THIS IS MY NATURAL REACTION UPON VISITING THIS... SITE THAT I VISIT SO FREQUENTLY...... -- DO NOT MIND IT

Coginsys (talk)
 * What? --Closedmouth (talk) 08:51, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * NO WORTHLESS RESPONSES! THANKS! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coginsys (talk • contribs) 08:51, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Have a look at Graphics Lab/Resources/Tutorials. From there it looks as if most of these maps are created using Inkscape. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:04, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * First of all stop shouting. You might be looking for this tool. -- Ushau97 talk 09:07, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The Wiki tutorials also cover GRASS GIS and Quantum GIS, so presumably those are used too. -- Q Chris (talk) 09:09, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

listed buildings
whilst searching for a possible missed listing in High Green ,Sheffield S35, I could find no reference to St.Saviours Church,Mortomley, Formerly in the West Riding, It was given Grade 2 Listing in 1973 by Sheffield Council when they took over admin of our area can your lists be modified to include the church. Edward Bellamy. Church Archivist — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ted bellamy (talk • contribs) 10:09, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * If you can cite a reliable source for the information it can certainly be added. Something like a newspaper article mentioning the church's status would do very nicely. Perhaps you can find something usable in your archive. Roger (talk) 11:09, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * British Listed Buildings Online has a very thorough list of listed buildings in the UK, with a search facility. I can't find this church there. Maproom (talk) 14:28, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I have added it to Listed buildings in Sheffield as it appears in the official Sheffield list at https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/dms/scc/management/corporate-communications/documents/planning/conservation/Sheffields-Listed-Buildings-December-2012/Sheffields%20Listed%20Buildings%20December%202012.pdf it also appear on the English Heritage list at http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/resultsingle.aspx?uid=1286375 MilborneOne (talk) 17:34, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Best selling album
List of best-selling albums

HI IM HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE BEST SELLING ALBUM PAGE, Michael jACKSON  ALBUM history PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE HAS A REFERENCE THAT INDICATES 20 MILLION SOLD HOWEVER IT CONTINUES TO BE DELETED,,,,,,,CAN SOMEONE HELP,,THANK YOU,,,,--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:43, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * There is a discussion about this album on the article's talk page, you should discuss it there. And please don't SHOUT. Maproom (talk) 14:40, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Update info please
Hi, we need to update the link for The King's Church Chesham on the CHESHAM page. Could a volunteer help please? Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.89.161 (talk) 14:58, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * This is about Chesham. There was a red link King's Church, which I have removed. What did you want it updated to? Maproom (talk) 15:11, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The article King's Church does not exist. That is the reason it was red-linked. Since the article does not exist, I have removed the link to it . The King's Church article was deleted because it has no claim of notability. So it is unlikely that the article will be retained even if it was created again. -- Ushau97 talk 15:17, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Off-topic: I removed the link too. But it doesn't appear in the edit history. Does anyone know why? -- Ushau97 talk 15:27, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * If I understand correctly, if a user makes the exact same edit as another user at around the same time, the software only counts it once and uses the first user's edit. You and Maproom were making the same edit at the same time, but Maproom saved the edit first. When you saved your edit, Maproom's edit had already been saved. Since there was no difference between your new edit and the now current revision, the software disregarded your edit. Does this make sense? The Anonymouse (talk &#124; contribs) 15:50, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * My internet connection is very slow tonight (well, it is night for me, might not be the same for you). Maybe that is the reason for the problem. But there should have been an edit conflict notice when I saved the page, right? But enigmatically there was no such notice. Anyways, thanks for the reply. I should probably get this off my mind. But, if there is anyone out there who is savvy with this, please let me know. -- Ushau97 talk 16:04, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I think the edit conflict notice is only displayed when the edits conflict each other. Both of your edits did not technically conflict each other since they were exactly the same edit. The Anonymouse (talk &#124; contribs) 16:15, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * If the edits are identical there won't be a conflict and the system will simply discard the second one. Roger (talk) 16:18, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Exactly,! Why couldn't I have thought of that? Thanks a lot, both of you. -- Ushau97 talk 16:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Just a question for curiosity's sake
What would happen if someone created Template: ~ ? Would it affect the signature syntax? - a boat   that can float!   (watch me float)  15:42, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * No. It could only make a difference if someone typed, four tildes enclosed in double curly brackets, and even then, the signature expansion seems to take effect first, thus:
 * It's not even possible: "A title cannot contain 3 or more continuous tildes. ". (WP:Page name) When I try to create a page with that title, I get "Bad title". The Anonymouse (talk &#124; contribs) 16:21, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh yes; all I did was a search and nothing showed up. Thanks, both of you! - a boat   that can float!   (watch me float)  17:16, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Valid editing has to be applied and approved...
Hi,

Many user who refer Wikipedia have said that the last user who have viewed this\that page have edited some unwanted updates, so i request u that only valid users or owners can edit the pages or please ensure that updating has been done regularly by admin or employees of Wikipedia.. Because users refer many websites and blogs for information and there are possibilities to make changes according to him..

Thanks in Advance.. Regards, Parthiban — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parthivdude (talk • contribs) 15:45, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * We editors are all volunteers. We are all "valid users", there are no "owners", and we are not paid. Maybe that is not ideal, but it is the way things are done here. Maproom (talk) 15:49, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is a wiki. That means almost anyone can edit and add content. So such an idea is against the whole point of Wikipedia itself. -- Ushau97  talk 15:58, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Please read Ownership of articles. The Anonymouse (talk &#124; contribs) 16:23, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Book disappeared
I was compiling a book, and when I logged on today there were no pages in teh book, all were gone. There was nothing. Is there a way I can recover it? Why did it go away? How can I prevent this from happineing again? I wish I had taken a screen shot of the contents, it would be easy to recover, but I didn't. I did update Java today, would that have done it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bsis301 (talk • contribs) 16:45, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * If you had saved a book it would have been listed in your contribution record. You will not, however, have been able to save a book yet, as your account is not yet autoconfirmed.  See Help:Books.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Biddulph (talk • contribs) 17:02, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Article star ratings have gone - TAKE 2
The article star ratings that used to be at the bottom of each article have gone. Why ? They were very useful. Take 1 of this question is here: Help_desk/Archives/2013_March_21 --Penbat (talk) 17:09, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Article feedback was disabled last month for improvements. Now, article feedback is available on an opt-in basis by adding Category:Article Feedback 5 to an article. The Anonymouse (talk &#124; contribs) 17:18, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It seems a very drastic retrograde step to delete "Feedback 4" from all articles for a long period of time while "Feedback 5" is being tested. "Feedback 4" may not have been perfect but it is far better than nothing.--Penbat (talk) 17:33, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Apparently, the old five-star system was good to find which articles are good and which aren't. But it didn't help to find ways to fix articles. That's why the new feedback tool has a text box: users can write comments. --186.53.147.49 (talk) 17:05, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

CSD log constantly deleting chunks of itself
My CSD log keeps auto deleting large chunks of itself, how can I solve this glitch? Valenciano (talk) 18:04, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I've never seen this before but I'm wondering if it has something to do with the size of the page? Twinkle does have a bug report feature on its Github if you wanted to report it there. I'll make a note about it on the Twinkle talk page. --Nick—Contact/Contribs 23:32, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I thought it might be down to the size of the page myself so I moved all the pre-March stuff to an archive. I'll keep an eye on the twinkle talk page. Valenciano (talk) 05:30, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks like that's probably the issue. See here. --Nick—Contact/Contribs 01:10, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Help with someone vandalizing a page
We've been fighting a user all day who is spamming/vandalizing a page, and changing information. Is there an administrator who could help lock this page, or block this one user? The URL is Chad Connelly.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexstro (talk • contribs) 18:10, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I have warned User:Knarfxii for vandalism. If it continues, you can request page protection at WP:RPP.--ukexpat (talk) 18:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * User:Knarfxii now blocked.--ukexpat (talk) 13:59, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Old Manuscript
Dear Folks: I would appreciate if someone could please visit the GWON BEOP article and provide me with a judgement on a picture I have just uploaded. The "picture" is actually a jpeg of one of 9 pages from a military manual written in the 16th Century. My intention is to clean-up each of these reproductions and post them to the article in a gallery and do the same with the same material from the comparable Korean manual published in 1795. However, I want to be sure that I am working within Wiki policy. A copy of the original manual---at least a reproduction of it--- is kept at the Library of Congress so the matter of public access is not a problem. Needless to say the author has been dead about 4 centuries, but I would still appreciate a judgement call before I put in all of the work. Thoughts? Best Wishes.--Bruce W Sims (talk) 18:55, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The article is Gwonbeop. Can you explain how you obtained your jpegs? Did you scan the Library of Congress's copy? or do you have a copy of your own which you scanned? Are you in the US (where, I believe, scans of an out-of-copyright work may be freely copied)? It's hard to answer questions about copyright law without knowing. Maproom (talk) 23:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I have a copy of my own which I scanned into my computer and then cleaned-up with Photoshop. Since I live here in the US I was pretty sure that I'm OK but I thought I would ask just to be safe. Best Wishes --Bruce W Sims (talk) 12:42, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Dj Steel
Yesterday I attempted to create an artist page for myself but it was flagged for speedy deletion due to copyright infringement but the link that they referenced was the actual link to my website. www.Djsteelworldwide.com/epk.html. I contacted the user who deleted my post Username: INevercry, and they replied stating I need to either place an explicit free license directly on my site or contact WP:OTRS to give permission to use. I cliked on the WP:OTRS link that they provided but I saw all kinds of warnings at the top of the page telling people not to post anything there. Im confused. I am the owner of www.djsteelworldwide.com and I am just trying to create an artist profile for myself on Wikipedia. Can someone please help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steelworldwide (talk • contribs) 22:02, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello! A detailed explanation of how to grant copyright permission in these types of cases can be found here. Essentially, you would email the OTRS team at the email address listed on that page. However, I need to caution you that other policies are in effect here. Your material would still be deleted if it is found to be promotional, non-notable, or unencyclopedic. You would also need to familiarize yourself with the conflict of interest policy and understand that, since you are affiliated with the subject of the article, editors are going to scrutinize your contributions. Material that is copied from the subject's own website is usually not written in the proper format for an encyclopedia, so it will be much easier for you if the article is written using new wording, rather than granting permission to copy from your website. If you want to help make the article to last, I strongly recommend that you make sure you meet the criteria listed here and then run your article through the article wizard process to get some help. --Nick—Contact/Contribs 23:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Frank Darby new article
I today created a wikipedia page on myself, but I cannot find it ??Darby48 (talk) 22:13, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It is on your user page at User:Darby48 RudolfRed (talk) 22:55, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Because you've created this page on Wikipedia, I'll presume that you intend for it to become an article here at some point. With all due respect to your accomplishments, however, there are a number of issues with it as written, not the least of which may be notability. If you should want to proceed, please read WP:BIO and WP:AUTOBIO and use the WP:AFC process to submit it for review. —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 01:28, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Formatting break
It seems that there is some sort of formatting break at Vital articles/Expanded/Arts.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:45, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * ? if you mean the level 2 headers from Music on down and the Navbox being included in the columns. That was broken here and is now fixed. —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 01:12, 27 March 2013 (UTC)