Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 May 15

= May 15 =

Problem adding link to 39th G8 summit
title edited Tonywalton Talk I want to link the town which is hold this years G8 summit 2013 in the 39th G8 summit page. As you can see when I write Enniskillen it say that the page is not created when their is a page about this town created (however some reason it links to the right page on this page). I have put a pipe in '|' before the name so that it would go to the right page but it still doesn't work. Does anyone know how I can direct people to the right page. Cbowsie (talk) 00:20, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Not sure what your problem is - if you want to place a mention to Enniskillen in the article please do so. I see though that you've said Enniskillen with a space before "En"; maybe that's the problem, it needs just to be Tonywalton Talk 00:34, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Enniskillen and Enniskillen both work and give the same result: Enniskillen. I guess you wrote something else, maybe a typo in the name, when you first tried to make the link. You apparently didn't save so we cannot see what was wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:49, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Enniskillen and 39th G8 summit seem to me to work. 39th G8 summit does not mention the town.  Are you planning to edit the article to include the town as well as the county?  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:15, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

If you go to the 39th G8 summit page you will see that Enniskillen is mentioned, but the link takes you to a page saying it doesn't exist. However I think the problem is that the page is for Enniskillen townland and not the town on Enniskillen which are slightly different. Therefore I have put town of Enniskillen before a pipe; but it doesn't work.Cbowsie (talk) 01:38, 15 May 2013 (UTC) this might help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enniskillen_%28disambiguation%29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbowsie (talk • contribs) 01:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * As Robert said above, 39th G8 summit does not mention Enniskillen, so we don't understand what you are trying to say. - David Biddulph (talk) 03:28, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * As others say, there is no mention of Enniskillen in the page you are linking: 39th G8 summit. I had an idea and examined other languages. I see you have edited simple:39th G8 summit. That article is at http://simple.wikipedia.org so it is in the Simple English Wikipedia which has no article about Enniskillen. They only have around 100,000 articles where the normal English Wikipedia here at http://en.wikipedia.org has around 4,230,000. I don't know the policies of the simple English Wikipedia but here at the normal English we very rarely make inline interlanguage links to other Wikipedias. It could be done with, or with   to hide the language code. See Help:Interlanguage links. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:28, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

elvis presley first appearance on the ed sullivan show
My Family moved to California on Aug 4, 1954 from Quebec Canada I was 12 years old at the time and as I remember very clearly that I saw Elvis on the Ed Sullivan on a black and white TV at a friends house. This was before we moved to California. I can't recall the exact date but I remember that the show blocked out the bottom part of his body. Your article say's his first appearance was Sept 9, 1956 which I think is not correct. Thanks Yves Lauriault — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yves571 (talk • contribs) 01:45, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Elvis Presley and Ed_Sullivan_Show give different dates for the first appearance.   I'm not sure which one is correct.   RudolfRed (talk) 02:07, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Can the two articles have an inconsistency tag applied?   Robert McClenon (talk) 02:15, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:BOLD. If it needs a tag, go ahead and add it, along with a note on the talk page.  RudolfRed (talk) 02:17, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Disable simulated support
On every page there is a script that simulates support for the  attribute of   elements. Is it possible to disable it? Kxx (talk &#124; contribs) 01:50, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The MediaWiki software now renders the  element with the   attribute. This is allowed per the HTML Living Standard.   allows allows the MediaWiki software to render alternate images based on the device capabilities. The W3C HTML validator has not yet been updated to support this and throws an error.
 * Is there some other issue? --  Gadget850talk 13:18, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Without native browser support it is a huge bandwidth waster. By the time when the script modifies the  values, the browser has loaded a lot of data using the old values. Kxx (talk &#124; contribs) 04:47, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Supporting Photo for Don Albinson Page Keeps Getting Deleted :(
Hello - I keep trying to upload this photo: File:Albi Fixtures 3 cropped 042313.jpg Albi Armless Stacking Chairs Designed by Don Albinson for Fixtures to the Don Albinson page (Don Albinson), but it keeps getting deleted due to concerns with the copyright. I have an email that I forwarded to permissions-en@wikimedia.org in which Bruce Albinson (Don Albinson's son) sent me the images and permission to use them for this wiki page. So I just re-uploaded the pic as "free use" and with that email as my back-up, I hope the image posts this time. If I'm doing something totally wrong here, please let me know as I am eager to get this last image up. Thank you.

Kx.maniphest.destiny (talk) 01:53, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Free use on Wikipedia means totally free use, for any purpose. We don't accept pictures released just for use within Wikipedia.  Rojomoke (talk) 04:11, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

CSD C1 categories
Hello. There are a few things things about the CSD C1 process that confuses me. Category:University of Chicago School of Social Service Administration is nominated for deletion, and the template db-c1 placed it into Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as empty categories. However, the latter category appears to be empty.

Category:2010 NCAA Division III football season is also nominated for deletion, but instead of db-c1 it has db-catempty. With this template, the category is placed into Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion, which seems to be populated with 300+ articles awaiting deletion through CSD C1.

Since db-catempty redirects to db-c1, why does each template place the CSD-nominated categories into separate categories? Furthermore, why does one category have 0 entries, while the other has 300+ waiting for deletion? Lastly, are admins not addressing the CSD C1 backlog because nobody seems to be aware that it exists? Edge3 (talk) 02:14, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * (Partial answer) I made a null edit to Category:University of Chicago School of Social Service Administration and then purged Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as empty categories, and now the Chicago category is listed in the deletion category. I have no idea why these extra steps were needed. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:06, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * If you look at the code of db-c1, you'll see that it includes the expression:
 * This presumably puts the CSD-nominated category into different categories depending on whether or not it has been there for more than the 4 days required for deletion under this criterion. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:43, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * This presumably puts the CSD-nominated category into different categories depending on whether or not it has been there for more than the 4 days required for deletion under this criterion. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:43, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Metal Gear Solid HD Collection
I had noticed that there had been many popular video game collections released in the 2012 but how come "Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection" was not included in "Game Releases" section. Of the year 2011? This was a very popular video game collection released in 2011. Here are the release dates: http://www.vgreleases.com/ps3/ReleaseDate-851998.aspx Pls add this in the list. Thanks. Thanks Technical! 112.209.158.200 (talk) 09:34, 14 May 2013 (UTC) Please be patient. Someone will make the edit at some point. Or you can make it yourself, but you cannot use the VGreleases reference as it is an unreliable site. - X201 (talk) 10:02, 14 May 2013 (UTC) Alright X201. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks Btw here are other references: http://asia.gamespot.com/metal-gear-solid-hd-collection/related/release/platform/ps3/ http://asia.gamespot.com/metal-gear-solid-hd-collection/related/release/platform/xbox360/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.209.158.200 (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2013 (UTC) This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. Hello, please note that the edit semi-protected tag is only to be used on articles that are semi-protected. The log shows that this article has not been protected since December 2011, so subject to the policies on verifiability and neutral point of view, you should be able to make this edit yourself. If you cannot, please reactivate the edit request or visit the help desk. —KuyaBriBriTalk 05:01, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * This is from Talk:Metal Gear Solid HD Collection. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:56, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Search not working for newly archived page
Hi all. I recently added a template to archive the discussions on Talk:Arimaa. The discussions are now correctly archived and the header correctly shows me a link to the archive pages, but the the search box isn't working. I'm sure I did something wrong but I don't know what's wrong or how to fix it. Thanks. Mattj2 (talk) 05:31, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * All the Wikipedia search boxes refer to a [huge] text index which is updated once a day; see Help:Searching. The search box at Talk:Arimaa is working for me, so perhaps the update has happened since you posted here. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:51, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Yeah it works fine now. Mattj2 (talk) 07:58, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

copyright of images of famous paintings
Famous paintings are usually owned by artists or someone else already owns the copyrights to these.When I say famous paintings I mean mona lisa, bacchus,the judgement of paris etc.Surely pictures or images of these paintings were not found on public domain. Then how did these pictures get posted on wikipedia? Can i use pictures of paintings i come across on internet(which are not in public domain)also ple? Or is it that I am missing something?Also please inform about the nature of the source of these paintings in wikipeida? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaeljackson56 (talk • contribs) 05:58, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * If the paintings are sufficiently old, then photographs of the paintings are also public domain. The page Commons:Commons:2D copying explains the principle; it does not apply to photographs of three-dimensional artworks such as sculptures. If there are particular images you've found on the Internet that you'd like to use in a Wikipedia article, the best place to ask for advice is Media copyright questions.
 * For images already at Wikipedia, you can click on them to see the "file page" which describes its source and copyright status. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:45, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Copy edit tag
Ok, I was putting a copyedit tag on an article, but it wasn't categorized! I don't know why, so could anyone help? By the way, the article is Super Mario (series). Darrman (talk) 06:10, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * For me, the category list includes Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit from April 2013 and Category:All articles needing copy edit, so it seems to have worked. Do you have the preference turned on to see "hidden categories"? (Special:Preferences, "Appearance" tab, third checkbox in the "Advanced options") -- John of Reading (talk) 06:34, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Anyway, thanks for pointing it out. Darrman (talk) 07:38, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I turned on that preference, and it was there! It was sorted in the M section, not the S'es. Apparently, it went as Mario, not Super. That's why I was looking in the S section. Darrman (talk) 07:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * It's sorted under M because it contains . PrimeHunter (talk) 10:03, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Fixing an obvious spelling error
On a talk page, what is the protocal for fixing another editors innocent mistake that he probably doesn't even notive. There. Like that. I meant to type notice but instead I hit the "v" key next the "C" key...and typed notive. Its an obvious mistake because notive just doesn't make sense. The issue at hand, at an important article talk page, is "went" was typed but obviously it should have been "want". "Some editors went....." but it should read "Some editors want.....". I know I can go to the editor and point it out...and we can all move on. But thats not the issue that I raise. What I'm asking is, if my intent is only to "edit an obvious mistake" and I changed it, without asking the editor, could/should/would I be challenged. I can see that a fellow editor may not like it but thats not really my concern. As an editot I fix mistakes wherever I find them. Ive done this type of repair in the past without the slightest repercussion. I'm more curious what other editors think than anything. ```Buster Seven   Talk  07:03, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The guideline is at WP:TPO, and is fairly clear. I do bulk typo-fixing (details here), but never on talk pages; and when working on pages in the "Wikipedia" and "Portal" namespaces I take care to skip pages containing discussions. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:17, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Personally i wouldn't edit another editor's comment even if they asked me to. Their mistake, their problem. Plus the range of disputes this could start is massive. There's a guideline/policy on editing others' posts anyway, which John has nicely posted up (and which i missed the first time). Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 09:53, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * If the error/typo does not totally destroy the readability of the post, leave it alone. If it is a major error that renders the post unintelligible you can supply a correction in a subsequent post of your own but do not correct the other person's original post. The only time you are allowed to directly edit another person's post is if it violates one of the serious rules such as personal attacks or vandalism - in which case the entire post is usually deleted. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:24, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Page origin
how do i find out who wrote the article and when the website was made for a bibliography — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.255.138 (talk) 09:07, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Go to the article and select the "View history" tab at the top. You will see a list of the edits made to the page. At the bottom of the list, select "oldest" from the (newest | oldest) option. The bottom edit of the subsequent page will show the date and time of creation, and the name of the editor who created it. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  09:16, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * But for the purposes of a bibliography, please read WP:Citing Wikipedia. Wikipedia articles don't have an author or date in the usual sense.--ColinFine (talk) 09:25, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

PlumSoft
This is Tarak. user in wikipedia and I have a problem  with an article, recently i created one article PlumSoft but it is not visible in wikipedia  search. Please rectify my problem — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarakmoyyi (talk • contribs) 09:41, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The page you created is in your sandbox, here. It is not visible in Wikipedia search because it it is not a Wikipedia article. It is not yet suitable for converting to a Wikipedia article, for several reasons, including: it does not start by saying what Plumsoft is; it is too promotional in style; and it provides no evidence that Plumsoft is notable. Also, the way it is written suggests that you are connected with Plumsoft, and therefore have a conflict of interest, and should not be working on the article at all. Maproom (talk) 10:10, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * This answers the question I was going to move from the archives. It was asked at the top of the page and that was part of the archived questions.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:29, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

File:20091014 001914 FrancoAmericanSpaghetti.jpg
dw=yes paramater is not passed down via self. There doesn't seem to be an obvious point in the code for self where it could be passed. Suggestions? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:49, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It looks as if you've solved this one yourself since posting here. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:04, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Write a biography
I wish to write the life story of my Grandfather who was a high ranking and a senior general in the army. how do i go about doing that? I also have pictures of his with head of states that i wish to include. How do I do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zulfi1971 (talk • contribs) 10:02, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your grandfather is notable and writes about it here.-- Laun  chba  ller  10:14, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Rather than Launchballer's rather unfriendly response, I'll try to give a little more friendly advice. The first point is whether or not your grandfather was notable - that is, are there reliable published sources (books, newspapers etc) that give significant information about him. If there are not, then there cannot be an article about him, because there is no reliably sourced information that can go in the article: your personal knowledge, and unpublished family records, are not acceptable in Wikipedia articles unless they are corroborated by publicly available sources.
 * If there is enough information published about him, then there may be an article. As Launchballer indicates, you are discouraged from writing it because of your conflict of interest, but not completely forbidden. But you may certainly request that somebody else write such an article, by placing a request at WP:Requested articles (though there is a long backlog). --ColinFine (talk) 11:05, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * As regards the second part of your question, if you wish to include images in a Wikipedia article you will need to establish their copyright status and whether you can release them under an appropriate licence, which will determine whether you can upload them. See Picture tutorial for more information. -  Ka renjc 17:52, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Editing Edgar Pêra
I´ve been trying to edit the article Edgar Pêra, citing the sources, and keeping a neutral point of view. But it still says that the page does not comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

Can you help me, or point out specifically in the article what must be done in order to comply?

Thank you

Ridethestorm (talk) 10:52, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you have a connection with the subject of the article? If so, that is why the article was tagged.  If you do not have a connection to the subject of the article, then please read the article's talk page to see what comments have been made.    Robert McClenon (talk) 18:31, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Citing an advertisement poster
When citing a poster (in my case an advertisement for a music event), should I use Cite sign for that? If so, is there a place from where I can paste a version with all parameters? (The documentation does not contain a blank version with empty parameters). If that is not the most appropriate template, which one should I use instead? The poster I want to cite is this one. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  11:50, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I recommend cite AV media. --  Gadget850talk 13:08, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That works. Thanks, Gadget. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  13:39, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Signature
My new one generates an error message. Does anyone know why? It's:
 * ツ Jenova  20  (email)

Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 12:42, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I tested it by pasting your signature markup into the signature field in my own preferences and got the error Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags. When I preview the markup in my sandbox, it generates your signature. This implies to me that the markup contains something the MediaWiki software doesn't like. I will have to test what exactly it is. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  13:04, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You have a closing without .  is obsolete, but it still works for now.


 * --  Gadget850talk 13:06, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * So what exactly does that mean? I can use it on pages to get my signature, but if i change my signature to it then i get the "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags" message...Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 13:14, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Try removing the first tag, the one immediately after "Jenova". -- John of Reading (talk) 13:33, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * This should do it. I update the tags:


 * --  Gadget850talk 13:57, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Nice work there Gadget. Can you change the 20 back to red though? Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 14:13, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The following has the number in red:


 * --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  15:13, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the assistance Toshio ツ Jenova  20  (email) 15:46, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Problem - It only appears red on my talk page...Can you fix that? Thanks ツ Jenova  20  (email) 15:48, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Should have put the span inside the link:


 * --  Gadget850talk 18:13, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much Gadget ツ Jenova  20  (email) 00:00, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Company Page Needs To Be Changed
To whom this may concern:

I work for DPR Group, Inc., a public relations firm that repersents various clients in the technology industry. One of my clients, QuestaWeb, Inc. had be create a Wiki page for them and their is an issue with the page that I am unable to correct. Currently, the company is listed as QuestaWeb, Inc. and they would like it to be changed to just QuestaWeb. Apparently there has been issues when people are searching for the page, and the page also does not show up if they leave off "Inc." in the web address. Can the main page title be changed? If not, is there any way I can delete the current page and create a new one? Please get back to me ASAP.

Thank you, Cori O. DPR Group, Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DPRcori (talk • contribs) 13:19, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That article violates article name policy. It's also loaded with POV and weasel words. Please read conflict of interest. Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 14:12, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I have returned the "problem tags" that were illegitimately removed. Such tags may only be removed when the problems they point out have actually been fixed. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I was in the process of tagging it too but you beat me to it. Nicely done ツ Je no va  20  (email) 14:45, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I thought while I'm at it I might as well add an A7 tag too. BTW Is there any specific guidance for PR professionals? I have a vague memory of seeing such a page years ago. IIRC it explained the problems PR people generally have with writing here. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:12, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * DPRcori: You have a clear conflict of interest because you are writing about a subject to which you have a professional connection. Ideally you should avoid creating or editing articles about your clients. Please consult the plain and simple conflict of interest guide for advice. --Drm310 (talk) 15:17, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Among other pages, WikiProject Cooperation gives some advice for PR professionals. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:23, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * FAQ/Organizations is another relevant one. --Drm310 (talk) 15:26, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * ..., which in turn links to the essay For publicists publicizing a client's work. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:42, Today (UTC+1) —Preceding undated comment added 15:46, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Nice hunch. I reported the username as a possible username violation too since the parent company is DPR Group ツ Je no va  20  (email) 15:43, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Recovering a deleted page
I accidently posted an active article page that I thought was my personal sandbox edit. It was deleted and I wanted to know how do I retrieve the information from that article --Christina geo (talk) 15:58, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The simplest option would be to ask the admin who deleted it to WP:Userfy the page to your sandbox. If you give us a link to the deleted page any admin seeing this discussion can do it for you. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:14, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Weird font sizes on watchlist
I am viewing Wikipedia from an android device and the entries on my watchlist are all different font sizes. It does this on Chrome and on Firefox to a lesser extent. Any ideas what's going on here? ~Adjwilley (talk) 16:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I assume it's meant to be a feature since i can also replicate this. Thanks ツ Jenova  20  (email) 15:28, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Page updates
after editing an article on the current events page and saving, I can see the update on the day page. On returning to the current event page, the edit is not visible. Why? (Server cache purged and browser cache bypassed)Problem on both IE & Chrome Fudpukker (talk) 18:14, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Did you purge the current event page as described at Purge? That should work. It doesn't help to purge the day page you edited. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:30, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Trayvon Martin's page
Trayvon Martin's page why hasn't the pictures of his wounds been displayed, the voice recording of the 911 operator clearly asking this murderer to not follow Trayvon etc.

Why is this page not providing all the information???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.252.179.42 (talk) 20:17, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Copyright issues on images. See: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Commons_policies_and_guidelines --Canoe1967 (talk) 20:23, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Escape Character Question
Is there an escape character or sequence for the asterisk used to tell the MediaWiki parser where a list starts so that I can use it inside the 'Quote' template? —&thinsp;RandomDSdevel (talk) 20:35, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you mean you want to prevent MediaWiki from transforming the asterisk into a bullet point, like in the second example here in my sandbox? I achieved this by transcluding User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Template:Asterisk. If that is not what you meant, then please clarify. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  21:56, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * No, the asterisk isn't interpreted by the MediaWiki parser because it's inside the 'Quote' template, and I want to fix this. Is there any way that I can do that?  —&thinsp;RandomDSdevel (talk) 22:00, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I still don't get what you mean. Is it correct that you want to pass some markup, including asterisks, as a parameter to Quote and want those asterisks to be interpreted as bullet points for a list, with this list being part of the markup being passed to the template as parameter? --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  22:16, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe we can help if you post the code that doesn't do as you want, and describe what you want it to do instead. Asterisks work for me below but maybe you want something else.

"* Line 1
 * Line 2
 * Line 3"


 * PrimeHunter (talk) 23:06, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Ooohh…I apparently can't have an asterisk nested right up against the equals sign of the optional name for this first 'text' parameter and thus must put it on a new line by putting a tag after the equals sign. —&thinsp;RandomDSdevel (talk) 22:32, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That should work. Whitespace characters are stripped from the beginnings and ends of named parameters but not from unnamed parameters. See Help:Template. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:50, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Can I bookmark pages internally to Wikipedia?
I would like to bookmark pages internally to Wikipedia. Browser bookmarks decay, and the 'Watchlist' does not adequately provide this function, but may be modified to do so. It would also be useful to show any parent/child tree of the page bookmarked, e.g., Organic Chemistry (Chemistry/Organic Chemistry/.../...). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronbwiki (talk • contribs) 20:51, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You can keep internal links on your user page, "Organic chemistry chemistry etc.". I don't know if this would achieve what you want. Maproom (talk) 22:39, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Model 1893 7x57 Spanish Mauser
What would the value be for a Model 1893 7x57 Spanish Mauser? The Year 1913 is stamped on the barrel the gun is in good condition. Someone has one for sale and I want to know what the going price is before I think about buying it.75.75.145.215 (talk) 21:43, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:01, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * http://arms2armor.com/store/product1053.html $236USD.--Canoe1967 (talk) 06:47, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Template help needed
I am trying to convert a fr:Wikipedia article into an English article. I can more or less manage the French, but I am having trouble with the templates. I have successfully converted Modèle:Théorème to template:math_theorem, and it does what it's meant to. But my attempts to convert Modèle:Démonstration to Template:Math_proof have resulted in a mess, as you can see here. How can I find someone to get it working for me? Maproom (talk) 22:29, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

If you feel like contributing to the translated article itself, while it's in my sandbox, you are more than welcome. But I think I can manage everything there that still need fixing, apart from the "proof" template. Maproom (talk) 22:34, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, technically, it isn't in your sandbox, because it is in regular user space. The sandbox is periodically blanked.  Robert McClenon (talk) 00:16, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Please be sure to add an entry to Dimension (disambiguation) after you move the article into mainspace. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:22, 16 May 2013 (UTC)