Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 May 26

= May 26 =

Eric Emerson
hello, in your eric emerson post you have not listed the name of of one of his children, her name is monique walraven born 1969 at beth isreal hospital born to krysteen walraven and alfred emerson. aka eric emerson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.176.242.137 (talk) 01:15, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * (ec) Eric Emerson article does not mention that he was also known as Alfred. Are they the same person? If so, please raise the issue on the article's talk page.  RudolfRed (talk) 01:22, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Please note though that Wikipedia articles are based on published reliable sources. We'd need such evidence to justify adding anything to the article, though it is debatable under Wikipedia policy whether we need to give the names of Emerson's children at all. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:26, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Indeed the presumption of privacy in the BLP policies requires us to strongly prefer not to name non-notable living relatives of biography subject. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:18, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

San Roque Catholic School
I'm not sure what to do about a new editor, User:Enzodeocales, who is adding large amounts of unsourced content to an existing small article about this church school in the Phillipines. Unfortunately, there wasn't any sourcing for the existing text in the article. I reverted once, placing a template on the user's page explaining the need for sourcing. He very quickly re-added his content, with no sourcing and no Edit summary. I reverted again, with an explanatory Edit summary, and reinforcing the need for sourcing on the user's Talk page. Within minutes he had again re-added his content, this time with what to him must be the explanation of "Changes on History as per SRCS Admin..." I suspect he may also think that writing "The spirit is eternal; SRCS will always Do everything in love (1 Cor. 16:14)" in the article is good sourcing. I cannot and will not revert again now because of 3RR, but it seems we have a kind of incompetence on display here, rather than deliberately rule breaking behaviour.

I'm not sure where to go next. HiLo48 (talk) 03:25, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * There's been a couple of extra visitors to the article who seem to have sorted it out for now. Thank you. Just have to wait and see if the user has learnt anything. HiLo48 (talk) 05:39, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * They seem to be at 3RR now(which I mentioned in a message at their talk), so if they rvt again without responding to messages or warnings, AN3 would be your best bet.  He  iro 05:41, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Richard Rudolph composer and songwriter
What is Richard Rudolph's birthday? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylo205 (talk • contribs) 06:24, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You can ask at the reference desk. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 06:45, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

How can I search talk pages?
It appears that Google does not index Wikipedia talk pages. I've been accused of being a sock-puppet because I used the same expression as another editor. How can I search the talk pages to prove that the expression is not that uncommon? 5.12.68.204 (talk) 07:18, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Go to Special:Search, click "Advanced", and adjust the tickboxes; then enter your search expression and click "Search". There's more at Help:Searching. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:27, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that was very helpful. 5.12.68.204 (talk) 07:29, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

No Translator field in Citation templates
There seem to be no specific field(s) for for the translator of a work in the and  templates. How is this supposed to be handled?

Chris Fynn (talk) 07:49, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * See the entry for "others" in the documentation at either template: Template:Citation; Template:Cite.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 08:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. In works translated from languages remote from English, I notice that the publishers (and library records) sometimes list the translator as the main "author" of the work. Chris Fynn (talk) 08:56, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that is a failure of proper attribution methinks. Imagine, from the other end, someone at the Portuguese Wikipedia citing a Portuguese translated version of Hamlet and not giving Shakespeare as the author.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:18, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Yugoslav Navy
corrections for data on S.F.R. of Yugoslav Navy 1945-1992 total vessels : 95 + Naval Personel : 11,000 07:52, 26 May 2013 (UTC)123.211.6.13 (talk)
 * Just so long you have a source, add it in! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darrman (talk • contribs) 10:49, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, forgot to sign. Darrman (talk) 10:50, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * What article is this related to? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:11, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

write an article
Dear friends :)

How can I write an article about musician?

Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janan Sorelo Levy (talk • contribs) 14:39, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Which musician are you planning to write on? In general, it's best to start writing an article in your Sandbox and receive peer edits there. You are welcome to ask me to come over and check your sandbox when you have written a substantial amount of information on your topic. --JustBerry (talk) 14:50, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Janan. Please take a look at our notability guidelines for musicians and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article. If you still think an article is appropriate, see Your first article. You might also look at How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:08, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, do a quick Wikipedia search on the musician you want to write about and see if you can add information to an already-written article --JustBerry (talk) 15:28, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Sandbox Comment
Sometimes the term sandbox is used to refer to user space, but that is not really the sandbox. A user's sandbox is erased periodically. User space is permanent, like article space, and an article can be moved from user space to article space when it is ready. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:00, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid it is you who are confusing the issue. "your Sandbox" generally refers to the link "Sandbox" at top of all pages for registered users who haven't disabled Add a "Sandbox" link to the personal toolbar area at Special:Preferences. The "Sandbox" link is enabled by default and that sandbox is not erased periodically unless the user does something to erase it. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:13, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

spelling
do you help spelling — Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs) 75.73.253.229
 * Hello. What do you mean by "help spelling"? Can you be a bit more specific? We would certainly appreciate help in fixing spelling here, at Wikipedia (but only for articles; don't fix other's spelling at talk or discussion pages such as this one). Note also that we prefer no particular variety of English so we don't want corrections, for example, of U.S. English into British English or vice-versa (color vs. colour). If you're looking for help with the spelling in something you've written, you might ask at the language section of the reference desk, but please note that we don't do people's homework for them.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:30, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I partly agree and partly disagree about regional spelling. "Color" should be changed to "colour" when referring, for instance, to the colours of the flag of the United Kingdom.  "Colour" should be changed to "color" when referring, for instance, to the colors of the flag of the United States.  Spelling should be consistent in an article, and, if the article is about a particular Anglophone country, in the appropriate variety of English.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:58, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * You may perhaps be looking for Wiktionary, the free dictionary. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:45, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Another possibility is that the OP is looking for some sort of spell-checking tool to use when editing Wikipedia. Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to that, as I find spell checkers a pain in the neck. Deor (talk) 17:02, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Table of contents
As of today, articles don't show their table of contents - I have to click on "show" to see the ToC. I'd rather have it the old way. Is there a setting for this? I looked in preferences but didn't see one. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 16:59, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm seeing TOCs. Is it possible that you've somehow unchecked the "Show table of contents" box in Preferences>Appearance? Deor (talk) 17:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * That is checked, but now it is back to the way it was. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 17:30, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Your latest [show]/[hide] click on a TOC is supposed to be remembered so the TOC on any other page starts in the same state. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:17, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah, yes, that is the way it behaves. Thank you.  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 19:57, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Oldest living WWII vets list. You have omitted my father, TonyVictor, he was born in 1916
You have omitted my father in the oldest living WWII vets list. His name is Tony Victor, he was born in 1916. He spent his working career as a social worker He is 96 and 1/2 in April 2013. He served un the Us air corps,  His dd 214 says his serial number was (Redacted). He was a Tech Sargeant. He wa drafted into the military on sept. 18, 1943 and discharged on Sept. 19, 1945. Call me if you need a copy of his DD214. I am his daughter, Margery Ruble. My phone number is (Redacted). My address is (Redacted).

Thank you in advance or correcting this. Please do it soon because one never knows what is his last day on earth.

Margery Ruble. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.98.251.13 (talk) 18:43, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Margery, at Wikipedia we believe in being a free encyclopedia and your feedback is much appreciated. As you may know, this website is run by volunteers and we ask that you give us time to try our best to resolve this issue. In the meantime, I will personally ensure that this information will be transmitted to the relevant department. Thank You. --Ordeerligg (talk) 19:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Could we get an admin to oversight this ladies phone nu, address and other personal information?  He  iro 19:10, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I am not an admin, but I have just telephoned Margery Ruble and she e-mailed the relevent documents to me. If an admin/or otherwise would like to contact me for the PDF files for Tony Victor please leave a messege on my talk page. --Ordeerligg (talk) 19:16, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Ummm, please never ever do that again. And go read WP:CITE, WP:RELIABLE, WP:OR and WP:PRIMARY now please.  He  iro 19:17, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Is there a sanction available for this? Ordeerligg totally violated the personal privacy of the OP in addition to giving blatantly misleading information about WP rules and procedure in their post. This is really serious and needs strong action. Wow! It's an un-freaking-believable violation! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:28, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Calm down Dodger, there's nothing extraordinary going on here. A person put some details on a website asking to be called, and Ordeerligg called them - to help out. It's not how we do it here, but there's no need to shout out requests for sanction. I've explained things to Ordeerligg on their talk page and Margery, if you're reading this - I'm afraid your father wouldn't be eligible to be included in List of surviving veterans of World War II, unless he is "notable" in his own right. By "notable", we mean discussed by multiple independent reliable sources. If I were you, I'd be happy he's not on Wikipedia... it's often more trouble than it's worth! Worm TT( talk ) 19:37, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I am new to Wikipedia and I have not read those specific rules. I apoligise and I e-mailed Margery an apology aswell. Thank you Dodger and Rowe for your kind words. --Ordeerligg (talk) 19:33, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think contacting another editor who invited contact is a violation of privacy of any sort. It's irregular, but I sense a massive over-reaction here. Bretonbanquet (talk) 19:36, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

DNFTT - reported at WP:ANI AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:38, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Andy. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Clostridium Perfringens
Dear Wikipedia,

I hope you can review and update the information posted on the Clostridium Perfrigens description. C. perfringens is actually a gram-variable bacteria with straight rods and blunt ends occurring singly or in pairs: spores are seldom seen in a gram-stain, but if present are large and central to sub terminal, oval, and swell cell: large boxcar shapes. Reference material I used is found in Chapter 44 of Bailey & Scott's twelfth edition of Diagnostic Microbiology with key authors: Betty A Forbes, Daniel F Sahm, and Alice S. Weisfeld.

Thanks for you time and efforts!

Most sincerely,

Reba M Lasseur — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.173.201.46 (talk) 19:18, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It is spelled Clostridium perfringens.   You can edit the article if you can provide a reliable source, or can discuss on the article talk page.    Robert McClenon (talk) 19:25, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Invisible template to flag for WikiProject attention?
So this may be a complex question, I hope I ask it clearly.

I am using WP:AWB to make lots of minor gnomish changes to pages within the scope of WP:FOOD. As I am doing so, I occasionally come across pages that need a fair bit of help. They may already be tagged with various issues, but as far as I can tell there isn't really a good way for me to flag these pages as being more urgently in need of attention by the WikiProject, or flagging for my own review later.

I know it would be pretty simple to create a non-displaying template that will add a category to a page. My question would be: is this okay under WP policy? Is it okay for me to create a maintenance category just for myself/the wikiproject? (e.g. Category:Food and drink articles needing urgent attention.

If the answers are Yes and No respectively, would it be okay for me to create such a template either in my userspace or in the wikiproject's space, and use 'what transcludes here' to fetch the list of flagged articles? — The Potato Hose 19:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Can't you use the  parameter of the project banner for this purpose? Please note, it's not that I know exactly how to do that, just that I believe it to be possible. But there's very probably someone here who does know to make it work if it isn't immediately obvious. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:13, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Hah, I am a derpy potato and forgot the important bit: it's annoying as all get out to flip between article and talkpages in AWB for that purpose, so I'm looking for something I can add to the article itself, somehow. — The Potato Hose 21:17, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * These sorts of categories should not be added to the article namespace. WP:FOOD's banner already populates Category:Food and drink articles needing attention (or a subcategory of that) when the  parameter is passed to the project's banner. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 21:24, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * See above. Switching back and forth in AWB is a PITA. What about the second scenario? — The Potato Hose 21:45, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Getting the folk(s) who wrote AWB to create an easy way to jump back and forth between article and talk page? -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:46, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

capcia solutions for blind users?
I was trying to create an account and am unable to because of the capcia. There does not appear to be an audio version. Is there an accessible way to create accounts? 184.166.5.13 (talk) 20:48, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The page Request an account explains a different way to create an account here. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:57, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Who do I contact to get a status update on a New Article submission
Please tell me how to get a status update on whether a new article I submitting one week ago has been approved? Thanks. EllenSheehy (talk) 21:13, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You will be notified on your Talk page as standard procedure, you don't need to do anything extra. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:26, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Your talk page (which hasn't been created yet) is User talk:EllenSheehy. I don't know how certain you are to be notified. It's safer to watch the submission page Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Word Network. As it currently says, it is waiting to be reviewed. You are allowed to edit the page further. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:24, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Articles for Creation also have their own specialist Help desk where you can get assistance directly from the people who do the reviews. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:02, 27 May 2013 (UTC)