Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 November 13

= November 13 =

Request for removal of User:Man4bep
The information on the page "User:Man4bep" is incorrect and needs to be removed immediately. It should be speedily deleted because Polo Molina is blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person that would require a substantial rewrite in order to become an encyclopedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Managerw (talk • contribs) 00:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ Fixed by TheRedPenOfDoom, whose edit summary‎ was "(blanking per FAKEARTICLE - single contribution of long dormant user)". -- John Broughton (♫♫) 04:28, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Article not showing in the deletion log
Hi! Like two months ago I post the article: Alfredo Cristalinas Kaulitz. It is a biography of a living person.

Today I found out it was deleted or missing. The deletion log doesn´t show anything. I also tried searching with my username. I don't know either who is the administrator.

I really appreciate if someone can help me out with this one.

My user is Fiscalizacionpartidos

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fiscalizacionpartidos (talk • contribs) 00:11, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * This post is the only edit your account has saved at the English Wikipedia. There has been a deleted page at es:Alfredo Cristalinas Kaulitz at the Spanish Wikipedia. Only administrators at the Spanish Wikipedia can see who created it and what it contained, so I don't know whether it was you. This help desk is for the English Wikipedia. If your post is about the Spanish Wikipedia then they have a help page at es:Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual. I don't know Spanish. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:28, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

military drones.
Hi there! According to Wikipedia Cyprus has military drones. (Cyprus is a Country). But i know Cyprus and i assure you that the only military aerovehicle that Cyprus has is a broken Harrier by the side of the road somewhere. An ornament and basically garbadge. So maybe Turkish Cyprus has military drones but Greek Cyprus does not. Wikipedia is filled with bullshit and i am not a cripple or a worm to waste my time on a computer. But perphaps you are so good luck with that all. Kind regards, Danny. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.207.78.111 (talk) 00:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Apparently you are, if you read our article. And how do you know the full extent of the military of Cyprus ? StuRat (talk) 01:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Here's a link: It clearly states that the Cyprus Air Force has Elbit Hermes 450 drones. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:03, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

How to edit the whole page
I want to edit a page thats been outdated more than 3-4years. Is it safe to edit by deleting the whole text and inserting what i wrote? or just simply adding/changing that needs an update. Also, is it safe to SAVE the content and go back and edit and SAVE again? or doing it all at once. I'm worried that it may be some sort of a violation or that it will be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoonchip (talk • contribs) 01:47, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * If the article really is of no use in it's current form, then yes, you could replace it entirely. But many times people just don't like the writing style or POV of somebody else and replace the article for that reason.  That's not allowed.  It would be better if you can keep as much of it as you can.  Perhaps if it's about an event that's constantly changing, like  a war, you could divide it into sections, one with the info as of then, and one with the current situation.  What is the name of the article in question ? StuRat (talk) 01:59, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the reply. The page I want to edit is a for a certain company, however I've read some news that it is a violation to edit for a living person and for a company which I may be related to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoonchip (talk • contribs) 02:01, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * yes, it is generally inappropriate to edit articles for which you have a conflict of interest, and a complete blanking an replacement would probably be seen as REALLY inappropriate. The best method is to make suggestions for changes by supplying relevant reliable sources on the talk page. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  04:07, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Also, please note that articles about companies are *not* just about what the companies do now. For companies, there generally should be a "history" section. Also, readers appreciate *comparative* information. So, for example, if the article says "Product X has 1 million users", and cites a 2009 article, you can (and probably should) change this to "Product X had 1 million users in 2009 ; by 2013 the number had increased to [whatever]. ". In short, it's often wrong to just delete "outdated" text, particularly text that is footnoted (has a citation). -- John Broughton  (♫♫) 04:25, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

whats a stub
whats the difference between a stub and..a normal article? if i click "expanding it" it just redirects me to the edit page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoonchip (talk • contribs) 01:51, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * A stub is a short article that needs to be fleshed out. StuRat (talk) 01:53, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * See more at Stub. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:24, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Template:Asbox reads: "This article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it." Clicking on the "expanding it" does not expand the article using the Asbox template from a stub to a normal article. Rather, when you click on the "expanding it" portion of Template:Asbox, it redirects you to the edit page to help Wikipedia by adding source text to the stub article to increase the amount of information in the article. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:30, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * "Expanding" a stub does not mean doing anything automatic, such as with a template. It means editing the article to add more information.  Anyone is welcome to add to a stub to make a longer article, as long as they follow the usual rules, such as use of reliable sources.  Robert McClenon (talk) 23:33, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

International page- how is it different
I want to make an edit on a page thats on two languages. meaning, theres an aritcle for English Wikipedia, and an aritcle for Korean Wikipedia. I already am a autoconfirmed user on English Wikipedia, but do i need to be an autoconfirmed user for the korean wikipeida? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoonchip (talk • contribs) 01:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * The rules for each different language are slightly different and up to the editors on those Wikipedias to decide. Each language is basically independent from one another.  So, it would be best to ask at the Korean Wikipedia about their own rules.  Dismas |(talk) 02:15, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * To edit, you don't need to be an autoconfirmed user, on any language version of Wikipedia. You can even edit without being registered, on any language version of Wikipedia. It's true that each language version of Wikipedia has their own rules, but it's also true that the Wikipedia - any language version - can be edited by anyone. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 04:19, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Always assuming that the page has not been protected, which might well require the user to be autoconfirmed. Arjayay (talk) 10:19, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Adding a category in an RfC
Hi, there's an RfC on Deafness | here about a cultural issue. The RfC is listed under Math, Science, and Technology but I think, since this is really about a cultural issue it should also be listed under "Society, sports, and culture." How do I add it to this category? I've never really done one of these, so I apologize for asking this dumb question. Thanks. Malke 2010 (talk) 04:24, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Change under the heading to .&#32;~HueSatLum 04:39, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Malke 2010 (talk) 04:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

What body style are these vehicles?
From our Mercedes Benz SL article i found these two pictures: Is anyone able to confirm that these are Saloon/Sedans or Coupes? And if they are both convertibles (One clearly is). There is no mention of the available body styles in the infobox or article. Thanks ツ Jenova   20  (email) 09:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * File:1999 Mercedes-Benz SL500.jpg
 * File:SL73.JPG
 * They both appear to be coupes. Although the talk page for the article is probably a better place to ask then here. And yes one is a convertible. XFEM Skier (talk) 20:27, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * If anywhere, i'd ask at Wikiproject Automobiles, but i thought this would be quicker. Thanks ツ Jenova   20  (email) 09:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Delinking specific part inside a template (that is otherwise normally to be linked)
Hi, I'm trying to get the pages on Danish rail transportation going. I've created a simple sandbox page for a train station here User:C4K3/sandbox, but I have a slight problem with the template S-line. See, it uses the Template:S-line/DSB_left/Sydbanen page to get info on the left-hand side for the terminus station. The problem is, this line has both a formal and actual terminus. I wanted the end result from the template to say Østerport station (formally Ringsted station), but I'm not quite sure on how to do it,  didn't work. I'm not 100% sure on how the templates work, so I might be doing it all completely wrong. Any help is much appreciated  Cake  ~ talk  12:35, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you asking to have the next parameter (the end result of the line from the template) in the Template:S-line/DSB_left/Sydbanen read Østerport station (formally Ringsted station? The usage page for Template:Infobox station indicates that it is the services parameter that allows inclusion of the s-rail/s-line boxes whereas you have them in the line parameter of Template:Infobox station. You are using Template:S-line/DSB_left/Sydbanen, but mention that your problem is with Template:S-rail. Also, you mention formal terminus and then note "formally Ringsted station." It would help to know how you want Template:Infobox station to read. -- Jreferee (talk) 12:57, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The services/line parameter in Template:Infobox station was a mixup. I have no problems with the Template:Infobox station template (unless it's causing problems I don't know of.)
 * No, the next parameter is displayed properly. Template:S-line automatically adds terminus stations to the end of lines based on the system and line parameter. In my case this leads to it using Template:S-line/DSB_left/Sydbanen to display as the terminus station below where the next parameter is displayed. Example: Melrose (Metro-North station) displays Grand Central Station based on [].
 * I want to change Template:S-line/DSB_left/Sydbanen to make it such that the text Østerport station (formally Ringsted station) is displayed Cake  ~ talk  13:11, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I think what you are saying is that you created Template:S-line/DSB left/Sydbanen to be transuded into a parameter of Template:Infobox station on the User:C4K3/sandbox page, but the Template:Infobox station parameter itself adds double brackets around whatever is placed in it, causing the displayed image in the User:C4K3/sandbox infobox to not be what you want. Is that what you are saying? -- Jreferee (talk) 13:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes and no. It has nothing to do with the Infobox station template. I made a separate page for just the s-line template, and the problem still persists User:C4K3/sandbox/s-line
 * The s-line template itself adds double brackets around whatever is placed in Template:S-line/DSB_left/Sydbanen, as well as station to the end (so that Grand Central in the template file becomes Grand Central Station). I want it so that User:C4K3/sandbox/s-line looks like http://imgur.com/dKjxRmh instead Cake  ~ talk  13:31, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * And I was hoping it was something that could be fixed in Template:S-line/DSB_left/Sydbanen Cake  ~ talk  13:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what you mean by a "formal terminus". Did you perhaps mean "formerly" rather than "formally"? - David Biddulph (talk) 13:03, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Officially, the line ends at Ringsted, and then the trains continue on Vestbanen. But this is a rather confusing way to divide the lines up, so it is commonly written as the line simply continuing Cake  ~ talk  13:16, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Jreferee pinged me about this. The way to accomplish this is to create an entry in displaying the desired variation on the station name. I've made an example entry there. Please drop a line on my talk page if you have any further questions. Mackensen (talk) 13:37, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

how to include a formatted wikipedia text file into wipedia
Hi, i don't know (i couldn't find) how to include a output script file with WIKI format in order that the appearance on the wiki shows it fine. if i create a page with this content on wikipedia it prints OK, but i want to reference the text file from wiki, because this file will change avery day, and i want something like "include (/PATH/TO/TESXTFILE/textfile)" and wikipedia prints with this same format than if i "write" the same code on a wiki page. 217.14.40.189) (talk) 12:39, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Why do you want to do this? Wikipedia articles are not meant to change daily as a matter of course - see WP:NOTNEWS, so you need to explain in detail exactly what page you want to add this changing section to and why. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * To reuse Wikipedia content in wipedia, see Reusing Wikipedia content . -- Jreferee (talk) 13:12, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Oops! I misread "wipedia". Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:47, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Shared account/Honorkid197
It seems that User:Honorkid197 is a shared account for a school project. My first impulse was that shared accounts are frowned upon by WP. I want to point that out to the "members" of the account without breaking their b____s, (so to speak). They have not committed any offense so I don't want to come on to strong. Is there a specific welcome available for accounts with shared users? ```Buster Seven   Talk  14:38, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * We don't have a specific welcome message, since such accounts aren't allowed, period. I've softblocked their account and told them how to register new accounts. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  15:51, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

WP:BLP
Perhaps this isn't even the place for this ... Just want some input from people familiar with BLP practices. Wanted to add Former Australian PM Julia Gillard to the List of atheists in politics and law: seemed a curious omission. Turns out there has been a revert war. The controversy surrounds her statement in an interview with Lally Weymouth for The Washington Post,, in which she says, "I think it would be inconceivable for me if I were an American to have turned up at the highest echelon of American politics being an atheist, single and childless." To my mind this is equivalent to saying that she is atheist, single and childless. Gillard has been removed from the list a few times, most recently with the explanation 'The statement referred to starts with ""if I were an American""... This is not consistent with WP:BLP.' So how does WP:BLP work? Is the only sentence that could be considered a self-identification as an atheist "I am an atheist"?Ordinary Person (talk) 15:24, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * You could use a different source, if people are being picky about the Washington Post's wording- this would probably suffice. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  15:39, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

question about adding a photo
I have a photo of my Dad with the Heisman trophy that I got from his files when he passed away. I cannot see how I can give you copyright information on it. The photo was taken at his home about 50 years ago. It has been used publicly over the years but always by him or by me. I want to put it on his wiki page. I have several other photos I want to use in the future. All were in his files when he passed. Frank Eliscu 1912 - 1996 NBELQ (talk) 16:18, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Using non-free content in Wikipedia requires meeting a variety of conditions. If you donate the photo, it will be much easier to use within Wikipedia. To donate, see Donating copyrighted materials. In general, uploading the photo to Wikimedia Commons is the easiest way to use the photo in Wikipedia. There's no reason to limit the photos to your dad with the trophy. If you have photos from his life (early life, career, family, work studio, etc.), please consider uploading those to commons as well as those may be used in the Frank Eliscu 1912 - 1996 as well. -- Jreferee (talk) 16:29, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Help on Two Topics
Hello, and thanks.

First, I'm trying to use the live chat and my computer won't allow me to type anything on the screen. Any suggestions as to the problem.

Secondly and more importantly, I need help on trying to move a thoroughly edited article out of my Sandbox. Could you advise me on this or send me to the right spot.

Thanks so much. Beth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeberlin (talk • contribs) 17:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I cannot help you with the chat, but I have place the Articles for Creation template on your page. When you are ready for the article to be reviewed, you can press the button.


 * Before you do so, you should probably look at WP:CITE and get the footnotes into a format that makes use of the Wiki markup. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  18:53, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

T. G. Shevchenko University
T. G. Shevchenko University is a double entry for a university that already has its own article (Shevchenko Transnistria State University). Can anyone help me with setting it up for the Articles for deletion list? --Rodislaw (talk) 17:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * That is NOT a good reason to delete an article, instead merge any useful content and then convert the page to a redirect. Any editor can do this, it doesn't require special rights. I see you have placed an AfD nomination. I urge you to withdraw it, because the redirect can't be done as long as the afd discussion is open. DES (talk) 17:27, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Newbie Advice (Please Help ?)
Hi folks,

I have just created a page entitled 'Monsterjazzlicks'. I had some questions and emailed Wiki at the beginning of the week but have as yet not received a reply. So I thought I would post my questions on the Forum. I am a rather basic user of computers and so need some help with setting up a few things please. I have read thru some of the previous threads here but either I can't find a solution or I am not able to follow the instructions.

So firstly, I would like to upload a couple of photos to the page. I can see the icon (I think) relevant to this task, however I do not understand how to upload the JPEG file(s) and place an incline on the page.

Ideally I would like my site-name to read 'monsterjazzlicks' but I believe the first character must start with a capital letter. Though I did read that it is possible to set it (in this instance) with a lower-case 'm' on my Profile Page. Again, I can not seem to make this work and so I wondered if anyone might be kind enough to take a quick check to see how it reads please.

Many thanks in advance for any assistance offered.

Best,

Paul David Seaman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monsterjazzlicks (talk • contribs) 18:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Paul, you seem to be laboring under a rather grievous misapprehension. User:Monsterjazzlicks is your user page: the place where you tell us who Paul Seaman a/k/a monsterjazzlicks is and why he is editing here. It's not a "site": Wikipedia is not Facebook or MySpace or any kind of social medium where you set up a "site" for or about yourself. Does that make anything clearer? -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:34, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * With regard to your question about images, you may find Images helpful. Note that Wikipedia can only accept images for which you are the copyright holder* and for which you wish to license the images for free public and commercial use. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  18:40, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * *under very specific conditions, some copyright materials can be used, but generally not for living people


 * There are, i think, several misunderstandings here. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia, it is not a social networking site. (See what Wikipedia is not.) The User page associated with your account (often called "your user page", but it isn't really "yours"), which is Monsterjazzlicks, is not "your site". It is intended to identify you and give some information about you that may be useful when others work with you on developing the encyclopedia. It should not be an online resume. It may be unwise to list your exact date of birth, as this can make identity theft easier, but that is up to you.
 * You can change your signature in your preferences to use a lowercase letter. You can enter this ins the "signature" section of the "User profile" tab of the preferenes page.
 * To upload files you must be "autoconfirmed" This means that you must have been registered for at least 4 days and made at least 10 edits. You may only upload images and other files that have been released under a free license, except in some very narrow cases. This means that you must have created the image yourself, or the creator or copyright holder must have released it so that anyone in the world may use it for any purpose, and may make modified versions of it. See File_Upload_Wizard. DES (talk) 18:44, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi guys,

Thanks very much indeed for the kind replies.

i am really not quite sure how/where to REPLY so i hope that this method is correct !! Apologies if not.

It says that i am not able to upload a photograph until i have been a member for (i think) four days.

Ta,

Paul — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monsterjazzlicks (talk • contribs) 00:15, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * You need to be an autoconfirmed user before you can upload photos. To become an autoconfirmed user you need to be a user for 4 days and have at least 10 edits. WP:AUTOC XFEM Skier (talk) 00:21, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Skier,

When you say i need to make 10 x edits, do you mean i need to have made 10 x edits to my own page, or 10 x edits (as in 'corrections') to other contribution here on Wikipedia ??

i managed to get my username to have a lowercase first letter on my own page !! Cheers.

Ta,

Paul

18:27, 9 November 2013 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page Jonathan Smith (music producer) (A7: does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)
The so called "importance or significance of the subject" is self explanatory through the article. Wikipedia staff should feel a shame for allowing a deletion of this nature to stand as valid.

Despite all of Jonathan Smith's EMMY Award Winning Achievements as it relates to his being recognized as one of Go-Go Music's Founding Father's (Instrumental in the shaping of Go-Go Music, Washington, DC's Indigenous Music Genre) having produced at one time or another (over the course of over 28 years) ALL of the DC's Major Rap Artist and Go-Go Musicians).  "Jonathan Smith (music producer)" is recognized and HIGHLY respected as the primary activist and Inner City Youth Advocate who was the Primary Individual Responsible for having had a major impact on stemming Washington, D.C.'s (which is only 37 mile wide) Street Violence and YOUTH on YOUTH Homicides during the 90's wherein over 400 Inner City Youth had been killed (Gun Downed) in less than ONE YEAR from drug and Gang related violence when Mr. Smith devised and implemented a plan to bring the killing to an end.  Although the killing did not stop completely (and was not expected to have), Smith's novel idea of bring together all of DC's Most Notable Musicians & Rappers (Respected by all of the Gangs) together (for the first and only time since) for the Stop The Violence LP And Music Video (The first Go-Go Video Production to air on MTV) "D.C. Don't Stand For Dodge City". His historically significant musical production was instrumental in casting a bright light on the issue which had been left ignored (because it was embarrassing to be happening in our Nation's Capital). The WASHINGTON POST article on Smith and his "D.C. Don't Stand For Dodge City" Featuring All of DC's National and Internationally Recognized Musicians was in fact Extremely SIGNIFICANT in awakening the City, Legislators and Nation to the Horrific Circumstance! ([SEE: Wikipedia.org Article: Go-Go Subheading Violence] While go-go's international profile was on the rise in the 1980s, go-go clubs in D.C. were acquiring a reputation for violence. In 1988, an all-star go-go band dubbed the Go-Go Posse recorded "D.C. Don't Stand for Dodge City," conceived, written, and produced by the "I Hear Ya Records" production team of Jonathan Smith, Mitch Bebbs, and Derral Johnson (also known as JJ&J) as an attempt to raise awareness and stop the violence.)

WHY WIKIPEDIA SHOULD BE A SHAME FOR ALLOWING THE Jonathan Smith (Music Producer) deletion to stand.

The problem has always been that situations "of this nature" and other important historical accomplishment of many Blacks is often Judged by individuals (like RHaworth who deleted the article) who are completely Non-qualified to speak or write on anything on behalf of or regarding the Significance of such achievements within the Black Community! The editor of the article (RHaworth) has Absolutely NO understanding of what is or what is not SIGNIFICANT when it come to elements withing the Black American Experience and his edits should be more closely scrutinized in that he hay very well be deleting other important articles related to our culture.

Another major problem and my objection with RHaworth's and Wikipedia's arbitrary deletion of the Jonathan Smith (Music Producer) article is that it is just another example of the Devaluation and Marginalization of the value of our "Inner City Youth's" Lives. There is no doubt what so ever in the fact that if White Children were the youth being Killed in one City at a rate and number more than that of U.S. Troops in War Zones, our citizen's would be OUTRAGED! And if someone (a notable award winning music pioneer) were to have devise a means which Drastically reduce the Youth on Youth Killings (Remember: We're talking OVER 400 in less than one year), that individual would be considered heroic. I'm certain the (Jonathan Smith (music producer)) article would not have been deleted as being considered: I N S I G N I F I C A N T "!  And it's such a shame that humanity has not yet come far enough along that this sort of thing (and it being allowed to occur) is no longer so commonplace. Cantthinkofonetouse (talk) 18:28, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The same criteria apply to all article subjects. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  18:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Wow, way to rant and to make presumptuous and condescending claims about who is "qualified" to write an article about the black community. I haven't seen the article, (because it has been deleted,) but I can say from experience that it is not uncommon for editors to write well-intentioned articles about significant people, then present the information so poorly as to leave readers in doubt as to the significance of the subject.  Is there a possibility that this was the case here?  After all, saying the article "does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject" is not the same thing as saying "the subject is not important or significant".  If you think you want to take a stab at improving the article, you can ask the deleting admin to put the article in your userspace so you can improve it and resubmit it.  But yelling at Wikipedia isn't going to accomplish anything. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:00, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * did you try to calmly discuss this with prior to coming here and complaining?  If you did and you don't agree with the out come then the next step is to ask for reconsideration at deletion review.  GB fan 20:09, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Problem with disambiguating a name with Vietnamese diacritics
When searching for pages that link to Le Chat, I found this article Lê Văn Duyệt. It links to Le Chat, but it mentions that he was Lê Văn Duyệt's deputy. I don't think this Lê Văn Duyệt person had a Belgian cartoon cat as his deputy. A Google search returned a link to a Google Books page that shows that this Le Chat person's name is properly written with some Vietnamese diacritics. Unfortunately I don't know any Vietnamese, and anyway that language is famous for its multitude of different diacritics, misspelling which can change the whole meaning of the words. So how am I supposed to disambiguate the link properly? J I P &#124; Talk 18:40, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * As we don't have an article on the Le Chat you are referring to, I'm not sure why it needs disambiguating. Disambiguation pages are an index of articles, not a definition of every meaning of a word. If you are writing a new article Le Chat (politician) might be suitable - many WP users cannot, or do not know how to, enter diacritics - assuming they know what the correct diacritics are. Arjayay (talk) 18:49, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It needs disambiguating because the link was going to the wrong place. The link Le Chat goes to a Belgian cartoon cat, not to a Vietnamese politician. If Le Chat had been a redlink itself then it would have been fine. Anyway I've now changed the link to Le Chat (politician). J I P  &#124; Talk 18:52, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah sorry, I now understand - but as we don't have an article on Le Chat (politician), and the red-link is unlikely to suddenly encourage someone to write one on an 1789 Vietnamese deputy, it would probably be easier just to delink it. Arjayay (talk) 18:59, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Mirror problem?
Where is the the right place to report this? If you find a mirror website that has text that may be of concern, what is the best place to go to? The website is Digplanet (example page provided). Look at the end. Or is this nothing of concern? Simply south...... cooking letters for just 7 years 19:47, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I believe, per WP:REUSE this is ok. They attribute the content of the page back to the wikipedia article it's taken from.  CaptRik (talk) 19:51, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The only issue I see is this statement at the bottom. "Copyright © 2009-2013 Digparty. All rights reserved." because only some rights are reserved on that page because of the SA portion of the Creative commons license (CC-BY-SA) used on Wikipedia, but as it is a mirror that directs you back to the free (as in freedom) source it is should be fine. If they were making derivatives and not allowing people to use is that would be a violation however. XFEM Skier (talk) 20:13, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The part which I thought might be of concern was "A portion of the proceeds from advertising on Digplanet goes to supporting Wikipedia.". Simply south...... cooking letters for just 7 years 20:35, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't see why that would be an issue. Commercial use is allowed and company are free to donate money to Wikipedia. Or is the concern with the use of Wikipedia. XFEM Skier (talk) 21:57, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Google show that statement in wide use. This page at digplanet.com links to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate, but does not expressly say that proceeds from advertising on Digplanet goes to the Wikimedia Foundation. Digplanet does not seem to have a specific interest in any particular topic, so any donated money probably is going to the Wikimedia Foundation rather than some place else. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:13, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Submitting a word and definition
What are the steps for me to follow to submit a word and definition to be added to Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.174.192.164 (talk) 21:01, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a dictionary. You should not submit a "word and definition". However if you can write an actual article about the concept or topic, and if that subject is notable and can be supported by citations to reliable sources then you may draft such an article. I suggest the use of articles for creation. DES (talk) 21:08, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, Wiktionary actually is a dictionary, so you might want to look there instead. Cheers! Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 21:11, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Do have a look at WP:NEOLOGISM though. If this word already exists and expresses a notable concept, thst's fine.  If t's a new word you've invented yourself, it's probably not suitable for Wikipedia. -  Ka renjc (talk) 08:09, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

sandbox
The following message is listed in sandbox:

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Warning: This page should probably be located at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/ School of Music of Indiana State University (move). ========================

Do I need to move my page?

Thanks Myisuwikiaccount (talk) 22:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * According to the page history "Anne Delong moved page User:Myisuwikiaccount/sandbox to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/ School of Music of Indiana State University: Preferred location for AfC submissions)" so it looks as if the suggested move was done more than 2 weeks ago. is one of the regulars at articles for creation. DES (talk) 22:14, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The space after "Articles for creation/" confused a template. I have moved the page to remove the space and the message disappeared. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I guess that was my error. Sometimes those little spaces are hard to see.  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 04:30, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Harold Naughton
Hi, I just literally spent 1.5 hours trying to upload an image onto your page because I am HORRIBLE at computers, but then when I got home someone had taken it down. I am literally on the verge of tears. I was so proud and now it's just gone.

I re-uploaded the image on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Naughton,_Jr.

PLEASE don't take it down. I know there was a copy right problem, but we are government employees. He is my boss and we are members of the government and have absolutely no problem with you using the work of our Commonwealth.

I'm literally begging.

-Laura — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lauracrowleygirl (talk • contribs) 23:20, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Harold Naughton, Jr. This article has an image, one that appears to be suitably copyright & license compliant. Are you trying to use a different one?-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  23:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Laura, as far as I can tell, you have correctly uploaded the image and placed it in the article. And it's a good image, thank you. (And I accept TheRedPenOfDoom's assurance that you have got all the tedious copyright stuff right.) The article is titled Harold Naughton, Jr., not Harold Naughton, Jr without the period/full stop – this would not matter to humans, but it matters to computers, and we all have to learn to cope with that. Maproom (talk) 23:42, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/Lauracrowleygirl confirms that you uploaded a deleted image commons:File:Hnaughton.jpg. And you did include the ending period in the url above, but our software omitted it when interpreting the url. We avoid such issues by making wikilinks like  which produces Harold Naughton, Jr.. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:29, 14 November 2013 (UTC)