Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 October 16

= October 16 =

Help with references
Please help me fix up the references for the page "Soir William Boews" Thanks Mike

Is the correct parameter |displayauthors= or is it |display-authors= ? The Cite template documentation doesn't agree with the CS1 errors documentation on that issue.
Help:CS1_errors and Template:Cite_book don't seem to agree about whether the new citation template parameter is called |displayauthors= or |display-authors= and that confused me while I was trying to update some bibliographies today. The results I got were not what was documented on the help page for the CS1 error message. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 00:24, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Answered at Help:CS1_errors. Please continue the conversation there.


 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 00:38, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Correcting Korean Director Kim Jee-woon's name
Hello,

I am an autoconfirmed user who is also working for the management company representing Director Kim Jee-woon.

I have been trying to correct his name (for his article title) and an error pops up saying: You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason: The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name, or use Requested moves to ask an administrator to help you with the move. Do not manually move the article by copying and pasting it; the page history must be moved along with the article text.

There apparently already is a wikipedia page with his correct name (Kim Jee-woon), however it redirects to the incorrectly spelled name (Kim Ji-Woon).

(I tried going through the [|Wikipedia:Requested moves] but couldn't figure out how to correct such an error.

I would much appreciate it if someone could get back to me with this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asong5 (talk • contribs) 00:37, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * There are many sources that use Kim Ji-woon, but the most common name used in English language reliable sources seems to be Kim Jee-woon. The article is and has been called Kim Ji-woon since 2005. At that time, IMDB listed him as Kim Ji-woon, but that appears to have changed. There was a failed effort to move the page in 2009. The article largely uses Jee-woon instead of Ji-woon. I deleted the Kim Jee-woon redirect page to make way for a move. There also is Kim Jee-Woon and IMDB lists it as Jee-Woon. A quick scan of the sources show Jee-woon (lowercase w) the most common usage and the article now uses Ji-woon (lowercase w). So if someone want's to second the move to Kim Jee-woon, I think we are good to go. -- Jreferee (talk) 02:38, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I'm the one who should second it, as my involvement in this is due to this and a request through IRC help, but I second it. I also kinda moved it before seeing this. Oops. Feel free to trout me for not having Future Sight. ~ Charmlet -talk- 02:43, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries on the move. I probably over analyzed it. Your moved actually seconded. What links here may need some cleanup. There also is Category:Films directed by Kim Ji-woon. -- Jreferee (talk) 02:52, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

How to change the article title?
I don't see a "move" option next to "edit". How can I change the title of an article? I would like to change it to be consistent with the Google+ page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellencici (talk • contribs) 00:48, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia names pages based on the most common name used in English language reliable sources. Thus, the Google+ page is not a consideration in determining article title. If you wish to try to argue the common name, please use the talkpage of the article. ~ Charmlet -talk- 00:53, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree with ~Charmlet. Please don't unilaterally move pages unless you've read and digested Article titles, the move would be consistent with that policy, and would be uncontroversial. That being said, the reason you could not move the page and see no option to do so, is because your account is not yet autoconfirmed having less than ten edits. The process for discussing a controversial page move is described at Requested moves.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:36, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't get a ping? See how far out of my way I go to give you a huge ping so you see it? On the subject at hand, it'd probably be easier to just ask on the talkpage and see who, if anyone, shows up, at least for a new user :) ~ Charmlet -talk- 03:40, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Unless there's some reason by context, such as that it's an older discussion, I see no reason to ping regulars on a recent thread like this one (and they don't need to ping me), as I assume they will be monitoring, just as I am and will be (and you actually were [and I just bet you will see this response without any ping, which proves the point]). I also don't see much need to ping other answerers at all, unless I am addressing the answerer directly. Regarding the page move, it really depends on what talk page we're talking about (and we don't know which one here, though it might be talk:Eucalyptus (software)). Vast numbers of talk pages are watched by almost no one and posting to it is like throwing a bottle into the ocean and hoping. Everyone should be informed of the process, in any event.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:53, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Point taken on the pings. And on the talkpage. But I'm not sure having everyone informed for all moves is smart. ;) ~ Charmlet -talk- 03:56, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean all moves should be done by informing everyone through a requested move, though I can see how my response might have parsed that way. I meant I think it's a good idea to inform everyone of the requested moves process as a vehicle for seeking the move, when they are asking about making a move that looks like it might be questionable.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:03, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

To answer your first point, the reason you do not see a "move" option, is that your account is not Autoconfirmed. To reduce vandalism(!), editors cannot move pages, or edit protected pages, until their account is at least 4 days old, and has made at least 10 edits. - Arjayay (talk) 08:15, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

United States Senate election in California, 2012
This article has been massively tampered with reflecting false election results according to the California Secretary of State official election results to show Elizabeth Emken obtaining nearly 48% of the vote when she only obtained 37.5% in actuality. The polling information on this page has also been severely tampered with. Please temporarily take this page down while the data can be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.7.244.57 (talk) 01:28, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

UPDATE: I was able to revert the changes that were made to the page to the original information. Please restrict access to this page to prevent further tampering. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.7.244.57 (talk) 01:32, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Vandalism was reverted. I have requested semi-protection for the page.  I suggest that User:68.7.244.57 register an account, because the semi-protection will apply both to constructive IP editors and to IP vandals.  Also, "taking a page down" due to vandalism is not what Wikipedia does, because anyone can edit to correct vandalism (except when the page is semi-protected, when any registered editor can correct vandalism.)  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:40, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Can someone please fix some edits I did on 3 articles about 3 different actors?
The actors names'are Aron_Eisenberg Natalie_Portman Mischa_Barton. Thanks. Venustar84 (talk) 03:48, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I removed the info at Aron Eisenberg per WP:BLPNAME. What fix do you need for your edits the other two articles? - Jreferee (talk) 04:22, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Why isn't the info about Aron_Eisenberg son suppose to be put on the page? I added that Mischa_Barton has a multiple cizenship. I also added portman is trying to get a french citizenship. Do the links I added count as a reference.  Thanks. Venustar84 (talk) 17:47, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion Flag
I am Rebecca Housel, Ph. D. A previous student created my page five years ago. At a recent Comic Con event where I was a moderator and speaker, a photographer who claimed to be a Wikipedia editor, known as "Nightscream" and the owner of several photos taken at the New York Experience Comic Con in June 2013, has made it his personal mission to vandalize my page after I removed a photo he replaced my original photo with. My original photo was approved by me for public use; his was not. As the page represents me, I have a right to remove photos that I find unbecoming or inappropriate, replacing them with photos that are more appropriate and/or convey a professional tone. (Redacted) felt my picture choice was "grainy" but this is Wikipedia, and the picture was a fair representation. It was actually quite a good picture and is available on Wikimedia Commons. This same Nightscream has tagged areas of common knowledge, citing that verification is needed, when in fact, it had been previously provided and removed. I have yet to look through the history, but it seems that this particular editor is using his personal feelings as the real reason for his tagging my page for speedy deletion, citing a number of Wikipedia rules, of course, but it's very clear that his need to tag my page came AFTER I removed his photo. I had asked him, personally, not to change my Wikipedia photo. He did so anyway.

Also, I am an author. I am an editor. I am a professor. I am a national speaker. I am a Wizard World Moderator. My clients include award-winning actors like Henry Winkler, Michael Madsen, James Hong, Sean Astin, Denis O'Hare, etc. Nightscream is using Wikipedia for his own agenda, attempting to cause problems simply because I asked him to not use a photo I did not approve, and to please not change my photo.

As the person the page is about, I have a right to take down photos I feel are inappropriate, replacing them with photos that are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmpressMatilda (talk • contribs) 05:24, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, that is not how Wikipedia works. As the person the page is about, you have less right than any other editor to alter its content: see Conflict of interest. And if (Redacted) owns the copyright of the photograph and has donated it to Wikipedia, he does not need your approval to place it in the article. If you have issues about the content of the page Rebecca Housel, you should discuss them at Talk:Rebecca Housel. Maproom (talk) 07:07, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The speedy deletion warning at User talk:EmpressMatilda was given towards the end of October 2009, not by Nightscream, and was removed 13 minutes later. The OP is somewhat confused. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:53, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello Professor Housel. I'm sorry Wikipedia's biography on you is causing you stress. I see what you mean about the prior photo previously posted and the updated photo you added. I opened a thread at COIN and would be happy to help you there. I also opened a thread at Graphics Lab. -- Jreferee (talk) 12:15, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Let's see if we can take these in order.


 * First of all, Dr. Housel, your accusation that I have "made it my personal mission to vandalize your article" is false, and this is now the second time you have made this false accusation, despite now having had it explained to you what vandalism is and is not. As I explained to you last month on the talk page of the IP you were using to edit the article, it is inappropriate to refer to the proper removal of unsourced material as "another editor's mess" or "irresponsible", and threatening to report them for "vandalism". Vandalism is an intentional disruption of Wikipedia, and does not refer to the rightful implementation of policies, simply because you do not like them. The truth is that your article was filled with violations of policies and guidelines and other problems, and you have persisted in violating these policies with your subsequent edits to the article, as evidenced by the fact that other editors have also noted violations of WP:COI, WP:NOTADVERT, WP:V and WP:PEACOCK in the article with these edits and their edit summaries:, , , , , , , , . That you continue to lob this false accusation, without falsifying or even responding to my response to it, is rather troubling, as it seems to indicate that you have no regard for the numerous Wikipedia policies and guidelines that I told you about, or for the open collaboration and communication that is required of the editing process here. I suggest you stop. If you continue to make this false accusation, I will report you to uninvolved administrators to have your accounts blocked.


 * Wikipedia is not your personal property, and neither is your article. It is the property of the Wikimedia Foundation, and you have as much entitlement to claim ownership or unilateral control over it as you do an article on World Book or the Encyclopedia Britannica. Just because Wikipedia gives you the power to edit it doesn't mean that you have the right to treat it like your personal curriculum vitae. That being said, the community will take a subject's feelings into consideration if that subject harbors some problem with its content, but there is a middle ground to be achieved between completely ignoring a subject's considerations and giving them unilateral control over the article. You were asked to pose for a press photo by me, and you consented, which indeed constitutes approval for public use. But in any event, Wikipeda is not required to have your personal approval to use photos of you taken in public, and I'm mystified as to where you got the idea that it did. The photo you insisted upon was indeed of extremely poor resolution, and thus, changing it to one with better resolution was perfectly reasonable, as is my practice after covering a public event like a comic con.


 * As for your second false accusation that I tagged the article for deletion, this is false. I did not place any such tag on the article. I do find it interesting that you state that I did this, "citing a number of Wikipedia rules, of course, but it's very clear that his need to tag my page came AFTER I removed his photo." Why is it that you acknowledge that others explain the rules to you, but you refuse to abide by those rules?


 * The fact is, it is you who are using that article for your personal agenda, namely to use to promote yourself. For you to then falsely accuse editors who are upholding Wikipedia policy and guidelines of using it to promote their agenda, is inane and best, and inexcusable at worst. I would suggest that you familiarize yourself with Wikipedia policies and guidelines, that you cease treating your article as if it's your own personal web page, and if you're going to make accusations against others, please do so only if you can provide evidence/reasoning that excludes other, less nefarious motives on the part of the people you disagree with. Failing to assume good faith on the part of other editors, and making personal attacks upon other editors, after all, is a violation of Wikipedia's policies, exceptions for which are not made simply because you are a professor who is friends with famous people and moderates discussion panels at comic book conventions.


 * I would also appreciate it if you referred to me by my Wikipedia username, as I generally do not use my real name in discussions with other editors. One of your edit summaries was already removed by a Wikipedia systems operator for this reason, as will the other appearances of my name on this page. Thank you. Nightscream (talk) 15:18, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * An active discussion has been opened at Talk:Rebecca Housel. Please respond there if you have an opinion.  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:39, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Create Wiki page for internal company only
Hi, Is it at all possible to set up a Wiki page with restricted access?

My idea is to use a wiki page to post information regarding an App we created for use within the company only. We would allow users of the app to discuss new and creative idea's on how they use the App and well as share tips and tricks to get the best out of it.

Kenneth Whyte — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kwhyte (talk • contribs) 11:06, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, certainly so, but of course that would be nothing to do with Wikipedia. You can read about Wiki software, and there are numerous further links from there. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:27, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The software that Wikipedia runs on is available (for free of course) at http://www.mediawiki.org - get your IT department to take a look at installing it on your intranet. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:37, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks. Most useful — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kwhyte (talk • contribs) 06:56, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Beauty Ngxongo's wikipedia page
HI

I would like help creating a Beauty Ngxongo wikipedia article, there a several blogs and websites that have mentioned her name when you google. Her work is famous across all nations but wikipedia hasn't recognised her. I just need guidance on how to create the article because my last 3 attempts failed.

Thanks you197.78.139.119 (talk) 13:00, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I suggest that you use articles for creation and first read My First Article. The essential question is whether this person is Notable, a term which Wikipedia uses in a special way. We consider a person (or a thing) notable when published works from reliable sources have in fact taken note of the person, have written about the person in some detail. Blogs almost never count as reliable sources, and many websites do not count either, depending on who publishes them and how. It is also important for a new article, particularly one about a living person, to cite sources to verify the content. See our policy about biography articles for more details. DES (talk) 13:43, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * To create an article about Beauty Ngxongo, you will need to establish that she is notable, in Wikipedia's sense. I am guessing that this is where your previous attempts failed. Someone will need to find mentions of her in reputable independent sources. These need not be in English, though here at English Wikipedia it is better if they are. Note that blogs do not count as reputable sources. However sources like this should be acceptable. Maproom (talk) 13:46, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Headline on NCFE page has been changed to Northern Council for Further Education - INCORRECT
The article NCFE's title has been changed to Northern Council for Further Education - this is incorrect as it is an out-of-date title - the company was once called Northern Council for Further Education until it became national, and its' name dropped any acronym completely (you can check this here: http://www.ncfe.org.uk/about-ncfe/history-of-ncfe. I have tried to change this back but the only part of the article I can't change is the title. This needs to be changed as it is misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NatashaBou (talk • contribs) 13:04, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * This move was made by User:DragonflySixtyseven less than a month ago. I suggest that you discuss the reasons with that user on User talk:DragonflySixtyseven, or perhaps better start a discussion at Talk:Northern Council for Further Education or requested moves, and let DragonflySixtyseven know about the discussion. Since the previous move left a redirect behind, an admin will need to delete that redirect if the move is to be reversed. An admin will most probably want to see some indication of consensus about this. Note that the official name of an organization is not the sole factor in determining the title of an article about it, see WP:COMMONNAME a section of our page about article titles. DES (talk) 13:51, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * As the previous page at NCFE was a simple redirect to Northern Council for Further Education, a move from the latter to the former didn't need admin assistance, so I've done it, & changed the lede to reflect the current title. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:55, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Mladina classification of nasal septal deformities
Mladina classification of nasal septal deformities

Nasal septal deformities in adults are very frequent. Some of them can be seen in more than 90% of the population. Ranko Mladina (born in Split, Croatia in 1949), an otorhinolaryngologist from Zagreb, Croatia, have published the article describing for the very first time all types of nasal septal deformities that can be usually found in man (Mladina R. The role of maxillar morphology in the development of pathological septal deformities. Rhinology 1987; 25: 199-205). Owing to this, a lot of papers have been published by various authors all over the world later on, all of them based on this classification. The classification describes seven types of septal deformities:

Type 1: Vertical anterior deflection of the septum, staying in a close contact to limen nasi, i.e. a part of the anterior nasal valve. Type 2: Vertical anterior deflection of the septum, staying in much closer contact to limen nasi,i.e. a part of the anterior nasal valve. Type 3: Vertical, more posterior positioned deflection of the septum staying in a neighborhood of the head of the middle turbinate. Type 4: “S” or “Z” shaped septum, i.e. type 2 on one side and type 3 on the other side. Type 5: It goes for unilateral, horizontal, slightly ascending spur. Other septal side is almost flat in most of the cases. Type 6: A deep, anterior, characteristic groove between the septum and the wing of the inter-maxillary bone on one side, and an anterior, basal crest at the corresponding level of the septum. Type 7: This type is a combination of previous six types. It usually goes for combination between some of vertical deformities (types 1-4) and horizontal ones (types 5 and /or 6).

Types 5 and 6 have been recognized as inherited deformities. Type 6 deserves particular attention since it has been showed to be very closely connected to the cleft lip/palate. Many people who have biffid uvula are carriers of the type 6 septal deformity. In addition, in some of them one can easily palpate the submucosal cleft of the hard palate!

References:

1. Mladina R. The influence of the caudal process on the formation of septal deformities. Rhinology 1989; 27: 113-119. 2. Mladina R. The influence of palato-cranial base (basomaxillary) angle on the length of the caudal process of the nasal septum in man. Rhinology 1990; 28: 185-189. 3. Mladina R, Krajina Z. The influence of the manner of the onset of injury and the direction of force on the development of traumatic deformities of the nasal septum. Zacchia 1990; 8: 31-42. 4. Mladina R, Šprem N. Relation entre les deformations du bord palatine du septum et le phenomene des angiectasies du plexus de Kiesselbach et des autres plexus veineux chez les patients avec des epistaxis a repetition. Symp otorhinolaryngol 1992; 27: 111-115. 5. Mladina R, Heinzel B, Bellusi L, Passali D. Staging in rhinosinusitis: septal deformities. Riv ORL Aud Fon 1995; 15: 7-16. 6. Verwoerd CDA, Mladina R, Nolst Trenite GJ, Pigott RW. The nose in childrenwith unilateral cleft lip and palate. Int J Ped ORL 1995; 32 (Suppl): 45-52. 7. Mladina R, Đanić D, Miličić D. Histological changes of the middle turbinatemucosa in various septal deformities. Riv ORL Aud Fon 1996; 3: 151-155. 8. Mladina R, Ostojić D, Koželj V, Heinzel B, Bastaić Lj. Pathological septal deformities in cleft palate children. L'Otorinolaryngologia Pediatrica 1997; 2-3: 75-80. 9. Mladina R, Miličić D, Đanić D. Septal deformities can influence the mucociliary transport impairment of the middle turbinate mucosa. In: Cilia, Mucus and Mucociliary Interactions. G. Baum, Z Priel, Y.Roth, N. Liron, E.j. Ostfeld, ed. Marcel Dekker, Inc., New York, 1998: 219-228. 10. Mladina R, Bastaić Lj. What do we know about septal deformities? J Rhinol 1997; 2: 79-90. 11. Šubarić M, Mladina R. Nasal septum deformities in children and adolescents: A cross sectional study of children from Zagreb, Croatia. Int J Ped ORL 2002; 63/1: 41-48. 12. Jurlina M, Mladina R, Dawidowsky K, Ivanković D, Bumber Ž, Šubarić M. Correlation between the minimal cross-sectional area of the nasal cavity and body surface area: preliminary results in normal patients. Am J Rhinol 2002; 16: 209-213. 13. Mladina R, Šubarić M. Are some septal deformities inherited? Type 6 revisited. Int J Ped ORL 2003; 67: 1291-1294. 14. Mladina R, Čujić E, Šubarić M, Vuković K. Nasal septal deformities in ear, nose and throat patients: An International Study. Am J ORL 2008; 29: 75-82. 15. Mladina R, Skitarelić N,Vuković K, Subarić M, Carić T, Orihovac Z. Unilateral cleft lip/palate children: The incidence of type 6 septal deformities in their parents. J Craniomaxillofac Surg. 2008;36:335-340. 16. Mladina R, Skitarelić N, Vuković K. Why do humans have such a prominent nose? The final result of phylogenesis: A significant reductionof the splanchocranium on account of the neurocranium. Medical Hypotheses 2009; 73-280-283. 17. Mladina R. Skitarelić N. Could we prevent unilateral cleft lip/palate in the future? Medical Hyptheses 2009; 73: 601-603. 18. Wee JH, Kim DW, Lee JE, Rhee CS, Lee CH, Min YG, Kim DY. Classification and prevalence of nasal septal deformity in Koreans according to two classification systems. Acta Otolaryngol. 2012 Jun;132 Suppl 1:S52-7. doi: 10.3109/00016489.2012.661077. 19. Chmielik LP. Nasal septum deviation and conductivity hearing loss in children. New Medicine 2006; 3: 82-86. 20. Rao JJ, Kumar EC, Babu KR, Chowdary VS, Singh J, Rangamani SV. Classification of nasal septal deviations-Relation to sinonasal pathology. Indian J Otolaryngol Head Neck Surg. 2005 Jul;57(3):199-201. 21. Min YG, Jung HW, Kim CS.Prevalence study of nasal septal deformities in Korea: results of a nation-wide survey.Rhinology. 1995 Jun;33(2):61-5. 22. Teul I, Zbislawski W, Baran S, Czerwinski F. Deformation of the nasal septum in children, adolescents, and adults in Western Pomerania province of Poland. Eur J Med Res. 2009 Dec 7;14 Suppl 4:244-7. 23. Zielnik-Jurkiewicz B, Olszewska-Sosińska O.The nasal septum deformities in children and adolescents from Warsaw, Poland.Int J Pediatr Otorhinolaryngol. 2006 Apr;70(4):731-6. Epub 2006 Jan 31.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.53.104.110 (talk) 14:26, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * If you are submitting an article, please visit Articles for Creation. This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. drewmunn talk 14:36, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Help me
my name is Saeed Ahmad and i want to create account on wikipedia but it says that someone already have account with this name. i don't want to create account with any other name. what can i do now??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.120.246.7 (talk) 15:11, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Saeed Ahmad is not registered. What exactly does it say when you try to register it? Ross Hill  ( talk ) 15:12, 16 Oct 2013 (UTC) 15:12, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Account creation error

The name "Saeed Ahmad " is too similar to the following username : Saeedahmad Please choose another name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.120.246.7 (talk) 15:19, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * As User:Saeedahmad has made no edits, try reading WP:USURP. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:31, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, you can Request an account. Certain editors with account creator right will be able to create the account named "Saeed Ahmad" for you. ···V ani s che nu (mc/talk) 18:40, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Carlisle
For your page on Carlisle, Ohio, you have the wrong Mayor listed. The Mayor, elected in the fall of 2011 is Randy Winkler. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.100.12.42 (talk) 17:08, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * If you could provide a source, the change can be instated. drewmunn talk 17:16, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I've updated the infobox per the village's Web site. Deor (talk) 19:25, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Not Sure if my article was submitted for review
Hi, I'm pretty sure I just submitted an article for Rukkus.com (the title of the article is Rukkus) but I didn't receive any confirmation. How am I supposed to know if this went through? This should be made more clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CraigKleila (talk • contribs) 17:26, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Special:Contributions/CraigKleila shows that the only thing you've ever submitted to Wikipedia, at least with this account, is this question. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:34, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Similarly, there is no record of an article entitled "Rukkus" or "Rukkus.com" in the Articles for Creation log (either pending or denied). drewmunn talk 17:37, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * However there is an existing article Rukkus about a professional wrestler. Maproom (talk) 22:34, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Which shows no evidence of any attempts by the OP to retool it for Rukkus.com. Confusion abounds... drewmunn talk 07:10, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Lana Clarkson images
Hallo ! Im having a little problem with some Wikipedia article regarding late actress Lana Clarkson. Yesterday I've tried to upload two photos of Lanas to her wikipedia article but somehow I was unable to upload these photos ! Two pictures of Lana Clarkson one with her smiling taken in 2002 and another one taken at her gravesite simply did not show up on her page. I believe I did my best with my limited experience that I have ! Im not a person with much experience with editing or adding photos here but I really wanted to add two photos of late actress Lana Clarkson to her wikipedia page and there was no success ! If someone have has more skills with photos on wikipedia please go to "Lana Clarkson wikipedia article page and fix these two photos that I tried to upload, you will see it when you go to her page then under Carrer and Death in her article should be two photos. Thank you so much to any person or persons who will find time to fix this problem ! Thanks again ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.251.184.172 (talk) 18:42, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi. You haven't uploaded any photos, I'm afraid, which is why the filename you've placed in the Lana Clarkson article is showing red.  You're editing as an unregistered user and people can't upload images to Wikipedia themselves unless they create an account, wait four days and have at least ten edits.  If you own the copyright to your images then you can upload them to Wikimedia Commons without waiting, but you'd still need to create an account.  Alternatively you can go to Files for upload and ask for them to be uploaded for you. There's more information at Uploading images. -  Ka renjc (talk) 19:02, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Changing an article and verifying information
Hello,

I am a campaign worker in NYC and need to make changes to an article regarding a political figure. I have manually entered changes to the article, but they have not remained.

How can I make permanent changes to an article? What sources do I need to verify the changes so that they are deemed credible?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.248.43 (talk) 20:58, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * There are several issues here. In general you need to provide a Reliable source particularly for articles about living people, see our policy on such articles. For the change of birth date that you attempted, cite a reliable published source that gives the date. Simply changing things without providing a source may well be changed back (reverted).
 * But more importantly, you say that you are a "campaign worker" making changes to an article about "a political figure". This pretty much guarantees that you have a conflict of interest, and must follow the restrictions that imposes. You should declare your conflict (it is much easier to do this is you register an account and log in) and usually suggest edits rather than make them yourself. This is particularly true if you are a paid worker who edits here as part of your employment. You also need to read our policy on the neutral point of view. DES (talk) 21:10, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I should add that no change to any article is truly "permanent", because any editor can change it at any future time. This is what happened to your changes, they did not magically expire, an individual editor undid or revised them. DES (talk) 21:14, 16 October 2013 (UTC)