Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 October 17

= October 17 =

Santa Fe Springs burial
I'm trying to find someone buried in santa fe spring all i have is santa fe springs can you help me find this person --2601:9:7380:484:9824:54AC:892:6CAB (talk) 04:05, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello, the Wikipedia Help Desk is for general questions about how to use Wikipedia, not how to locate the deceased. As a courtesy, I'd recommend you use Google Maps, locate cemeteries in Santa Fe Springs, and call each one.  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:28, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Find a Grave may be an option. -- Jreferee (talk) 15:41, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

spelling
How can I search if I don't know the correct spelling for the word? Yteneres (talk) 05:17, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Do you have an Android phone? Try Google's voice search.  Or sometimes your mobile device's autocorrect will help, or you could try to type the word in a Word document and run a spelling check for alternatives, or you could try to spell the word phonetically at Dictionary.com, or you could have tried to describe the word here, or...  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, just typing your best guess into Google usually works; because of the huge volume of searches it gets, it is in some aspects a better spellchecker than Word.&#32;~HueSatLum 21:30, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * If you know other words that would likely be in the article (particularly combinations of words that would not be in other articles) you can put them in the search box and press "search" rather than "go". It will bring up a list of article that have those word combinations and your target article may be in there. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  21:33, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Bogo City - Wikipedia, the free Encyclopedia
Sir/Madam,

Good day! I'm concern with the accuracy of the publication as it is one of the source material for students. I would like to request your great help to correct the Reference No.1: "Municipalities"...should be change to: "Cities" Quezon City, Philippines: Department of the Interior and Local Government.And other additional reference to posts: www.dilg.gov.ph/cities.php and manilastandardtoday.com/2013/09/08/remembering-one-of-the-greatest-the-flash-elorde-story/

Thank you very much.God bless to all Wiki staffs.

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.248.67.34 (talk) 07:05, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I have updated the reference on Bogo, Cebu to point to the URL you gave. You could have done this yourself, or if you did not feel able to, the talk page Talk:Bogo, Cebu would have been a better place to report it. ✅ --ColinFine (talk) 17:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

MIS PRINT ON BRANDON MARSHALL!!!!
Hello I am writing reguarding the profile of Brandon Marshall and which states he is a a Chinese Prositute for the Bears! profile states"

Brandon Marshall is a Chinese Prostitute for the Chicago Bears of the National Football League. After playing college football for the University of Central Florida, he was selected by the Denver Broncos with the 119th overall pick in the fourth round of the 2006 NFL Draft. He has also played for the Miami Dolphins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.26.214.163 (talk) 08:18, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * That vandalism was reverted one minute after it was added. If you're still seeing it, try clearing your browser's cache. Deor (talk) 08:27, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Two articles with same name
Sarfaraz khan is about an actor and Sarfaraz Khan is about a historical figure. Can someone with more tech savvy than me sort this out? I imagine the first of these needs to be renamed 'Sarfaraz Khan (actor)'. Many thanks. --Viennese Waltz 11:47, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  13:08, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Should be a disambiguation page
I think this should be a disambiguation page, but I can't see why it isn't (the actual disambiguation page redirects here) or how to change it.--Shantavira|feed me 11:48, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * It is already a disambiguation page, and is correctly named (and correctly with a redirect from the alternative name), see WP:DABNAME. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:10, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Table format problem
Is anyone good enough at table syntax to fix this edit? Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 11:52, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Is that to your liking ? Thanks ツ Jenova   20  (email) 12:38, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jenova! Needed a tad more tweaking but looks good now. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 13:09, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Glad to be of use! ツ Jenova   20  (email) 14:08, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

watchlist for a specific section?
A feature of watchlist for a specific section, would be useful for sub-articles on pages such as help desk, WP:ANI and WP:RS/N.

The reply was negative on 2010.

is there a (hopefully) positive reply by now? Ykantor (talk) 13:49, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Nope. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  14:06, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * thank you. Ykantor (talk) 20:46, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Etretat
I am not able to edit wikidata. I would like someone to link zh:埃特雷塔 to wikidata of en:Étretat. Thanks!--辛庚己戊 (talk) 14:03, 17 October 2013 (UTC) And please link zh:I24news to wikidata of en:I24news as well. --辛庚己戊 (talk) 14:22, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ uhhlive (talk) 16:22, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * APPRECIATE--辛庚己戊 (talk) 15:39, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki API: Orphan pages
I also asked the question on MW site, but seeing the page was untouched for 3 years, I guess I would also ask here.

Is there a way to get a list of Orphan pages using the MediaWiki API better than simply list=allpages and then checking list=backlinks on each on them? - 129.255.226.253 (talk) 14:04, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Obviously someone is still watching that talk page. Got my answer. - 129.255.226.253 (talk) 14:10, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Navbox on other pages
After creating a Navbox for Old Crow Medicine Show, I've tried putting it at one of their album pages: O.C.M.S.. I don't know what I might be doing wrong, or why it's not appearing there. Any and all assistance appreciated on this. Thanks. .--Artaxerxes (talk) 14:22, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You just added a navbox to the band's article by using Navbox musical artist. If you want to make a navbox template that you can transclude in other articles, you have to do it in template space, by creating a page at Template:Old Crow Medicine Show. You can just paste the navbox code you've already added to the band's article to create that page, then add to any article in which you want the navbox to appear (including the band's article). Deor (talk) 16:31, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Russian language Wikipedia
How to open information on Russian language? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.185.153.4 (talk) 15:42, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Russian language Or Russian Wikipedia?
 * In Soviet Russia, Wikipedia edit YOU... ツ Jenova   20  (email) 15:55, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Question about my father
How do I change the title of an article about my Father? He is listed as John S. Hunt lll. He should be John S. Hunt ll. I would like the title to be his full name- JOHN SMOKER HUNT ll Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucysmoker (talk • contribs) 15:53, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * We use what we refer to as the subject's common name for article titling. It is likely that the article you refer to is named as such because that is how the subject is known ("S" rather than "Smoker"). As far as adjusting the generation identifier, if you could provide us with a suitable, reliable source that proves he is the second rather than the third, we can change it. drewmunn talk 16:46, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Do we have a reliable source to say he is the third? I'm just asking because i couldn't find the article, although admittedly i put little effort into the search as i was busy. Thanks ツ Jenova   20  (email) 17:00, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The article is at John S. Hunt, III (with a comma). - David Biddulph (talk) 17:12, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Somebody (an IP address) has changed III to II in the text of the article today. After some effort, I have found a reference which lists "John Hunt II" (the Boissier Press-Tribune reference) and on the strength of that, I have moved the article. I observe that many of the references given in the article are inadmissible, being searches of unpublished data such as death records. Several of the references are to newspaper articles from the 60's, and these may be solid enough to establish notability. I also observe that the article is an orphan (even Minden, Louisiana doesn't link to it, and nor does Huey Long). --ColinFine (talk) 17:59, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I have changed the handful of pages that still linked to "John S. Hunt, III" rather than "John S. Hunt, II" to now link to the II rather than the redirect to avoid confusion in the future.Mandra Oleka (talk) 10:15, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

User pages and Google
Dear editors: I have been doing some Google searches while reviewing articles in Wikiproject Articles for creation, checking to make sure that submissions are not copied from web pages. Sometimes I find that a mirror site has picked up the submission from Wikipedia talk: or User: However, lately, it seems that Google has been picking up some user pages directly; for example, a search for this text: "Based on client feedback, he concentrated" resulted in this result:. I thought that user pages were all marked as "Noindex". Am I mistaken about that? By the way, Afc has been receiving a new submission about every five minutes all week, so if there are more requests than usual for help from new editors at this forum, that may be why. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 18:26, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I had to mark my talk page with noindex. I had a little bit of Internet access the other day and I searched for Miss Bono and my pages appeared so I added the noindex.  Miss Bono  [hello, hello!]  18:43, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * userspace draft adds noindex to a page, and I think the AfC templates do so also, and so does user page, but I don't think user or user talk are automatically noindexed. DES (talk) 20:14, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Do you know if it matters where on the page the NOINDEX is located?   Also, I looked at several userspace drafts, but didn't see a NOINDEX.  Is it hidden somehow?  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 21:25, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * No, it can be anywhere on the page, and it is on line 7 of the userspace draft template.&#32;~HueSatLum 21:35, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * user page does not add noindex by default. It only does this if you use . Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 02:22, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay; the NOINDEX is hidden because it is inside the Userspace draft template. Sticking one of those on a user page should lead to Google removing it from the index the next time the page is "crawled".  Correct? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 04:06, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

'about me' page
hi can you please change me page as it has no relvence to what i'm actually doing

alex khateeb

and my web site is www.circuit-art.co.uk

please go to the the about me page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.161.75 (talk) 18:33, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia doesn't have 'about me' pages. Which page are you referring to? AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:38, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I think he is referring to the about me page of his web site.  Miss Bono  [hello, hello!]  18:46, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah, that makes sense. We have an article on Alexander Khateeb, the racing driver - clearly the same person. It does seem to be rather out of date. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:50, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * And two of 'External links' are obsolete. --CiaPan (talk) 14:24, 18 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I've changed one of the external links (replacing it with the deeper page on the website, as suggested, which is his bio). More generally (Alex, if you're still there) - the best place to post suggestions for improving the article is at Talk:Alexander Khateeb. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 03:35, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Articles created in main-space despite being rejected at Articles for creation
Is there any sanction/control when an article which has been rejected at Articles for creation, is pasted directly into main-space, without any attempt to address the reason(s) for rejection at Articles for creation? If not, why not? as an ability to simply side-step a rejection at Articles for creation, makes a complete mockery of the entire process. Arjayay (talk) 19:50, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The only "sanction" is that such articles are immediately subject to new page patrol, and may well be promptly deleted. Contributors are warned of this. AFC is designed to help contributors write good articles, or at least ones good enough not to be deleted at an AfD. No one needs to use it, anyone can register an account and add an article directly. AFC Is not a "guardian of the gates". The goal of AfC is to make it easier for contributors to learn how to write acceptable articles. If a contributor chooses to reject that help, so be it. An article rejected at AfC will quite probably be deleted if not improved in a way which would have caused AfC to accept it, but you never know. If others made edits while a draft was on AfC, then a copy&paste move may at least technically violate attribution, and a history merge should be done, just as with any C&P move. If there was only one contributor of content (not counting reviewer's notes), and that person pastes to mainspace, that issue is unimportant in my view. DES (talk) 20:10, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * This happens a lot. My response is to decline their AfC submission as created if it's been submitted, and treat the newly created page under NPP standards - and I'm a pretty harsh new page patroller, honestly. I've also noticed it happens more with lackluster submissions than anything else. Would it be inappropriate to speedy their draft (submitted or otherwise) as 'user self-created page outside of AfC process'? -- T K K ! bark with me if you're my dog!  20:47, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * A copy-paste fragment left in Afc, if submitted, should be decline as "Exists in mainspace". Then we wait a while.  If the mainspace article is deleted by the NPP, the editor may very well come back and start working on it again.  If, after a while, it appears that the mainspace article is surviving, then the history of the draft is examined.  If there's a lot of history, with either multiple authors or over a substantial length of time, then a history merge should be performed to reconnect the two parts.  If the draft is just a few diffs by one author, then it can be deleted as a G6 (Housekeeping), since all of the useful material is in the mainspace article and the history is too trivial to bother merging.  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 21:12, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

how can I edit my user name?
How can I edit my user name? The software automatically capitalized the first letter "J" and I don't want that.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesselashcraft (talk • contribs) 22:01, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The first letter of every user name will always be capitalized. But you can change your signature. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  22:09, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * (e/c) In the most technical sense (which I'm not sure is the heart of your question), you cannot. The software will not allow a title, including an account name, to be created with a lowercase first letter. However, there are two things you can do. First, you can make your user and usertalk pages appear as lowercase, by placing on them the template . Second, in non-article discussion pages such as this one, you should sign your posts by typing four tiles ( ~ ) after your post (you forgot to here), which will automatically turn into your signature, with a time stamp, when you save. You can place the tildes without typing them out by clicking on the signature button (Insert-signature.png or Signature icon.png) located above the edit window. You can customize your signature so that it will display as lowercase. To do this: go to Special:Preferences; scroll down to "Signature"; make sure the box next to "Treat the above as wiki markup" is ticked, and paste into the field above it: . Then save your changes. If you do that, your signature will display as jesselashcraft (talk). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:21, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * And you can force your user page to display with a lower case first letter by adding the lower case title template to it (also works on user talk pages).--ukexpat (talk) 14:19, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Format for initials
If a biography identifies a subject using two (or more) initials, should there be a space between the period and the next initial? My instinct says not, but I've just come across an article with the space. I have looked in the MOS, but to no avail.TheLongTone (talk) 22:30, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * @TheLongTone:  Hey TheLongTone I recommend placing the spaces. Check out List of literary initials to see that this is our current house style (even if not specifically addressed anywhere in the manual of style). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:35, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the prompt reply. Even if I disagree!TheLongTone (talk) 22:37, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * See WP:INITS.&#32;~HueSatLum 22:40, 17 October 2013 (UTC)