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= October 20 =

I have info about claims made in a Wikipedia article; unfortunately it's OR. What can I do?
While researching the origin of Johnny Marzetti for the eponymous article (of which I am a frequent editor), I contacted the T. Marzetti company for information. I received a response (on August 19th of this year) essentially disavowing any knowledge of the dish. I quote that response in its entirety (having redacted the salutation and closing) here:

Thank you for contacting T. Marzetti Company with your inquiry about the History of the Johnny Marzetti Casserole.

''Unfortunately, we are unable to confirm the origin of the Johnny Marzetti Casserole. The restaurant had three locations. The first restaurant opened in 1896 on the Ohio State Campus. The second restaurant was located at 59 E. Gay Street from 1919 – 1942. Lastly, the third restaurant was located at 16 E. Broad Street. The Broad Street location closed when Teresa died in 1972 at the age of 92.''

I'd like to incorporate this information into the article, particularly as other sources cited in the article make claims that are inconsistent with this. Unfortunately, this emailed response to my query is, essentially, original research.

Any ideas on how I could proceed?

Mark Shaw (talk) 02:04, 20 October 2013 (UTC)


 * - The "other sources" in the article which yo mention are exclusively pages at ohiohistorycentral.org, a website published by the Ohio Historical Society. You might send on the information you've obtained to the Society, and ask them to consider changing their website pages accordingly. However, I will note that "unable to confirm" is not the same as mean "untrue"; in this case, it seems to me to mean "There isn't anyone here who knows anything." So perhaps a more fruitful approach would be to ask the Society what sources they used to write their pages, rather than to suggest that they are inaccurate.


 * Also, may I suggest you look at WP:REFB - the format of the footnotes in that article is terrible. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 03:56, 20 October 2013 (UTC)


 * , your email parallels this March 2013 news article. This article notes that Marzetti's restaurant was located on the ground floor of the Hayden Building on E. Broad from 1940 until it closed in 1972, meaning the E. Broad location of Marzetti's restaurant did not begin in 1896, contrary to this article, which states that Teresa Marzetti opened a restaurant on Broad Street in Columbus, Ohio, in 1896. Several sources point to the 1896 Marzetti's restaurant not being opened on Broad Street but instead being opened on the Ohio State Campus. -- Jreferee (talk) 11:47, 20 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much for the help with this. I think I have enough info and advice to proceed now. Mark Shaw (talk) 16:23, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Contact
i want make contact my dear one in your country,i am a father,how you can help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.194.132.74 (talk) 10:42, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * This is for help about Wikipedia. We are not a social network connecting service. You may wish to contact your local embassy officials. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  15:56, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Also — when you are addressing an international audience, and you write "your country", it helps if you specify which country you mean. Maproom (talk) 20:16, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Searching in Wikipedia
can i search about any information in wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.100.165.91 (talk) 12:07, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes. The search box is at the top right of this, and every, page. Dismas |(talk) 12:45, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, that's really only useful in searching for titles, not in searching contents. For that, Google often works better. Looie496 (talk) 16:05, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The Search function searches on more than just titles. If it finds an exact match for a title, it takes you right there; otherwise, it searches on content as well. To force a search on content, precede your search with a tilde (~). For more details, see Help:Searching. --Larry (talk) 17:40, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Anisa Moghaddam
I recently wrote an article called "anisa moghaddam" (Songwriter who wrote "Piano" for "Ariana grande" on her hit album 'Yours truly').

When I log in to my wiki account I can see the article but when I type her name into google I don't see the wiki article.

How do I know if the article is live to the public? Does it need to be checked by wiki first before being made available to the public?

I would also like to create a link from the article "yours truly" to the article "anisa moghaddam", but when I try to edit the "yours truly' article and type in 'anisa moghaddam", wiki tells me the 'anisa moghaddam' article does not exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anisa moghaddam (talk • contribs) 18:15, 20 October 2013 (UTC)


 * There is no article called Anisa Moghaddam. You have created a page User:Anisa moghaddam (note lower case M) which is not an article but your own user page. Wikipedia does not like people creating their own pages, because it is a WP:Conflict of interest. Although, superficially, your article appears referenced, most of these references are to Facebook, YouTube, or Wikipedia itself, none of which are WP:Reliable sources.  You need to prove you are notable, as set out in Wikipedias notability guidelines before your article can be accepted. Arjayay (talk) 18:50, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I looked for information on Anisa Moghaddam, but did not find any. Her user page article links to a Music of Black Origin Awards article, a SB.TV article, and a RWD Magazine write up, so it not completely out of the possibility of having an article on her. Those articles only refers to her as Anisa, so it might be hard for others to find articles on her if she only goes by her first name. I'm going to move it to article space and list at AfD. -- Jreferee (talk) 02:17, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I just reread OP's post, which reads "when I type her name into google", meaning that OP is not the Anisa Moghaddam who is the subject of the draft. I'm not going to move the user draft to article space. -- Jreferee (talk) 02:49, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

What to do with this article?
After looking at the article P. P. Hammer and his Pneumatic Weapon, which I originally started, I found the article The Real Ghostbusters (Video Game) (current title). Wikipedia can't seem to make up its mind what this article is called. It's apparently essentially the same game, under three different licences separately: Ghostbusters, Garfield and Mickey Mouse. There are no less than five different redirects to this article: Garfield Labyrinth, The Real Ghostbusters (1993 videogame), Mickey Mouse IV: Mahou no Labyrinth, The Real Ghostbusters (1993 video game) and Mickey Mouse IV: The Magical Labyrinth. At the current state it even gives its introduction as:
 * The Real Ghostbusters (ミッキーマウスIV 魔法のラビリンス Mikkī Mausu Fō: Mahō no Rabirinsu), known in Europe as Garfield labyrinth and in North America as The Real Ghostbusters

which has a conflict between the English and Japanese renditions of the name, as well as saying tautologically "The Real Ghostbusters is known in North America as The Real Ghostbusters".

In my opinion, naming the same video game and the same Wikipedia article after three different licences is a hopeless mess. I have suggested merging this article to P. P. Hammer and his Pneumatic Weapon, which the game is apparently based on. Is this a good idea? If this can't be done, what can be done to stop the confusion in this article? J I P &#124; Talk 19:51, 20 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The one thing they have in common is the licensor (Kemco?), and their initial efforts in this area would be the major topic, which could be in an article of its own and detail the three different licensing efforts. Summary style could be used to determine whether any major subtopic should go in a separate article of its own. How the reliable sources chose to write about a topic largely drives how it might be treated in Wikipedia. If they are writing about The Real Ghostbusters (Video Game) with no mention of P. P. Hammer and his Pneumatic Weapon, should the The Real Ghostbusters (Video Game) source material be used to write about P. P. Hammer and his Pneumatic Weapon? -- Jreferee (talk) 01:57, 21 October 2013 (UTC)


 * So should the article be moved to a generic name which has nothing to do with any of the three licences, and be rewritten to signify that essentially the same game was used in three different licences, and the game is based on the earlier game P. P. Hammer and his Pneumatic Weapon? This would also mean that the article should be moved to a more generic category, and all categories and navboxes related to specific licences should be removed from the article. J I P  &#124; Talk 19:57, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The article(s) should reflect the collective of the source material on the topic indicates. Because you think it's apparently essentially the same game, under three different licenses, does not mean the reliable sources wrote about the topic(s) in that way. -- Jreferee (talk) 03:07, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

how to add name on wikipedia
how to add name on wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.242.56.158 (talk) 20:01, 20 October 2013 (UTC)


 * What name? Where? AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:03, 20 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you are looking for Your first article? -- John of Reading (talk) 07:06, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

my account
please close my account at the end of my 6 months22:51, 20 October 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.46.220.140 (talk)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:55, 20 October 2013 (UTC)