Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 October 23

= October 23 =

creating an new article with unique page name
How do i create a new article with a unique page(article) name? i do not want the article page name to be identified as "user:kwilliams99", rather than to the unique article or bio name itself on top of the article page.

Karen Williams — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kwilliams99 (talk • contribs) 00:17, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Try this link, User:Kwilliams99/Unique article name or User:Kwilliams99/Stephen Clark Electron9 (talk) 00:45, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I think the user wants to change User:Kwilliams99 to something like Stephen Clark (engineer). If that's the case, on the page, go to the drop arrow at the top and hit "move". Be sure on the next page to change the drop down to "article". C T F 8 3 !  00:56, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * that would be a tricky option since they created it on their user page and would need to be careful not to take their user talk with the article! -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  01:42, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The draft is on your user page at the moment. This is not what a user page is for, so you do need to move it elsewhere.  If you are the only person who has contributed to this draft, you can cut and paste the entire content  from your user page into a new article in mainspace, or do the same via the WP:AFC  route and then hit "submit".  However, I would suggest you don't do this yet, because the article is not ready.  It has no references to reliable sources to back up any of the assertions in it, and as Mr Clark is a living person, it is a condition of publication that at least one such reference is included,  if you would like it moved to a user sandbox so you can continue to improve it, click on one of the links Electron provided above, create the sandbox, then cut and paste your content into it.   .   Ka renjc (talk) 10:05, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I have moved the draft to User:Kwilliams99/Sandbox.--ukexpat (talk) 12:57, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Profanity
Where do we stand on the use of profanity, specifically on talk pages during contentious debates or within edit summaries? I understand WP is not censored, and it is appropriate to have "fuck" and "shit", etc. in articles about those words, or used in quotes for other articles. But when one user is basically telling another user off, is it acceptable to use foul language? Does this not reduce the quality and stature of the project? Could this not be offensive to people who simply don't care for that kind of language? - and potentially drive them away? One might say "Hey, we're all big people here!", but really... we're not. Plenty of young people, even children use this site. And, when one editor refers to another's contributions as "bullshit", or state they are "tired of their shit", or claim they "don't give a fuck" about what another editor thinks, or exclaim "for fuck sake!" in a response... doesn't this not just trigger the questions I just asked, but also serve to inflame a situation? (that may already be too inflamed). I know it may difficult to police this sort of thing, but can't we have a policy prohibiting profanity in these circumstances? Allow for immediate removal, issue warnings to repeat offenders, and especially prohibit admins from using this language? (they really should setting an example after all)

I tried looking this issue up, but didn't find much. If I'm missing something, please enlighten me, or otherwise, feel to leave feedback, I would like to see some opinions on this. Thanks -  thewolfchild   04:56, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * We have WP:CIVIL. There is no list of "banned words" in communication between editors, and not should (or could) there be, IMO, bearing in mind the wide variety of expressions to which people may choose, or choose not, to take offence, and the nuances of meaning which any word can take on.  Nor do we (or should we) expect any special standards of conduct from admins, other than not to abuse their tools - there is absolutely nothing as far as I know that requires them to "set an example".  They are volunteer janitors, not role models. It's all about usage and intention. If people overtly insult and denigrate others when they are editing we can call them out under WP:CIVIL, but we have no specific ban on any word, because, as you say, Wikipedia is not censored.  I would 100% oppose any policy on banning so-called "profanity"' because it would be undefinable, unenforceable and unnecessary. - Ka renjc (talk) 07:14, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * This becomes all the more important when some people are easily offended by pretty much anything. The other end of the spectrum is the people who shrug these things off or are not at all offended by swearing and minor insults. Any discussion on banning words would quickly offend more people than it meant to protect anyway, especially with WP:NOTCENSORED, which is a good deterrent. Thanks ツ Jenova   20  (email) 09:59, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The original poster expresses the concern that the use of profanity on talk pages during contentious debates reduces the quality and stature of the product, and drives some (not all) editors away. I agree.  As Karenjc says, there is a policy of civility.  It is not consistently enforced, but it is a policy.  Anyway, the comment, "Hey, we're all big people here" misses the point.  We should be big enough people to be civil.  Also, sometimes incivility crossing the line into personal attacks, and those are likely to result in blocks.  I don't think that we should have a policy prohibiting all profanity, but we already have a policy that strongly discourages profanity, the civility policy.  Repeat offenses, especially when they are personal attacks, do result in warnings.  In extreme cases, grossly offensive material can be redacted (see WP:REVDEL).  Also, offensive edit summaries, especially edit summaries attacking another editor, are particularly likely to be redacted, even more than material on talk pages.  I disagree that profanity should be removed from talk page discussion, unless it qualifies for redaction as grossly offensive and having no value, because in general the removal of comments by other editors from talk pages is strongly discouraged.  Robert McClenon (talk) 00:34, 24 October 2013 (UTC)


 * One must always consider why an editor may call another editor's contribution bullshit. You see, it may well be bullshit. We have many trolls here, along with some editors pushing very biased POVs. While the swearing may not be ideal, the bullshit also needs to be policed. Those provoking others to profanity are just as big a problem, if not worse. HiLo48 (talk) 00:41, 24 October 2013 (UTC)


 * BTW, the comment that "we're all big people here" is simply not true - there is no age limit on any Wikipedia page, nor is there any requirement for users to reveal their age. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:41, 24 October 2013 (UTC)


 * And I personally think it's a lot better for kids to be exposed to a bit of swearing than to bullshit from bigots. HiLo48 (talk) 07:03, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, that's fine if you want to spout off f-bombs in front of your kids, but some people might not want that for their kids. (and there are plenty of minors here, I'm sure). Also, I disagree with your argument that if you were to use obscene language here on a talk page, that it must be someone else's fault. Everyone here is responsible for their own keyboard. -  thewolfchild   17:11, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks you for either missing, misrepresenting or ignoring my whole fucking point! It's incompetent/inflammatory posts like that I'm talking about. (Among others.)HiLo48 (talk) 19:22, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * ...And thank-you for making my point. -  thewolfchild   12:43, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Exactly. Everyone is responsible for their own keyboard.  Everyone chooses what they look at.  Whether or not children use the site is a complete red herring.  If I don't want my children to see certain stuff on the internet, it is my responsibility as their mother to police what they look at on the internet.  Wikipedia contains exteremely graphic images, for example, which are freely available to any passing child visitor - an occasional bit of colourful Anglo-Saxon is hardly in the same league!  Adults are responsible for themselves, and if they don't want to read a site that openly declares itself uncensored and has not banned certain words in its discussions, they don't have to.  It is not Wikipedia's job to censor itself in case a child sees a word some random person has decided that they personally find "offensive". It is not Wikipedia's job to try to compile a list of such words, reach consensus on it (can you imagine??) and then start policing it. Incivility is certainly against policy.  Incivility may involve some words that some people would consider offensive.  Or it may involve none, and still be very, very uncivil indeed. We have procedures to sanction people who are persistently and determinedly uncivil to others when they have been reminded about policy.  I cannot for the life of me see why we need procedures to nanny people who choose to use the site, then choose to take offence at what they find here. -  Ka renjc (talk) 20:16, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not just about children. It's about respect, decency, maturity and civility. I'm not asking for a "new procedure". I just wondering how much we're willing to tolerate, before applying existing policies. There is seemingly a 'creeping inflation' effect taking place here. At some point we need to draw a line or things will just get worse. People can be pretty rude and nasty here as it is now, I hate see what this place will be like down the road. -  thewolfchild   12:43, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Need to create a topic in Wikipedia
Hi Team ,

I like to create a topic on my company name as like the others. Kindly provide me and guide me the procedures to do it. Myself and my company will be very much delighted, if you were guiding me to execute this.

Regards, Lazar T — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imlazart (talk • contribs) 06:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * See My First Article. But you should not create an article on a company you are associated with, see conflict of interest. And for an article to be accepted, someone will need to establish that its subject is notable. Maproom (talk) 07:16, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Correction of an article written on our company
Hi there,

There are factual inaccuracies in this article - please can you let me know how i can amend? Quintessentially Group

Thanks, Lara — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.45.115.9 (talk) 08:14, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The best practice option for someone with a conflict of interest such as yourself would be for you to post an explanation of the errors on the article Talk page and also provide acceptable sources for the correct information. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:49, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * This article has been a magnet for spam - I have just reverted a couple of new paragraphs for that reason.--ukexpat (talk) 13:13, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Help with my signature.
Hello, currently my signature looks like this: Acalycine talk  09:25, 23 October 2013 (UTC) The problem is that the time + date is under my name.

My signature code looks like this: div style="width:90px;height:25px;border:6px solid aqua;" User:Acalycine|Acalycine small sup User talk:Acalycine|talk sup small div

(I've removed the <, >, [ and ].)

How do I fix this so the time + date is next to the name?

Acalycine talk  09:25, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Try using tags instead of  tags -- John of Reading talk 09:45, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Acalycine talk  09:48, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Saarang
Sir,

I represent the publicity and student relations team of Saarang IIT Madras. We appreciate the fact that you have given due importance to the fact that ours is a completely student organised festival. on those lines we would like you to include our Core Team's Photo ( as has been done on Mood Indigo page).

Please let us know what formalities are required for the same. We can get the same approved by director's office of IIT Madras. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.139.160.229 (talk) 09:29, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello. In order for Wikipedia to be able to use a photo, it must be released under a free license (released into Public Domain, CC-BY, or CC-BY-SA licenses). You can do this on your own if you own the rights of the picture (e.g. if you took the picture yourself). Please note that images released under these licenses can be used freely by anyone from then on. Even for commercial use. And please do not upload the images if you do not own the rights for it.


 * You can upload your image in the Upload Wizard in Wikimedia Commons. In order to use it in the Saarang article page, please see Picture tutorial. If you need help with it, please come back here and ask.


 * And unrelated to your question, I would strongly recommend you rewrite the use of colloquial language in the Saarang article. Please use formal language. Do not use phrases like "kicks with", "out to chill", etc. And please do remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a PR platform or a brochure. We strictly adhere to the neutral point-of-view. Avoid usage of overly flattering language like "eminent", "talented", or "eagerly", unless such characterizations can be widely sourced. Basically, write as if you are writing for an encyclopedia and stick to just the facts. -- O BSIDIAN  †  S OUL  10:37, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Professor Jonathan Shepherd
Prof Shepeherd is an acclaimed academic with very many notable awards, deserving of an article. Unfortunately I couldn't find a category to associate him with. He works in Emergency medicine and has made notable changes to the approach to reducing violent incidents. I searched for Emergency med and violence without success. I'm happy to have a go at creating an article if you can sort the category for me please. http://www.cardiff.ac.uk/dentl/contactsandpeople/academicstaff/p-t/shepherd-jonathan-prof-overview_new.html

Gerry Leeds UK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.176.105.141 (talk) 10:08, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Please see Notability (academics) first. Articles which fail to meet the notability standards will be deleted. So to spare you the work, make sure he meets the criteria for notability for academics.


 * If you do decide to write an article on him, please read Biographies of living people and Your first article. Ensure that the text is neutral and formal in tone and that all of it is properly sourced (especially important as this is about a living person). Don't worry about categories, they can be added afterwards (probably in Category:British academics). -- O BSIDIAN  †  S OUL  11:26, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I would also urge that you use the Articles for Creation process. this is not required, but it provides for articles to be reviewed by an experienced editor before it "goes live" and is subject to possible deletion for failing to meet Notability and other policies. Such a reviewer can be very helpful. DES (talk) 15:17, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

British Chambers of Commerce
Hi,

I have been asked to message you on behalf of the British Chambers of Commerce due to wanting our Wikipedia page heavily updated.

There are a lot of errors on the page and if myself or someone would be able to update the information and add one of our own photographs that would be great. I am not sure how to go about this so if I could be advised on what to do that would be very helpful.

The name of the article is: British Chambers of Commerce and the web address is: British Chambers of Commerce

Errors on the page include: Chamber names, incorrect number figures and facts.

Thank you very much

Ayla Uzunhasan, British Chambers of Commerce — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aylaeve (talk • contribs) 10:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * It seems that the article has not been significantly updated since 2011 (if then). I'm not affiliated with the organisation in any way and am happy to help.  It would not be a good idea for anyone from the organisation to edit the article because of our conflict of interest guidelines.  The best way forward, Ayla, would be if you could add a section at the article talk page here setting out, in general terms, the sections of the article in particular need of updating, and I will take a look at it.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:43, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

article
Hi-

I am an architectural lighting designer in NY. I have received 4 lighting awards and have been in 5 magazines about my lighting design.

How do I get into Wikipedia?

If need I will write my own article and provide photographs.

Bonny Whitehouse — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.231.102 (talk) 12:54, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * You "get in", in other words have an article written about you, when someone (not you) writes an article that demonstrates that you meet the notability guidelines at WP:BIO. Awards and magazine articles do not necessarily confer notability. See also WP:RS and WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY.--ukexpat (talk) 13:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello! Thanks for asking first, that will probably save you (and others) some work. You should not try to create an article about yourself, it will very very likely be deleted. However. If you think there is enough independent in-depth material about you for a WP-article, you can suggest that one is created. Start by reading WP:YOURSELF, it´s not that long. Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:38, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Pilling's Lock Marina
Pilling's Lock Marina - co ordinates 52°43'34N 01°10'01W is a Marina for 315 inland waterway craft situated on the South end of the Loughborough Canal section of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Soar which is at the northern end of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Union_Canal

Pillings Lock Marina is a modern marina in the East Midlands area of Leicestershire. Designed and built during the years 2006 to 2009. Situated centrally for access to any part of the UK canal & river network subject to craft dimensions & capabilities. The marina has boat moorings, a restaurant & a boat repair workshop & slipway. It is geographically situated between the villages of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorndon and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrow-upon-Soar

Pilling's Lock Marina was named after the nearby flood lock on the Navigation called "Pilling's Lock" & rumour has it that this lock took it's name from the local landowner or lock keeper when the canal was constructed in 1778. There was a small house situated at Pilling's Lock until the late 1950's when it was demolished after falling into disrepair. this house served as a Lock Keepers cottage when the navigation was used as a commercial waterway. The waterway has remained serviceable since being built in 1778 even though the railways contributed to the rapid decline in commercial traffic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland_Main_Line affected the waterway from 1830 onwards & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Central_Railway close to this part of the canal was founded in 1897. Both had dramtic effects on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Soar being used as a trade route.

The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Soar is used almost exclusively for Leisure Boat Traffic now and this need for private boat moorings prompted Pilling's Lock Marina to be conceived by Paul Lillie, Matthew Steadman & Diana Steadman.

The site which covers 22 acres was first used as an open quarry for aggregates to be taken from the geological deposits in this area of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soar_Valley before then being converted almost simultaneously into a Marina.

www.pillingslock.com

Paul Lillie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pillingslock (talk • contribs) 13:22, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * A commercial marina such as you describe is almost certainly not notable enough to justify a WIkipedia article about it. Your draft article does nothing to persuade me otherwise. Maproom (talk) 13:32, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Credits on the page about Lone Wolf (gamebooks series)
Hello,

my name's Alberto Dal Lago. Reading the page about Lone Wolf (gamebooks series) at: Lone Wolf (gamebooks) it occurred to me that the information at Chapter "Republication and expansion" was not correct.

At the second paragraph, you can read:

This new edition of the gamebooks features new internal artwork by Richard Longmore (books 1 to 12 and 17), Nathan Furman (books 13 and 18) and Pascal Quidault (books 14 to 16).

I've been working as cover artist on that series for three years, so you should correct that paragraph with:

This new edition of the gamebooks features new internal artwork by Alberto Dal Lago (cover artist books 1 to 12), Richard Longmore (books 1 to 12 and 17), Nathan Furman (books 13 and 18) and Pascal Quidault (books 14 to 16).

You can contact the author himself (Joe Dever) and ask him to confirm I've been working on it.

Thank you in advance,

Alberto Dal Lago — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albe77 (talk • contribs) 14:03, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * It seems to me that the information in the article is correct, as "internal artwork" does not include the artwork on the cover. Maproom (talk) 14:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The question isn't whether something can be confirmed via email (Wikipedia has no such process for that); it's whether there is a reliable source that has been published that contains the information proposed to be added to the article. If you can find such a source, I suggest you post your recommended change in wording, plus the source, at the article talk page: Talk:Lone Wolf (gamebooks), and let another editor handle it, because you have a conflict of interest. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 01:20, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

I have been trying to add links to our web-site
I am the Executive Director with the GBS-CIDP Foundation International. Our website has material that explains many of the diseases that we deal with. (GBS, CIDP, MMN, Miller Fisher, etc...) I have been trying to add links to our web-site. We are the only international organization that handles these diseases. Some of the information is published articles and some are for the site in general.

Can you advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktsingle (talk • contribs) 14:37, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Please see Advice for editors who may have a conflict of interest.  Mlpearc  ( powwow ) 15:09, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

About an edit I have made
Dear Sir/Madam

I have just made an edit to Wiki "Yawning".

What do I need to do next?

Will you review it or verify it or do I need to offer names of Reviewers?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.80.66.254 (talk) 14:50, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The edit seems very "experienced", much more than your query.  Mlpearc  ( powwow ) 15:02, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * To tackle an easy part, I have . - David Biddulph (talk) 15:14, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * No approval or review is needed, edits go live at once. However, that means they are subject to correction or revision at once if another editor thinks the edit can be improved or is unhelpful. DES (talk) 15:20, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Foundations, Institutions and paid advocacy
Dear editors: Once again I am confused. Today there is a new Afc submission Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Frick Collection and Frick Art Reference Library WikiProject. I am pretty sure that a single person can't start a Wikiproject, but I also thought that Wikipedia doesn't promote organizations, and especially if the promoter is an employee of the organization as is the case here. But now I see that this isn't true, since there is GLAM/Smithsonian Institution, which appears to be a similar subject. Is there a policy that specifies what topics are and are not appropriate for Wikiprojects? I'd like to give the submitter some specific information. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 14:59, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * since AfC is Articles for creation, I wouldn't think it an appropriate way to start a new wikiproject. Ultimately any page, including a Wikiproject page, must be started by a single user, but a Wikiproject will do little good unless multiple users are interested and active. I see less harm done by a user with a COI starting or contributing to a Wikiproject page than to an actual article, I would view this as similar to posting on an article talk page, it is after all merely advice to editors. (Of course that is only my opinion.) I would reach out to the user involved and try to discuss what the user has in mind and how to achieve it. DES (talk) 15:25, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * WikiProject discusses this, and advises reading WikiProject Council/Guide and esp WikiProject Council/Guide, and then starting with a proposal. Using AfC instead strikes me as ill-advised. DES (talk) 15:31, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I have declined the submission and left some information on the editor's talk page. Now to start that "Wikproject Anne's Organic Knitting Patterns".... &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 19:44, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

User needs help retrieving deleted article from sandbox
Hi there. I'm working with Henloe at a local edit-a-thon and we are unable to solve a problem that I'm hoping someone might be able to help on. She created a long and detailed article that was sitting in her sandbox but she didn't know there was a time limit for editing it, and now it's gone. She would like to retrieve/undelete the stuff that was in her sandbox so she can keep working on it. If this is possible, could someone please post for me how I can help her do that? Thanks Girona7 (talk) 18:07, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I assume you are referring to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/New Words Bookstore. See WP:REFUND/G13 for instructions on how to have it restored. -- Mdann 52   talk to me!  18:17, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ I assume you refer to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/New Words Bookstore. I have restored this. The 6-month limit on AfC drafts applies only to drafts with no activity at all for a 6-month period. DES (talk) 18:20, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * There is also a draft at User:Henloe/sandbox.--ukexpat (talk) 18:22, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Moved to User:Henloe/sandbox, where Henloe will have more time to turn it into an article. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I think that is a serious mistake, Orangemike. Use of the AfC mechanism is generally preferable to user space sandboxes, in my view, esp when the article was started under AfC. The AfC 6-month clock restarts with each edit to the page, and if a page gets no edits at all in such a period, even in a user sandbox, it could be subject to deletion under the policy that wikipedia is not a free web host. I urge you to move it back. I nwould do this myself but don't want to move war or wheel-war over such a matter. DES (talk) 18:30, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Were it not that both Gerona and Henloe have clearly shown an intention to work on it, I would agree with you DES; as it is, I don't think it will turn out to be too problematic. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:39, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I can see that moving it back as they work might cause confusion. But I don't understand why you moved it within minutes of the restoration and as the link to the restored page was being provided here. I urge not doing that in future, unless I have failed to understand your reasons. DES (talk) 18:43, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! Really appreciate your speedy reply and action. Cheers. Girona7 (talk) 18:26, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Change Logo
I work at Sqrrl Inc, a startup in Boston has just had a rebranding. I am having trouble uploading an image to wikipedia and am trying to upload a new image to show the new logo on the company page.

Here is the website to show you the new logo:

http://sqrrl.com/

If someone could please help me upload this it would be very much appreciated!

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MeganSqrrl (talk • contribs) 18:53, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Please make your request at files for upload.--ukexpat (talk) 19:50, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I have uploaded the correct logo and added it to the article.--ukexpat (talk) 12:48, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Compromised account?
In my notifications, it says that one of my edits had been reverted. However, I did not make this edit. The only thing that I can figure out is that there's a bug in the Wikipedia software and it's confusing different accounts, or my account has been compromised. Glancing at my last 50 edits, this is the only one I don't recognize. So if my account was compromised, it's a bit weird that whoever it was, they only made a single edit. Anyway, I've since changed my password. I'm not sure if there's anything else I should do. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 19:08, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you have one-click rollback links showing on your watchlist? I've read that it is easy to click those by mistake. -- John of Reading (talk) (not a rollbacker) 19:19, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The edit was a rollback, I notice, so it'd be interesting to know if you perhaps had that page in your watchlist and accidentally clicked Rollback without realising. Similarly, if you view the Recent Changes, you could have done the same there. Either way, it seems likely to me that you may have performed it accidentally. The other possibility is that you left your account logged in on a public terminal (unlikely, but there we go), and another user viewed a Wikipedia page, and used the rollback feature without realising they were logged in as you. Either way, it's not something to be worried about. drewmunn talk 19:20, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have rollbacks on my watch list. Maybe I clicked on it by accident?  But I'm usually pretty good about that sort of thing.  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 19:29, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It happens to the best of us! If you notice it, self-revert. If not, I usually thank the person who catches it. drewmunn talk 19:36, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Here's a script (not mine) I've used to remove those links, but I use Twinkle which has the Rollback links at the top of the page. Just add it to your .css page.

.page-Special_RecentChanges .mw-rollback-link {display:none;}

.page-Special_Watchlist .mw-rollback-link {display:none;}

.page-Special_Contributions .mw-rollback-link {display:none;}

Mlpearc ( powwow ) 22:24, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah I've done that before (Fat fingers and touch screens don't mix well.) Anyway, there's probably a script somewhere that will prompt you for a confirmation before rollback.&#32;~HueSatLum 22:49, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I was immediately reverted with an edit-summary of "Undoing disruptive revert". A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 00:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * There's probably already one written somewhere, but I wrote this one, if you want. It adds a confirmation dialog to the "rollback" links only on the watchlist. Other pages can be added, if desired. To install, just add   to your common.js page (or whatever other .js page you prefer). Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 00:36, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but it doesn't appear to be working for me. Here's my common.js.  What am I doing wrong?  Feel free to be bold and modify my common.js.  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 01:39, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, that looks right. did you remember to bypass your browser cache? I think it's CTRL+F5 for most browsers, but that linked page will have more detailed instructions. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 01:43, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, I cleared out my browser cache and I am now getting the confirmation dialog. However, if I click Cancel in the dialog, the rollback is still performed.  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 01:54, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Really? Might be a browser thing; damn event bubbling. Works on mine. Might want to uninstall it then; I'll work on it. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 02:01, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Which browser are you using? I'm using IE10.  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 02:18, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Firefox. I might've guessed it was IE10.  I'll see what I can do. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 02:20, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It doesn't work from FF either. For FF, the dialog appears and then automatically rejects the edit without me even clicking on a button.  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 02:29, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Huh. That's really weird. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 02:34, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Excessively pinging you just for kicks Not to be one of those guys who links to Stack Overflow for everything, but..."Intercept click event on a button, ask for confirmation, then proceed" (see Edit). Why reinvent the wheel? This can be simplified a fair bit, but I'm sure you get the jist (Interception! Tackle! Field goal! I don't watch football and I'm totally winging this play off of "interception" that's not even especially funny! ).  Theopolisme  ( talk )  02:42, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * That's what I'm doing already, though. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 02:44, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Reverting page name change
With this edit on September 17, 2013, a user arbitrarily redirected the page Ohel (Chabad) to Ohel (Chabad-Lubavitch). Two editors (including myself) asked for clarification on the user's talk page ( and ), but the user has not replied for more than a month. Since the name change does not appear in any published source, I would like to know if an administrator can revert the change. Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 21:14, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It would be best to start a discussion at Talk:Ohel (Chabad-Lubavitch). If there is a consensus for a move back, any admin should be willing, or you could use the Requested move process. DES (talk) 21:58, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Yoninah (talk) 22:17, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Is this person notable?
I have some sources on a possible notable person in my sandbox: User:HtownCat/sandbox. I'd like an opinion on whether or not this person is notable. I've been mistaken about the strength of my references in the past and I'm trying to be more careful. Thanks, HtownCat (talk) 21:16, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I'd suggest not. The first source is about the business more than the individual, and most of the remaining sources only mention him in passing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * As it stands, weak to non-notable in my opinion. The Monroe Monitor is probably the best, but is still more about the business and seems to be local. But there might be more sources available. Ideally you want a source that devotes at least several paragraphs to the person, not just his business. The last link you have, that just gives a picture and a tag line, shouldn't even be used in a Wikipedia article. It is too trivial to be worth while, unless the tag line is the only support for some specific fact in the article. I wouldn't pass an AfC submission with no more than these sources. DES (talk) 22:09, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * For biographies, you want to look for articles that write about when Tom Hoban was born, his parents and siblings, elementary or high school he attended, college, post college jobs, awards, and other life elements. When the independent reliable sources show an interest in his life, then that forms the makings of a Wikipedia biography. If the sources only write about Tom Hoban and real estate, then that is what would be summarized in a Tom Hoban and real estate article, which is not a type of article that fits in Wikipedia. -- Jreferee (talk) 05:22, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, all! I will not write an article about him at this time. HtownCat (talk) 17:46, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Re-naming a Wikipedia page?
Hello, I am in charge of editing a couple of Wikipedia pages, both of which are companies who have gone through a recent rebranding or official name change. I see a few options such as "submitting a redirect" and "making a move." I know that it probably won't be submitting a redirect, because I am not trying to redirect one page to another existing one. Rather, if a visitor visits the Wikipedia page with the old name, I just want the name of the Wikipedia to automatically change to the new one.

What are the detailed steps for this, and how long does it take to get approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.168.186.178 (talk) 21:32, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The first thing is that no one is "in charge" of editing a Wikipedia page. If you are an employee or an assocaite of the company, or of a PR or marketing firm that has the company for a client, please read our conflict of interest guideline before editing. Due to recent events people are getting much stricter about this guideline.
 * The second thing is that a move can only be done by a user who is logged in and has been "autoconfirmed". For other users, or for complex or controversial cases, use Requested moves. Or you can simply post on the talk pages of the articles involved. DES (talk) 21:48, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * What DES said. You are indeed looking for a redirect from the old name to the new, and if you would like to submit information about the requested change, together with a reliable source to substantiate the name change, either here or at the article's talk page, someone will be happy to help.  But you are most emphatically not "in charge" of any page belonging to Wikipedia. -  Ka renjc (talk) 21:55, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I should have been clearer above. A "move" changes the title of an existing page, usually leaving a redirect behind. A "redirect" is a page that automatically sends a reader to a different page. It is common to have redirects from alternate names of a subject. For example International Business Machines is a redirect to IBM. DES (talk) 22:19, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Non-English sources
What happens if an editor adds a text supported by a non-English source, is asked on the talk page to provide the translation, but he doesn't return to offer the requested translation? Is there a procedure for getting other editors speaking the respective language to check the source? 79.117.166.143 (talk) 21:43, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * See WP:NOENG. Accepting the user's translation is just as reasonable as allowing the citation without it. I would suggest attempting to use Google Translate, or maybe even consider asking someone who speaks the language in question (see WP:LOCEMB). Scarce2 (talk) 23:49, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

How to remove and add a photo in wikipedia?
Can you pleaes help me remove and add a photo to Washington State Fair wikipedia? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.146.53.149 (talk) 22:05, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


 * There seem to be four images in the Washington State Fair article at the moment. All look reasonable at a quick glance. What exactly do you want to do and why? Remember that in general, photos and other images must be freely licensed (or public domain), so that anyone may use them for any purpose, to be acceptable here, with some limited exceptions. DES (talk) 22:13, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Edit Warring
Hello !

I am a new user in Wiki editing, beginners' luck; I faced edit warring at this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pharmaceutical_marketing&action=history

I would like to ask if a site at the external links was sponsored by a beneficiary institute, then they withdrew this sponsorship.

Is it possible to keep it back again at external links? noting that they did not mention or promote any product or service through this link or even do not add an external link at this site to the ex-sponsor.

There is a fight their and I do not know if I am right or wrong at this issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pharmarketer (talk • contribs) 22:51, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know either, but it looks dubious to me. My advice: read our guideline on external links and especially its subsection our guideline about external links to avoid and then if you think the link belongs, suggest it on Talk:Pharmaceutical marketing with your reasons. DES (talk) 00:26, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I would add that your user name Pharmarketer and the fact that you also inserted a link to a blog suggest a Conflict of Interest. I urge you to read that guideline also. DES (talk) 00:29, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * FWIW, it might be a reputable organization. The National Center for Biotechnology Information apparently published an article co-written by this site's founder.  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 00:46, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Just as a point of order, that article was not published by the NCBI, it was published in the British Medical Journal and archived in Pubmed Central, a biomedical literature repository run by the NCBI. It doesn't make any difference really in this case but I thought I'd point it out in case anyone follows the link and wants to cite the article. Equisetum (talk &#124; contributions) 16:51, 24 October 2013 (UTC)