Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 October 25

= October 25 =

Sappi Fine Paper
Update for the SAPPI article; In 1995 SAPPI purchased 4 mills from SD Warren. Muskegon, Mich; Mobile, Ala; Somerset, Maine and Westbrook, Maine. In 2002 SAPPI purchased the Cloquet, Minnesota pulp and paper mill from Potlatch Corp.

I worked for Potlatch, Sappi for 38 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.7.235.66 (talk) 00:06, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Firstly please post this information to the Sappi talk page, and second, even if you worked for them, your information needs to be verifiable with a reliable source. If you have one for this info then post it on the previously mentioned talk page :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samwalton9 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Used a wrong user name while creating account on wikipedia.
Hello All

I was trying to create a company profile in Wikipedia. Using sign-up option. However, I was supposed to choose a user nsame related to the company name. But mistakenly I have used a wrong user name. That is what showing in the profile url. (UserPage-User:Digitalgroupinc)

Now after exploring on wiki I got a redirect option which I have used to redirect the page on the right user name. But I am not able to find it.

Please let me know. If the user name in the profile url is the same what we use in the user name at the time of sign-up.

Also, how can i check the redirect.

UserPage- User:Digitalgroupinc Redirected Page - The Digital Group Inc

How can I use the Redirected page and abort the User page for users. Nothing has been edited yet in the page. I am looking out to fix this and start creating the content as per the Wikipedia guidelines.

Many Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digitalgroupinc (talk • contribs) 09:40, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

You should not be creating a page about any company you work for, or are otherwise connected to, as you cannot do this from a Neutral point of view. Furthermore, as your username contravenes the user name policy, it will probably be blocked shortly. Arjayay (talk) 09:53, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Before going any further please read Wikipedia's policy on conflict of interest and Wikipedia's user name policy.


 * Wikipedia does not contain profiles. It contains articles. The difference is subtle, but important. --ColinFine (talk) 16:55, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

largest malls in india
A NEW MALL HAS OPNED IN ALIGARH(U.P.),INDIA 3LAK SQ FT ADD THAT IN YOUR LIST ALSO PLEASE

FOR MORE DETAIL http://www.franchiseindia.com/property/great-value-mall.php  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joyc97 (talk • contribs) 11:21, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Requested articles is thataway.....---> WP:RA.--ukexpat (talk) 12:50, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I think Joyc97 wants it added to List of shopping malls in India, but as they have already made 26 edits, I'm not sure why they have asked here - although I've deleted a couple of Indian real estate adverts from this page recently. The reference is to the letting agents particulars - a primary source - I don't know if there are any WP:RSs available. Arjayay (talk) 13:08, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * It may be added to the list if we have, or could have, an article about it. That in turn depends on whether it is notable in Wikipedia's sense, i.e. whether several reliable sources (such as major newspapers) have yet written about it. If it is only mentioned on agents' websites, directories etc., then it is not (yet) notable. --ColinFine (talk) 16:58, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * ColinFine - my impression of List of shopping malls in India is that it largely sourced to the shopping mall websites themselves such the list is mostly complete. By not limiting the list to independent, reliable sources, Wikipedia is creating pressure on developers of new shopping malls in India, such as the Great Value Mall, to have a presence in Wikipedia's List of shopping malls in India article. We probably should do something about this. -- Jreferee (talk) 19:27, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Searching within a category
Dear editors: I wanted to find articles in the Afc that are about football. I typed this search: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/football and chose "containing...". Here is the result: 4443 entries. This includes old, declined entries as well as draft articles that haven't yet been submitted and redirects to accepted articles. I would like to narrow the search so that it only includes pending submissions (:Category:Pending AfC submissions). I tried adding this in the search box, but it searches for "pending" and "submissions" in the text instead. What should I do? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 15:53, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Anne Delong - Microsoft excel has a Home>Conditional formatting>Highlight cell rules>Duplicate values options that highlights identical text in a column. If you added the names of each of the 4443 entries to a first column and, below that, add the names of each of the entries at Category:Pending AfC submissions and then select highlight duplicate values for the column, the highlighted Category:Pending AfC submissions entries would be the ones you are looking for. Now, before you think, "this guy's banjo is really out of tune," another option is to post a request at Bot requests to see if one of the bot developers will run a search for you that will give you the results you are looking for. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:58, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Dear Jreferee: Much as I enjoy complex spreadsheet operations and Microsoft products in general, I was hoping for a preprepared onWiki solution, which could be posted on a Wikiproject page, and which could easily be clicked on by members to see if any of the current Afc submissions are about their area of interest.  A manual solution won't work, because the contents of the "Pending submissions" category change from minute to minute.  Your answer tells me that the search engine likely won't do what I want, so I will move my request to VPT.  Thanks! &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 15:36, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, the Bot requests could work for one search, but not for an ongoing search. Hopefully, VPT will have an answer. -- Jreferee (talk) 16:06, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I would suggest you try the incategory parameter within your search, but unfortunately categories created by templates aren't findable using such a search approach. (In general, see Help:Searching.) I suggest you try using a Google search - specifically  If you do that, you'll get one result, plus this message: "In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 1 already displayed. If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included." Click on the link "repeat the search with the omitted results included", and you'll get what looks to me like what you're looking for.


 * If that doesn't do it for you, then yes, WP:VPT is almost definitely the best place to ask (again). -- John Broughton (♫♫) 23:52, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, John Broughton, I thought of a Google search, but unfortunately, since pages in Articles for creation aren't ready for the encyclopedia yet, they all have templates with NOINDEX in them to prevent Google from picking them up. I have left a message at VPT. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 00:04, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Google appears to interpret "NOINDEX" as "don't read the contents of this page", rather than "omit this page entirely from searches". So its search results do include AfC pages; they just don't display with a snippet of their contents. I do suspect that the NOINDEX may prevent any further refinement in search results - say, excluding certain pages, but I haven't experimented with the list of results. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 05:27, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

denada versus De Nada
Ola. I don't contribute much or often but I wanted to stop lurking and create a user account with the name "De Nada" but the registration system says it is too close to username "denada" yet when I search for *anything* tied to username "denada" there appears to be nothing at all, no user page, no contributions, no edits of any kind. Can an admin help me either (a) get username "De Nada" or (b) explain why this is not allowed if no one else is using it? Thanks 66.97.209.215 (talk) 16:34, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Account Denada was created on 24 October 2008, but never created a user or user talk page, which is why you can't find them by searching for User:Denada. They have not made any edits, which means, I believe, that you should be able to usurp the username. Please see WP:USURP. --ColinFine (talk) 17:03, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * ColinFine: Your advice was in error, the correct policy in this case is WP:IMPERSONATOR. I appreciate that you wanted to help but you should NOT have removed the {ADMIN HELP} tag if you were not an Admin . I wasted a lot of time trying to resolve the process conflicts between WP:CHU/S and WP:USURP requests when the whole time neither of these was the correct procedure. :( 66.97.209.215 (talk) 18:43, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I removed the admin help template because it was inappropriate to use it on this page. It is for use on article talk and user talk pages.--ukexpat (talk) 18:52, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Indeed, I answered to the best of my ability, but I did not remove the tag. --ColinFine (talk) 22:59, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The documentation of Admin help actually does say it can be used here. As WP:IMPERSONATOR says, you can request the username at Request an account. There are account creators who can create it for you without renaming the similar username. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:52, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You could file a request at Changing username/Usurpations to make User:De Nada your user name and, per Commonly misspelled usernames, request that User:denada be usurped to be a doppelgänger account since, as ColinFine points out, User:denada has not made any edits. Usurping User:denada as a doppelgänger account avoids a potential request rejection at WP:IMPERSONATOR due to "De Nada" and "denada" not being different enough as to prevent other people from confusing the two users. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:39, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Edit the Title of my Company's Wikipedia Page
My company rebranded and the name of our transit service has changed. How can I update the title of the page? I am referring to the "Connect-a-Ride" page that is found at: Connect-a-Ride

Thank you.

CMRT2013 (talk) 17:38, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I have moved it to Central Maryland Regional Transit. You should also create a new account (and abandon your current account) with user name that represents you as an individual rather than your company, per WP:CORPNAME.--ukexpat (talk) 17:58, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

How do I change the name of a Wikipedia Category?
For example I want to change Category:Turkmenistan people of Russian descent to Category:Turkmenistani people of Russian descent

Thanks1982vdven (talk) 18:17, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * You need to raise it at Categories for discussion, have a look at the page it explains the procedure. MilborneOne (talk) 18:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * 1982vdven, it seems that People of Turkmenistan are called Turkmen people, not Turkmenistani people, so Category:Turkmenistan people of Russian descent might be renamed to Category:Turkmen people of Russian descent. However, it appears that Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_April_17 renamed Category:Turkmen people to Category:Turkmenistan people to resolve ambiguities, so Category:Turkmen people of Russian descent won't work. However, using Turkmenistani people instead of Turkmenistan people might not be an unreasonable change. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:10, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Now that someone has redirected the Connect-a-Ride page, it isn't showing correctly
Someone updated the Connect-a-Ride page by redirecting it to Central Maryland Regional Transit, but now the table with the various routes is gone.

CMRT2013 (talk) 18:44, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * That material was removed because Wikipedia is not a directory.--ukexpat (talk) 18:50, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Listing the public transportation available in a region doesn't make it a directory. A variety of other pages include that pertinent information, such as: Howard Transit and Baltimore Mass Transit Administration. Alexmt27 (talk) 18:57, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * that other articles are crappy and contain stuff they shouldn't is not a valid rationale to allow more crappy articles. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it is not a bus schedule nor a free web host for promotional content about your company. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  20:33, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Please also see WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS - but thanks for pointing it out - it may disappear shortly. - Arjayay (talk) 20:46, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Slaight Communications
Astral Media did not acquire Iceberg radio in the purchase of Standard Broadcasting. Iceberg Radio was acquired by AccuRadio in Chicago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.101.124.134 (talk) 19:59, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The place to bring this up is the talk page of whichever article it is you want changed. It would be helpful if you provided a reference to a published source that has the information you are suggesting. --ColinFine (talk) 23:01, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The AccuRadio website says "Iceberg Radio is now AccuRadio." This article does not say anything about AccuRadio acquiring Iceberg Radio and I could not find anything about it being transferred to the Astral Media family. I added, to both Slaight Communications and Iceberg Radio, a reference about the non-sale of Iceberg radio to Astral Media and a citation needed tag regarding the subsequent sale. -- Jreferee (talk) 13:53, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

RW Johnson
Dear Wikip33edia

I am writing about the entry on myself - RW Johnson. There is a lot of poor information here, supplied by a small sect of Trotskyites who wish to do me down for obvious ideological reasons. They have supplied you with information citing, for example, the one critical review (by a rival writer) of a best-selling and well-reviewed book I wrote (South Africa's Brave New World) and they also both fomented the agitation alleging racism by me and then supplied you with stuff about it. All the nonsense about baboons.

For the record, several members of my family are black or married to black people. I have a black nephew and niece, black grand-nephews, a black daughter in law, a whole set of black in-laws - and well, need I go on ? The idea that I am a white racist is, frankly, laughable. Also, the biog online makes no mention of the fact that I was a Professor at the Sorbonne, that one of my books (KAL 007) was filmed in Hollywood, that I am the Chairman of the Advisory Board (and also a founder) of Good Governance Africa and that I travel the Continent a good deal trying to set up GGAs in all the major centres. Similarly, no less than three of my former students featured in the British cabinet of 2010 - they all clubbed together to send me a photo of it, signed by all three - Hunt, Huhne and Hague). Perhaps half of the staff of the Economist are also my former students including Bill Emmott, the former editor. Similarly, I have many friends among the French political elite inc. a number of Communists and Socialists and also the Gaullist leader, Francois Fillon. The Vice Chancellor of the University of Cape Town, Max Price, is another of my former students. In the official history of Magdalen College my name features more than any other in the modern period. As Senior Bursar of Magdalen I was responsible for the completion of the Great Tower (then restored), a distinction which I share only with Cardinal Wolsey who helped erect it in the first place. I was also responsible for turning the whole college around financially and then for dramatically improving its academic results. I also helped set up the Stanford University campus in Oxford. 1If you go to my website, rwjohnson.co.za, you will get a far better view of what I do. Frankly, what you have about me at the moment is just a disgrace.

RW Johnson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.227.243.59 (talk) 21:49, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I added a title uhhlive (talk) 21:53, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I see that there have been problems on this article before. Can you please post a list of desired changes on Talk:R. W. Johnson with sources? Please remember that, as a primary source, the subject's web site can be used for only limited purposes here, although it can be a starting point. DES (talk) 23:42, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * You can also request help at WP:BLPN to get the article checked for accuracy and balance, and its sources for reliability. - Ka renjc (talk) 07:25, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I posted a request at BLPN. -- Jreferee (talk) 13:24, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Eli Harvey
I am trying to put a chart in the Elk or Elk at Rest section. However the chart is appearing at the bottom of the article, not where I'd like it to be. Any ideas? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 23:36, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Carptrash, I fixed it here. Basically, you forgot to close the table.  Dismas |(talk) 23:42, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. I copied the table format from somewhere else and probably just miscut. May the gods look favorably upon you and your descendants for seven generations.  Carptrash (talk) 23:50, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Photo uploaded for article on Thomas Wakem Caldwell
Hi,

I am the great grandson of Thomas Wakem Caldwell who was a member of the Canadian Parliament. I have family photo of him and I would like to have it added to his page in Wikipedia. Thanks, Kevin Saya-Moore

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Kevin_Saya-Moore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevin Saya-Moore (talk • contribs) 23:55, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ in this edit.--ukexpat (talk) 01:07, 26 October 2013 (UTC)