Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 September 27

= September 27 =

How do i create my definition page
I am a professional entertainer and would like to create a definition page about me. Is that possible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingroozie (talk • contribs) 04:43, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * It's strongly discouraged. Read WP:AUTO for guidance.  If you are notable, you can request someone else to make the article at WP:RA.  RudolfRed (talk) 04:56, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Add a note to Zeb Turner's employment.
I am the source for this edit. I personally drove to this nightclub on weekends to watch and listen to Zeb Turner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hockeystu2 (talk • contribs) 06:19, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome! I think your note is best placed at Talk:Zeb Turner, but I've written you a response on your talk page, which should (hopefully) explain a few Wikipedia basics.  I hope it helps.  If you have any further questions, drop me a note on my talk page.  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:01, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Serial commas
Hello. I was wondering if we should have some kind of grammatical or editorial guideline encouraging the use of serial commas and articles ("the", "a", and "an", etc.) in sentences. I have noticed innumerable cases of articles with no serial commas or missing articles. I think correct grammar should be strongly encouraged on all articles because the general public uses Wikipedia as a source of reference; including news articles, various websites, and postings on different websites, e.g. YouTube. Just putting in my 2 cents here. Jay (talk) 06:49, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome! Yes, please check out MOS:SERIAL.  That's a subsection of our Manual of Style and should answer most of your questions related to grammar and whatnot.  Also note that we use tend to use grammar appropriate to the subject's region.  So if we are writing about an English TV show, we might say "The group are" instead of "the group is" or refer to "season" as "series" or use "capitalisation" instead of the US variant.  Happy editing!  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:59, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with all that Cyphoidbomb says here. But the consensus that Brits prefer to say "The group are" puzzles me. I am a Brit, and people I listen to say "the group is". Is there a discussion somewhere, where this consensus was reached? Maproom (talk) 18:45, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Let me totally backpedal on that one. I just meant that we use grammar appropriate for the originating nation.  If "the group are" is not (are not?) proper British English, that's just my ignorance.  :)  They say "the team are" on Mythbusters (an American show) constantly and it drives me nuts.  I assumed that they were just using British English to make the show more internationally friendly.  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:55, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * As a fellow Brit, that drives me nuts too. I can't find a discussion about it.--ukexpat (talk) 18:56, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * UK English uses the plural for "nouns of multitude". Please see Comparison of American and British English for a fuller explanation.Arjayay (talk) 18:58, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I speak British English, and I don't use, and never have used, such plurals.--ukexpat (talk) 19:22, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * British English may, but does not necessarily, use plural verbs with collectives such as 'committee', 'government', 'group'. Both singular and plural verbs get used, sometimes even in the same passage, with slightly different meaning. --ColinFine (talk) 22:59, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I opened up a can o' worms here, didn't I? Sorry everybody!  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:28, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

David Tomasi Articles for deletion/David Tomasi

 * This article is completely faked by a confidence trickster. Take a look at the references section and check them... See de.WP: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzerin:Itti/David_Tomasi A new unsourced article in only a few hours. Only one funny reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-0m7mAahyU --Frze > talk   11:02, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The article was deleted by Orangemike under WP:CSD G3, as a blatant hoax. - Ka renjc (talk) 14:25, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * And I just WP:NAC'd the Afd.--ukexpat (talk) 17:04, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Hotel Moritz vs. The Ritz-Carlton, Central Park
The URL of this page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritz-Carlton_New_York_Central_Park, when it should be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_St._Moritz. All of the content is about Hotel St. Moritz. Shouldn't there be a unique page about The Ritz-Carlton, Central Park? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.130.196.121 (talk) 20:24, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The page Ritz-Carlton New York Central Park is a redirect page to the article Hotel St. Moritz. Since they are the same building, this seems reasonable to me, but if you think that there is enough material published in reliable sources about the Ritz-Carlton specificially to ground an article about it as opposed to the St Moritz, you are welcome to create one - or, better, make the suggestion on the talk page Talk:Hotel St. Moritz to see if you can get consensus. --ColinFine (talk) 23:07, 27 September 2013 (UTC)