Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 September 29

= September 29 =

A reference at the actor's Aron_Eisenberg page needs wikifing/tweaking
Could someone teak a reference I added on the actors' Aron_Eisenberg page? Thanks! Venustar84 (talk) 03:43, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Venustar84. A reference had been invoked without being defined, so I defined it like this:  . I assume that is what you intended?  benzband  ( talk ) 09:46, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Help Desk, can you help me out i have been trying to get back on plantyoffish but it will not let me get back on there can you help me out
Can you all help me get back on plantyoffish i have been trying for to days now and i still can't get on there !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.76.225.192 (talk) 03:47, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * No, we cannot help you with that. The Help Desk is for helping with how to use Wikipedia, not any other site such as Plentyoffish.  You'll need to contact that site for help. RudolfRed (talk) 06:23, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

portlandstreetblues.com
portlandstreetblues.com is a blues web site which seems to be getting confused with the Chinese movie Portland street blues if you folks could differentiate between the two it would be much appreciated.great web site duds.207.102.46.235 (talk) 03:53, 29 September 2013 (UTC) portlandstreetblues.com


 * Wikipedia doesn't seem to have an article on the website, so there is no confusion here. If you're talking about confusion in Google search results, that's something you would have to take up with Google. If you're asking for an article about the website in order to differentiate it from the film, that's not how Wikipedia works.  Have a look at our policy on notability to understand what level of coverage in independent reliable sources a website would need before it became an acceptable subject for an article in this encyclopaedia. -  Ka renjc (talk) 09:06, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

My letter to info-en-q at wikimedia dot org (re AFD on everything I am associated with musically in the open source and on the greatest online encyclopaedia ever
Haello all, delete my page but leave Adam Rabuck's and Mike Wagner and Josh Alpert's bands alone. This is my note to the ppl who are supposed to aid me against this duffbeerforme witchhunt against everything I have ever done.

Hi all, I know I am notable. So do you because I was told so unequivocally several times and have screenshots of chat room transcripts and more wiki archival correspondence to support what I started this email with. It's true. But Ellin Beltz and DuffBeerForMe in particular are ignorant of this.

The Dennis Donaghy page (abbrev 'DD') may need cleanup (again, first time Revent was the user that neutralized the DD page). But not AFD Deletion.

Why? I am a musician, subject to musician guidelines as far as living people.

Musician guideline 6 even as reads now and even without my note edit a few minutes ago, is how I was repeatedly told you can never really become un-notable unless they change the rules or something. IU may be mistaken but I have screenies showing vet wiki ppl tellin me this. Snapped shots just in case Duffbeerforme types who inevitably emerge to strike ppl like me (is how i truly feel) instead of getting up and earning a possible notability if thats what they want. I didnt ever want notability (actualy in '07 I unpromptedly made a page called Iteprunct (Multimedia Artist) but didnt contest the deletion, had fun with it. Having fun with this one too, as much as I can, but it's stressful and I thik it's unfair for this and here is why I characterize it as a witch hunt-

This Duffbeerforme person is AFD'ing everything I am associated with. He's trying to unnotable all the bands that made me notable. Look fer yerselves, dont believe me as I am the biased subject.

But seriously, I am aware Duffbeerforme is perfectly entitled to do these afd's the tags etc, but man it really seems like overkill, like you know, some OTHER motivation other than loving and defending the wikipedia. maybe jealousy or to prove a point, or to flex wiki muscles, I have no idea. I don't have and never had 'wiki-jealousy' or feel the need to slash away at ambiguously notable ppl. I have been simply trying to adhere to the rules, creating pages (Button King, Golden Eagle Regional Park and Sports Complex, and I just helped oon the Navy Yard Aaron Alexis thing) and not editing DD page except those two minor times after RRevents neut. where I made totally minor uncontroversial edits to correct wrong info.

Anyway, Duffbeerforme has quickly slapped tags on everything associated with me. I don't care what happens per se as long as it is FAIR.

It seems fishily unfair at this point to me and I am trying to be careful pointing fingers. It's weird for this user to start hacking away at a very admittedly grey area as if its some clear-cut flagrant violation of some highly prized moral code he's crusading on. I made a page about me, it was neutralized, I corrected it, uhh, LOTS of time transpired where I either did nothing, or edited other pages.

The DD page is a listing of a man, a person (me) who seems fairly notable despite fragmented open source citation material, and virtually or not virtually, admittedly absolutely zero major media. WHICH IS WHY I was characterized initially as OUTSIDER MUSICIAN! read the entry, thats me almost to a T but I digress...

For the interest of your time and efforts please realize Revent was the first user who neutralized the DD page. It can be done again, but DELETING Dennis Donaghy, Blanket Statementstein, and Dirt Bike Annie over this is seriously weird since I had nothing to do with either of those bands since I left, nobody was questioning their pages and now they are due to my page being suspect.

You guys should leave Adam's andd Mike's pages alone (Rabuck and Wagner) they don't deserve to be part of this witchhunt, if its me you want knock me out of the wikipedia I wanted that in the fucking first place

This is so frustrating, but thx guys (meaning guys and or gals)

Dennis

So that's it. I'm done. (with this afd defending myself bs, not done contributing quality volunteer work here lynching successful or no. squigglies. Phaedrx (talk) Phaedrx (talk) 10:25, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * This is the Help Desk for requesting help with using or finding your way around Wikipedia. AfDs should be discussed on the relevant discussion page.  If you genuinely feel you are being wikihounded by a user systematically reverting your past contributions or nominating them for deletion, you can report it to administrators at WP:ANI, but their first concern, like any other users', will be with the individual merits of each revert or AfD nomination. Other than that I'm afraid there's little for us to do here, unless you have a specific question. -  Ka renjc (talk) 11:11, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

in the interest of full disclosure I felt the need to prominently publish the above text,  verbatim, on my personal Official Artist Website at www,phaedrx.com and use it as a platform to defend myself, however MY site's rules govern what I can do there. I am acting with love and in righteousness as I always do. I am not simply gonna sit and take this if I think it's wrong. Please be fair. Thanks. squigglies Phaedrx (talk) 10:39, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

List of Columbo Episodes
Im very disappointed to discover that the listings on Columbo Episodes has been changed to cancel out the co-stars names and the brief description of the episode. I found the links to the co stars really helpful. Why is when something id perfect, some one has to go screw it up? Can we have the forum back exactly how it was please?

Wikipedia User (unhappy) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.9.137 (talk) 10:32, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The article List of Columbo episodes was changed by User:StewieBaby05 in this edit, without an edit summary to explain. If you are considering reverting the change, take a look at WP:BRD and WP:DR. You could discuss the changes with them on their talk page or on the talk page of the article and try to reach consensus on how the article should read. -  Ka renjc (talk) 11:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Have you seen that the details on the main list were moved to season lists? For example, List of Columbo episodes now starts with:


 * PrimeHunter (talk) 16:44, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Merge context and delete redirect page.
Hello! If there is a page A, which contains useful context should be merged to article B. Usually, we should copy context to page B, and redirect A to B, this way can keep history. But if redirect A to B is not appropriate, how should we do that? Delete A directly, or copy context of A to B, then delete page A, though it will lost history? --15:52, 29 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Annennd (talk • contribs)


 * Our license doesn't allow to delete the history of content still used in another article. Please give an example of A and B where A is merged to B but shouldn't redirect to B. Maybe A and its history could be moved to another title where a redirect to B is OK. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:48, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Bechtel Corporation page is obvious propaganda put out by the multinational corporation
The Bechtel Corporation page is obvious propaganda put out by the multinational corporation and has clear examples of disinformation (a link at the bottom is listed as an anti-globalization take on Bechtel's role in the Bolivian Water Wars, but instead it goes to a description of water balloon fights during carnival).

This is embarrassing......

Michael Benton — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.69.46.14 (talk) 16:57, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello Michael. I agree that there is too much detail in the article Bechtel, but the tone does not strike me as overly promotional. If you have improvements to make to any article in Wikipedia, you are invited to be bold and make them. If you are not confident in doing this, or you think your changes may be controversial, you should raised the issue on the article's talk page, here Talk:Bechtel. --ColinFine (talk) 17:11, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Please assume good faith and ask a question like "Why does the link go there?" instead of making up accusations. The link is http://www.democracyctr.org/bolivia/investigations/water/ which currently redirects to http://democracyctr.org/blogfrombolivia/water-balloon-wars/. The url's are a big clue that the content may have changed. Indeed, the old content shown here at the Wayback Machine was very critical of Bechtel. Wikipedia has no control over democracyctr.org and I cannot say why they redirected the original article, but I have updated Wikipedia's link.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bechtel&diff=575023981&oldid=573445665] PrimeHunter (talk) 17:19, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Michael, I would like to add a reminder that Wikipedia is volunteer-based, so if you have a problem with the neutrality of an article, you are encouraged to volunteer to help shape it into a more neutral tone. Alternatively, the best place to post your objections is on the article's talk page, which should attract editors who are familiar with the subject matter.  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:53, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Help with preloaded page
Hi, I tried nominating an editor for autopatrol but when I put his name in the preloaded Subst:REVISIONUSER, his entire user page came up. . Malke 2010 (talk) 17:33, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * If you are nominating someone else, you need to delete, and replace that with the user's name, with no "User:" prefix. That's not obvious, is it? -- John of Reading (talk) 18:02, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * If I were trying to put your name in the nomination I believe that I would change "" to "Malke 2010", as it is just looking for the username, but I think you changed it to the equivalent of "", and it did what you asked it to do and subst'ed the user page. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:03, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Yes, you're right. After I saw my error, I experimented without the  but I must have been persisting in putting User:name. I just tried it as you suggested and it worked fine. Thanks so much. Malke 2010 (talk) 19:21, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Ryan Williams (footballer born 1978)
under the page of footballer Ryan Williams it says he plays for gainsborough trinity when he now plays for scarborough athletic — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.180.180 (talk) 17:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * There's no page protection from IP's, so you can make the edit yourself if you have a citation. You can also request help with an edit on the article's talk page. Malke 2010 (talk) 17:45, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

maths
the sum of three positive numbers is constant.prove that there product is maximum when they are equal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.38.22.23 (talk) 20:31, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Welcome to . Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misinterpretation, but it is our aim here not to do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn nearly as much as doing it yourself. Please attempt to solve the problem or answer the question yourself first. If you need help with a specific part of your homework, feel free to tell us where you are stuck and ask for help. If you need help grasping the concept of a problem, by all means let us know. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:44, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Welcome to . Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misinterpretation, but it is our aim here not to do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn nearly as much as doing it yourself. Please attempt to solve the problem or answer the question yourself first. If you need help with a specific part of your homework, feel free to tell us where you are stuck and ask for help. If you need help grasping the concept of a problem, by all means let us know. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:44, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Wrong link to the other language
This page: Gossnab has a wrong link to Russian page. It is linked to link instead of link 2. I do not know how to fix this, would apreciate your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.105.10.188 (talk) 21:33, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. At the bottom of the page source, I changed Народный комиссариат продовольствия СССР to Госснаб СССР . Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:51, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I removed it entirely, as the link is already provided by Wikidata. --  Gadget850talk 11:21, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Political bias
The article on Romania is politically biased and contains questionable information, thus being unreliable, mostly in areas regarding current issues such as the living standard or the freedom of the press, but also in areas dealing with Romania's recent history. I strongly advise an urgent revision of this article, and please avoid the involvement of any presidential party members in the writing of this article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.137.13.151 (talk) 22:34, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia does not exclude people from contributing on the basis of their political affiliations. If you have specific issues with the article, I suggest you raise than at Talk:Romania. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:48, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Greenhouse
Dear editors: Is there a specific amount of time that articles in MfD are discussed before closure? An editor on this discussion page refers to the discussion as closed, but I don't see the usual coloured box. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 23:27, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * It's not closed. Which post are you referring to? Miscellany for deletion says "Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days". Sometimes it's longer. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:34, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I was referring to the final item at the end of the discussion. Perhaps it refers to another discussion elsewhere. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 01:30, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Wasn't the comment referring to the closure of the RFC, not the closure of the MFD? - David Biddulph (talk) 08:12, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, WP:RFC and WP:MFD are different processes. Deletion debates are not called RFC's. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:38, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, PrimeHunter, for clarifying, and David Biddulph, for finding the Rfc for me. I've been following this thread because I am interested in what will happen to a project that was intended to be a collaboration and ends up being used mainly by one person, since I like to start projects myself. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 14:10, 1 October 2013 (UTC)