Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2013 September 5

= September 5 =

Close wikipedia account
I wish to close my wikipedia account - how do I do it? Tnuag (talk) 04:42, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * See WP:VANISH for guidance. RudolfRed (talk) 05:59, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Artist BIO Page
Dear Wikipedia,

I represent an artist known worldwide by her artist/stage name, JES. I have edited her Wiki BIO page intro to read:

Jes Brieden, professionally known as JES, is an American singer, songwriter, producer, composer, and DJ

I am trying to edit the title of the page, to correct it to JES, instead of "Jes Brieden" thats how the page should be titled for search as well since thats her commonly known name, it will lead to more searches at Wiki.

As example, I can cite pages like Beyonce, Madonna, and BT, all are titled as the artist name, and refer to the birth name in the text.

Please let me know how we can correct this article title,

Jes Brieden

should be-

JES

Thanks again, Kind Regards, Tom Fritze

Planetjes (talk) 08:06, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Firstly, as the artists representative, you have a clear conflict of interest, so, other than in very limited areas, you should not be editing the article, please read WP:COI before editing it further. Secondly, Wikipedia's house style for article titles WP:TITLES is against all capitals. Specifically, WP:TITLETM states "Items in full or partial uppercase (such as Invader ZIM) should have standard capitalization (Invader Zim)" so in our house style it would be Jes. Thirdly we already have a page JES, which is a disambiguation page - a page listing articles relating to "JES" - including Jes Brieden. Even ignoring our house style, we cannot have two pages with the same title, so you could not have JES in any case. Arjayay (talk) 09:16, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * If JES is her WP:COMMONNAME, could the article be named "JES (artist)"? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:28, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * My understanding of WP:TITLES is that it would have to be "Jes (artist)" Arjayay (talk) 11:59, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * You´re probably right. I can´t say if it´s the best name for the article, but it might be a helpful redirect. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:51, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

New company logo - Schillings
Hi All We are looking for some assistance in updating our company logo on Wikipedia. Right now the logo is our old corporate logo but following a re-brand we are now using a different logo. Our Wikipedia page is: Schillings Our corporate website can be found here for logo verification: http://www.schillings.co.uk Thank you in advance for your help. Best regards, Schillings — Preceding unsigned comment added by 127.0.0.1 (talk) 11:00, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅. Schillings now has File:Schillings law logo.png. I don't know if you want the background colour or transparency. Your graphics dept. should be able to check it out. If they don't like it then have them post the url of a .png file. .Jpg doesn't do transparency. They can respond here or the article talk page.--Canoe1967 (talk) 12:04, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

How to remove a duplicate article
Dear editors:

Two months ago I accepted this article: 24 - Indian version (2013) at the Afc. Unfortunately, I didn't notice that there was another article, 24 (Indian TV series), already written about this series. I have transferred all references and the few words of new content to the original article. Should I now change the duplicate into a redirect? Or should it be deleted? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 14:01, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * There's no harm in just blanking the content and replacing it with a redirect to the correct article. If you do want to delete it, however, you can blank the page and replace it with a CSD template with the G7 criteria. —  Richard  BB  14:10, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think G7 would apply, since I was the reviewer rather than author of the article. I will make a redirect.  Thanks.  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 17:38, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

how many days for uploading
i have uploaded a page. how do i know it has been accepted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itishri jain (talk • contribs) 14:24, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * You have not uploaded an article to the encyclopedia. You have loaded some content onto your user page, but it appears to be content copied from one of many web pages that use the same phraseology (such as http://www.kabalarians.com/Female/itishree.htm), and therefore probably a copyright violation and liable to speedy deletion. The purpose of a user page is outlined at User pages. I notice also that your page is malformatted because you have left leading spaces at the beginning of each line. I have added a number of useful links to your user talk page. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:38, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

templates on mobile site
Hello, I am using the Mobile Wikipedia site but I don't see any templates anymore. I used to see them before and they were useful for navigation for me. Is there any way to enable templates on the mobile Wikipedia site? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skronie (talk • contribs) 14:39, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * As I understand it, the mobile interface is still in beta and subject to change as more functionality is added. I suspect that the loss of templates is temporary. If you are still without them after a few more days, please report it to WP:VPT.--ukexpat (talk) 14:47, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Navigation sticky?
I posted an idea in this article: Angiotensin II receptor antagonist

Yes I was doing medical research, but I'm not looking for medical advice. I just want to be able to figure out what I'm reading more simply. When I'm given a sentence that says something like This blocks the action of angiotensin II receptors, and then I have to click through to find out what that is (happens a lot with medical articles), I sometimes end up with multiple windows or tabs open after a long session of looking things up.

Some kind of navigation help would be nice because I sometimes then go get a nap, and when I return to my computer (still on), I don't remember how I got there or why I was looking at the angiotensin article (in general, about all of them), or which article to read to pick up the thread where I left off. Not to mention trying to explain my thought process to someone else.

This is similar to the old 1995 website problem of "I have a website, look at my cool links that send you to other websites full of links! And on and on and on!" LoL! Probably the people who understand medical terms don't need the in-article explanations, and the people who don't, they treat adding explanations as a chore. I understand, so maybe good navigation tools is the way to go here. Please consider it. Thanks! 24.225.67.129 (talk) 14:41, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * If you create an account (which is free, and has other advantages too), you can then enable a tool called navigation popups, which will give you at least part of what you are asking for. --ColinFine (talk) 15:19, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Subsets of administrator privileges
Does Wikipedia have a mechanism whereby appropriately vetted editors may be granted subsets of the usual administrator privileges? —Trappist the monk (talk) 16:02, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Privileges such as reviewer and rollbacker can be granted to non-administrators; see Special:ListGroupRights. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:13, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I was unaware of that page, which pretty much answers my question. Thanks. —Trappist the monk (talk) 16:21, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * See also Perennial proposals. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:08, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

John Thomas Young (Baseball)
Hello--I am working with baseball player John Thomas Young to update his bio on Wikipedia. I'm uncertain how to verify my sources to edit changes when in fact the source is the person for whom we are creating the bio? Can you guide me to the best way to make and keep the changes on Wikipedia? Your help is much appreciated.

Enlightenbiz (talk) 17:36, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Because of your conflict of interest, please use the article's talk page to request the changes and provide references to reliable sources to support them.--ukexpat (talk) 17:44, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * You can't reference anything in that article back to stuff Mr Young tells you verbally or in unpublished correspondence. It may sound odd that he cannot be a reliable source for information for an encyclopaedia article about him, but that's the way Wikipedia works as a tertiary source.  Find reliable published sources to support any changes you want to make, and follow ukexpat's advice about requesting rather than making them yourself. -  Ka renjc 17:58, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Quickly assessing the importance of many articles within a WikiProject
I'm working through the backlog of articles of unassessed importance in WikiProject: Punk Music. It is rather tedious to have to click each individual page, click over to the article to get an idea of the subject, click edit on the talk page, manually change the assessment, click 'save page,' rinse, and repeat. Since Punk Rock bands are inherently obscure and underground, a vast majority of the articles are of low importance. Is there a way to assess the importance of multiple articles at once, for instance a checklist where I can check off each article I want to be changed to low importance, or even a way to make the process a little bit faster? Wall Screamer (talk) 19:41, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * This sounds like something WP:AWB should be able to do, though not with a checklist as you suggest. I'd ask over there.  Dismas |(talk) 19:51, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll look into it. Thank you! Wall Screamer (talk) 20:12, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Is HTTPS enough? / Rules for Alt Accounts.
Hello everyone at the help desk! Sorry for boring you guys with so many questions (or rather, I'm about to! ;) But they really need to be asked, so here it goes. I am a fairly established (3+ years, 1300+ edits) user, but I am a bit paranoid about using my account on public computers (specifically, my school library, which I am typing this from now...) Now, my school's IP address is blocked (always is, actually - as an open proxy) but, as an experienced Wikipedian I decided to see what happened when I tried HTTPS... turns out, the IP address changes - to the old IP address we used before switching to Ubuntu linux a couple years back (this address has a vandalism record from 2007-2011, which is when the OS change happened.) There also appears to be one contrib from May of this year, a quick drive-by vandalism. So now, I can edit from this computer, and I don't think anyone else here (don't know any other editors, actually) know about the HTTPS server, so it's safe to say I'm the only one that can use this static IP address. Enough context, though - on to the problems: As I stated earlier, I am uncomfortable using my main account (which I do not wish to reveal due to IP geolocating, etc.) on these public computers, but I'll be using them alot; so I would really like a way to edit. The first thing that came to my head was an alternate account. I know under certain circumstances these are allowed. However, I have some questions about it: Thanks for your time, and sorry for writing so much! --142.31.214.20 (talk) 19:57, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) If I do decide to make an Alt account, I would really rather not have a name like "User:Example's Alternate Account" or "User:Example Alt". I would really like to just have another name. I would clearly link the two accounts through the userpages, and in addition I'd redirect the talk page of the alternate to my main account's talk page. Is this allowed?
 * 2) Also, I have a pretty good idea of some names I would like to use for an Alt account, if I make it. However, these names are already taken - but they would (to my knowledge) be able to be usurped (no edits, created over a year+ ago etc.) Would it be possible to create a "placeholder account" then usurp it to my desired username? I could make note of my main account at that venue to prove I'm an active user and would put the account to good use.
 * 3) Just for curiosity (as I'm leaning towards the Alt account route, anyway) just how secure is the HTTPS server at protecting the flow of information?
 * 4) And finally, why would it be that my school's IP address changes to the old one when browsing with HTTPS?
 * It would be best to base the alternate account on your main account name like User:myUser-alt or myuser-public or something like that. Redirect the user and talk pages to your main account pages, and optionally but recommended, change the signature so it looks like your normal account signature.  The main point of the alternate account policy is that people should not appear to be two different people, and especially never for the purposes of creating the illusion of support for the other account's position in a debate or discussion.  Just make it clear that both accounts are you, and you will be fine.  Gigs (talk) 20:09, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry I missed a few of your questions. HTTPS is very secure, however if the computer is public, someone could always install a new root certificate which would allow them to impersonate any site and have it trusted by the browser.  This would require a high level of technical sophistication on the part of someone with physical access to the computer though.  Regarding the IP address change, it is probably due to HTTPS bypassing the proxy or something of that sort.  Gigs (talk) 20:13, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * (after )No problem - thanks for the HTTPS info. For the alt account, best but not required, right? I just really don't like the looks of accounts like that, if you know what I mean. I have a custom signature that nobody else used right now (and it's quite distinct) - I would make the sig for my alt pretty much exactly the same as my main account, maybe even popping in ("myname"'s alternate account) onto the end... also since I do want a different name, would it be OK to make the placeholder account to usurp the name I want(and would I need to prove I'm an active user with my main account)? Thanks, --142.31.214.20 (talk) 20:16, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You may have trouble usurping a name on a brand new account. Usually usurpation is for established accounts.  If you make the sig nearly identical and the user and talk pages redirect to the main account, then that would probably be enough that you would not necessarily have to have very similar user names.  I would not use a really long sig with all that in subscript, that's kind of tacky and frowned upon.  Anyway, just make it easy to tell that both accounts are the same person and you will be fine. Gigs (talk) 17:38, 6 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I've seen it done before (I often drop by venues like that just for fun to see what's happening there...) and I think I'll give it a go. I'll just make the placeholder, then log into my main account to confirm that I'm an active user and will put the account to good use. Re the sig, my signature is relatively streamlined; though I'm sure I can think of an alternative to the subscript if needed (my current one has superscript for user talk, but I'd probably leave the talk link out of the Alt's sig altogether) If all things work out I promise to make it really easy to tell both are me.
 * Also, just to note - starting now I will not edit from this IP address now, so any foolishness seen by this IP in the future is not me! ;)
 * Thanks for all the help, Gigs. --142.31.214.20 (talk) 19:16, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Reference: My reference is errored. Is there a cut and paste?
Is there a cut and paste for references? I need one. I can't figure out what I did wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TexasLadyinCA (talk • contribs) 21:10, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm not sure what mean by a "cut and paste for references". If you're using our standard editor (not the Visual Editor), just above the edit window where you type, you'll find a series of tools: "Bold, Italic, signature," etc.  At the far right is "Cite".  Click on that, select the appropriate template, and fill in the blanks where appropriate.  That should format your references easily and well.  Hope that helps.  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:54, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * UPDATE: -- I think I took care of the issues for you.  You were missing the  template, had two HTTPs in the URL, (http://http//idf.org) and you were missing some formatting parameters, (Diabetes and tuberculosis vs. title=Diabetes and tuberculosis).  Anyhow, I think that'll do it.  Thanks for your contribution to Wikipedia!  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:08, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It looks as if you've got into a tangle with further edits you made after Cyphoidbomb corrected your earlier efforts. I have added some comments to your user talk page. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:19, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Bit of sabotage going on here!
Just thought I should let you know. The link for "Scottish National Party" on the first lane of this page:

Arthur Donaldson

actually links to the wikipedia page for "Nazi_Party". I don't think I need to explain how offensive this slur is.

Yours,

Alastair Mabbott

94.175.82.127 (talk) 22:03, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up about what was clearly vandalism. It was fixed by user FormerIP.  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:10, 5 September 2013 (UTC)