Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 April 24

= April 24 =

archangrlshow many were there?
how many archangals were there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.206.100.221 (talk) 03:09, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. You could try the Reference Desk.   The  Cascadian  05:39, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * ...or read the Archangel article. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:28, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Where can I find a Bot?
Is there a Bot that can change External links into references, retaining the text, separated from the URL by a space, within the article?

I'm probably just being lazy, but Apple community is just a riot of External Links, however, several sections would be entirely unreferenced if these were all simply removed. Arjayay (talk) 10:57, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * you can use the "cite" button above the editing box and drop the URL into the appropriate "news" / "book" / "web" drop down and it will automatically call up a lot of the citation specs. its a couple of manual clicks for each link and review for missing info, but its not that difficult.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom
 * It would be nice to have a cite button - but as an IE user, it stopped working ages ago, and now doesn't even waste pixels by appearing on my screen at all ;-0 Arjayay (talk) 14:38, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You could get Chrome... -- Jayron  32  15:18, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * IT won't let me - Arjayay (talk) 15:30, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * What won't let you? -- Jayron  32  17:38, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I suspect this is a work computer and the IT department won't let him install Chrome. --  Gadget850talk 01:04, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe Arjayay may have been referring to a large number of external links embedded in the text of (particularly) the "9to5Mac" section. In April 2013 'helpfully' turned all the properly cited references into embedded links, all to 9to5mac.com. I also note that many of them were removed by other editors shortly after Apollozac did  it, and more since this discussion started. There are still a hell if a lot left though, three in the first paragraph, 18 in total in that section alone seems very excessive, 'walls' of !

WP:EL states External links "should not normally be placed in the body of an article". I'm not sure why the word "normally" appears - I can't see an example of where "abnormally" they can be placed in the bodytext, and editors have used this to argue for the retention of ELs. The article in question was just a sea of blue, and many of these links were promotional in nature. Thanks to 220 of Borg many of these have now been converted to references. Do I assume the answer to my original question is that there is no such Bot? - Arjayay (talk) 16:31, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Another way to 'fix' this situation is to manually turn the links into refs with bare URLs, and then use Reflinks to fill in most of the citation 'fields' for you--220  of  Borg 15:57, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Correct about the IT, and correct about the external links embedded in the text.

Editing pages that have been translated from another language into English
I have enjoyed occasionally correcting grammar or spelling mistakes in pages that are primarily in English. I used a page on Laura Evangelista Alvarado Cardozo, known as Mother Mary of St. Joseph and clicked for it to be translated into English. This was done...but...it needed a fair bit of correction as the gender of the saint was often mistranslated. I clicked the edit word and the edit facility appeared...but...back in Spanish. Just a note - that needs no reply - but would open the door for those who can correct computer-translations a little more accurately IF there is access to the translations as well as the original language(s) from which the page has been computer-translated. I don't think it was my computer (which isn't too expensive a one), I trust that, in time, this opportunity will present itself. Thank you. Jonathan Mallard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.64.192.165 (talk) 13:49, 24 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia has no facility for computer translation. I suspect you used a feature in your browser, maybe Google Translate. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:55, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * If Internet Explorer was used, it may have been Bing if the user got it through a right click and may have thought it was part of this site. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:15, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Matilda Ziegler: I can't find a free image for her infobox
I just found this: and I don't know can I upload that image (or an edited version of it) to Wikipedia? Alternatively, it's good if other editors find her image and add it to her infobox, because I didn't upload such images before and I'm not familiar with "reuse" rights. --Zyma (talk) 15:30, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * 
 * The Flickr page says "Some rights reserved", with three tiny icons nearby. Hovering the mouse over those icons pops up the text "Attribution", "Noncommercial", and "No derivative works". Those last two are incompatible with the free license that Wikipedia requires, so it cannot be uploaded here. Sorry. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:55, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay. Thanks John of Reading. I hope other editors find an image for the infobox. --Zyma (talk) 17:02, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

I want to submitt my article to review
Hi, I want to send my article for reviewing, the only one that I made, to check if it is possible to upload it in wikipedia. I don not know how to do it. Thanks, Juan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdoyarzun (talk • contribs) 15:42, 24 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Press the green button saying "Submit your draft when you are ready for it to be reviewed!" at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Felipe Browne. Then click Save page. That's it. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:49, 24 April 2014 (UTC)


 * This article is of a much higher standard that almost all new articles by new contributors. I believe it deserves to be accepted; but I know nothing about music. One thing puzzles me:
 * The title of the article is "Felipe Browne".
 * His name is given in the first sentence as "Felipe Browne Braun".
 * Within the article, he is sometimes referred to as "Felipe", sometimes as "Browne".
 * More consistency would be good. Maproom (talk) 20:26, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I've now learned about Spanish surnames, understood the "Browne Braun", and added the "Spanish naming" template to the article. But there should still be consistency in whether to refer to him as "Felipe" or "Browne" in the article. Maproom (talk) 20:51, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tharthan
I'm not sure if this should go here or on the reference desk, but either way:

Could someone help me get those user boxes into a nice stack like I see on other Wikipedian's userpages? I've tried, but... it doesn't seem to work. Tharthandorf Aquanashi (talk) 16:39, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Special:Permalink/605627449: Is this what you are looking for? Glaisher   [talk]  16:49, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Random halfway-related aside: something in the second box there (the majority != right one) doesn't seem to be closed, but I cannot pinpoint what. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:13, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Special:Diff/605631224 Glaisher   [talk]  17:15, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks much! :D One last question, though: if I wanted to another thing to it in the future, is there anything I should keep in mind? Tharthandorf Aquanashi (talk) 17:33, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * As long as you add the new userbox somewhere between the and  templates you should be fine.  If you want to put material on your userpage that is not to go in the stack of userboxes, put it after the  template.  Spinning  Spark  18:32, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks much! =D Tharthandorf Aquanashi (talk) 19:00, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

I would like to start a new article.
Dear Sir I'm trying to start a new article in the cycle manufactures page. I noticed that there is no mention of Trimble cycles from Berryville Arkansas USA. Started, made & designed by Brent Trimble. With help from his brother Roo Trimble. They started in 1988 making a carbon mtb. Then a racing bike. The company ended in 1998 due financial problems. The company was restarted in 2005 till 2007 when again production stopped. I have pictures of these bikes. This brand is not in you list of cycle manufactures. Please can you help? Many Thanks Tony — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tony L Cartledge (talk • contribs) 17:39, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * see the basic requirements for having a stand alone article. Does the company meet them? If so, you may gather your reliably published third party sources and follow the process at WP:AFC or you can suggest that someone else create the article at WP:RA. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  18:26, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

"league championships" for football teams
The way league championships are counted for football teams needs to be changed. Right now, only Super Bowl championships are counted as league championships (look at the Oakland Raider spage for example). Things is, there have been other leagues besides the NFL, like when the AFL was its own separate league. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afm2105 (talk • contribs) 18:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  02:00, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Welsh College
Please can you add www. Brfcyd.com / www.gowercollegecollegeswansea.ac.uk  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr William Smith (BSc HONS) (talk • contribs) 19:11, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Which of those URLs do you want added, and to what article? (The best place to make your request is probably the article's talk page.) Maproom (talk) 20:56, 24 April 2014 (UTC)