Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 April 6

= April 6 =

Sandboxes: Template Size is Too Large??
Hello, wondering if anyone could help me find a remedy for my query. When using sandboxes, on my large size sandboxes I get this warning message:

"Warning: Template include size is too large. Some templates will not be included."

Is there anything I can do to fix this? As in so all my templates will be included in an update? Or is this the limit? Hopefully the former.

Thanks, R96Skinner (talk) 04:23, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Done some further research, unfortunately just seems like it's a "problem" with Wikipedia itself. That's what it seems anyway, If anyone has any further infomation please let me know.

Thanks, R96Skinner (talk) 04:36, 6 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Substituting or removing the templates or splitting the page are the options you have. See WP:TLIMIT for more. -- Glaisher  [talk]  04:43, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello, yes I thought so. Thanks for your infomation!

R96Skinner (talk) 06:40, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Do deleted edits count towards autoconfirmation?
Dear editors: Sometimes in my work at Afc a new editor will create a draft article over a period of several days with many edits, and in the process be autoconfirmed. Then, not knowing any better, the user will copy-paste the text, either into another draft or to mainspace.

Admins don't like to do history merges in a case like this, since there are no attribution issues. The old draft would most likely just be deleted as no longer needed. My question is, do these deleted edits count toward autoconfirmation, or could the user, having now only one edit, lose his or her confirmed status? I have assumed no, but I'd like to be sure. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 04:58, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * They don't lose their autoconfirmed status as $wgAutoConfirmCount looks for the total number of edits made by the user, not only live edits. -- Glaisher  [talk]  08:10, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I feel better now about all of the c&p fragments that I have nominated for deletion. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 11:16, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Wishing/Wanted articles
When I search Dfkldfkjlfsdklf (just an example) on Wikipedia, I get "There were no results matching the query. The page "Dfkldfkjlfsdklf" does not exist. You can ask for it to be created, but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered. For search help, please visit Help:Searching."

The link "ask for it to be created" should link me directly to a formula, with the article name (here: Dfkldfkjlfsdklf) already filled out and a possibility to add further information on the subject and an explanation how the user can write a real article. Convenient and easy for-not-so-computer-science-experienced-user. Thanks. 78.35.229.65 (talk) 11:59, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * This is a good suggestion and you should bring it up at the Village pump idea lab. There it can receive third party comments and eventually it might be moved to the Proposals or the Technical part of the Village Pump. Please let me know if you need more help making this proposal. -Thibbs (talk) 15:11, 6 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Unregistered users are not permitted to create article pages themselves. Hence, a link to an editing window cannot be provided.  Such a link is provided for registered users.  Registering an account is quick and easy and has several other benefits.  Spinning  Spark  16:37, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * This editor was asking for the link to "ask for it to be created" in search to go to a template/form to fill out, presumably where the link already points, which is WP:AFC (though I could see this going to WP:RA as well). Neither of those venues requires an account to get started, and it's doable, as the technique of pre-populating a new section is already used on some noticeboards. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:30, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * But we want users at WP:AFC to read advice first before deciding whether to try to write an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:20, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Heanddesting it is a adjective. it is founded at 2005. Father of Heanddesting MD Ibrahim Ullah — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.202.253.45 (talk) 09:02, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

ACC Baseball tournament 1984
Hello- my name is Todd Wilkinson and i was the MVP of the 1984 ACC Baseball Tournament. Wikipdedia has listed me as such but i was an outfielder and not a shortstop. please change my position. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.57.116.149 (talk) 13:38, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Which article are you talking about? I see you listed as MVP at 1984 Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball Tournament, but it doesn't call you shortstop or outfielder. It just lists your name. Also do you know of any good written sources that may have reported your position for the 1984 season? -Thibbs (talk) 15:20, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Presumably this is about Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball Tournament, where there is an "SS" for him in the table of champions by year. I am going to look for a source, but the first source I looked at lists him as shortstop, which is probably how it ended up in the article.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:28, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Todd, I've found a good source. Will make the change with the source momentarily.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:36, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Damaris WHO? (?!!)
Dear Sirs -

First of all... I LOVE (appx.) 97% of the (cooking/food) shows that you air on your channel... hands DOWN! I appreciate that immensely. They stimulate my imagination for preparing delicious dishes for my fiance and I. The vast majority of the chefs whom you "star" in/on your shows have QUITE "impressive" C.V.'s (e.g., Giada DeLaurentis); however, others (in particular, Damaris Phillips) are... well, why in the world is she even "on the air" AT ALL?! For ONE thing, I checked on Wikipedia... and THEY aren't even QUITE sure WHEN she was BORN... "somewhere between 1980 and 1981"... to a family consisting of "four brothers and sisters" (EACH?.. 4 brothers and 4 sisters?), and has "a degree" from a community college in Tennessee, only because she didn't know what ELSE to do in Life?!! And you have her "on the air" simply because she is "from the South" and has a pulse?! For ONE thing, although I was born & grew up in "the North(east)", I lived "down South" for well over a decade of my life. However, I found NOTHING terribly "endearing" about the cuisine of that culture to warrant SOooo much attention as your channel seems to have! I'm sorry, but... it just seems like you could provide your audience with an alternative (high) quality show starring someone other than Damaris Phillips (e.g., Giada DeLaurentis, Sandra Lee, Kelsey Nixon, Guy Fieri, Bobby Flay... heck, even Robert Irvine). ;-) ANYway, as I said above, I DO appreciate your shows (by-and-large), and appreciate you airing such high-quality, "educational" TV, given that almost everything ELSE that's broadcasted is "brain-feces" (to put it "nicely").  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gomphus69 (talk • contribs) 15:32, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * @Gomphus69:  I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:37, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Production Code
Hi. I wanted to post this in a more dedicated forum, tried the "Television Portal" but a message there advised that I am not likely to get the desired response. So I am posting it here. User: Dk113040 has been adding "production code" to a whole bunch of pages on televiskion series. Does anyone see any value in this? I for one don't. I doubt that a significant number of readers/ users know what a production code is and to anyone who does, it really adds no value whatsoever to the page. If we are going to retain it, could we at least link it to Production code number in the column heading? Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 15:46, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * PS: I've [notified] the author. Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 15:53, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * It might have been better to post this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television where production codes have been the subject of previous discussions. Opinion varies on the use of production codes. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 16:02, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, AussieLegend, as I said, I wanted to post this in a more dedicated forum, didn't know of this place.


 * Please note that this discusion has been moved to [here]. PLEASE do not post here. Thank you Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 18:17, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Can I add Award to article
Hi, I want to edit one article with adding Award to it. Can I do it as far I have either new paper or official link to approve it? thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maggiejhan (talk • contribs) 18:33, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * If the award is relevant, worthy of noting in a discussion of the subject and verifiable - and you do not have a conflict of interest in promoting either the award or the article subject - then yes you can add it. see  WP:REFB for how to cite it. If others disagree with your assessments, then you will need to discuss and come to a consensus before readding it. --  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  18:43, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Husan Sharif: Artical is posted about me that is a Fake (Take it down Immediately)
My name is Husan Sharif and their is an article about me that is giving false information about me. It is disrespectful and insulting please deleate it now. This is the link: Husan Sharif — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.215.16.154 (talk) 21:00, 6 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi, sorry for the upset caused by that article. It is not about you, but is about a long-dead person who apparently shared your name and was also well respected. I have trimmed some material from the article, perhaps it is less alarming for you now. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:06, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Something strange going on with User:Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever/sandbox/Sledgehammer
There is something strange going on with User:Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever/sandbox/Sledgehammer

Not sure whether this is a bug or something deliberate, but this either interferes with my ability to access a MfD page or it leads me to believe that the page has been nominated for deletion when it has not.

There is a normal tag in the source, but I cannot click on "this page's entry" or "Miscellany for deletion" using Firefox and Opera. In Chrome I can't click on "this page's entry" but I can click on "Miscellany for deletion". In IE I can click on both.

Also, there is no page at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever/sandbox/Sledgehammer, but the page is listed at Category:Miscellaneous pages for deletion.

Finally, there was some weirdness when I tried to highlight the "User:Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever/sandbox/Sledgehammer" in Firefox, but it worked fine in Opera, Chrome, and IE.

--Guy Macon (talk) 22:02, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The weirdness appears to be because of the extremely large font used below the template; if you remove it and show preview the text is clickable again. Sam Walton (talk) 22:25, 6 April 2014 (UTC)


 * The user moved the page from User:Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever/Sledgehammer to User:Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever/sandbox/Sledgehammer. The MfD was created when it had the former name so I updated the link to point to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever/Sledgehammer.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mr._Gonna_Change_My_Name_Forever/sandbox/Sledgehammer&diff=603067381&oldid=603053843] The huge font is indeed messing with some browsers. When I mark the large characters, my Firefox indicates the whole page height is being marked, so Firefox apparently thinks the MfD box is behind the large characters. That means they can be marked by dragging the mouse over the MfD box, and the links there cannot be clicked. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:42, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The font worked fine with Google Chrome on my HD Windows 8.1 Dell laptop, but finding the links to the articles on Sledgehammer (an upcoming independent Wikipedia journalism magazine created by me, Gonna) looked difficult. I had to click the link to the "Interview" segment, which was above the text itself near Jimmy Wales' face. Anything that's not Google Chrome can't view the font properly. I've postponed my plans for the magazine for a while because of Orange Mike's MfD of Sledgehammer, but the current verdict is Keep. }I Mr* &#124; (60nna) I{ 01:15, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The major cause for this glitch is the size of the "Sledgehammer" logo, not my choice of characters. I could make a image of the logo with those characters, thus reducing the glitch to a little ant. }I Mr* &#124; (60nna) I{ 01:17, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * http://browsershots.org/ is your friend. --Guy Macon (talk) 01:26, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you! }I Mr* &#124; (60nna) I{ 01:41, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I reduced the Sledgehammer logo's size for ease of readability. }I Mr* &#124; (60nna) I{ 01:47, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * In all honesty, an image sounds more beneficial as screen readers won't have to go "[character][character][character][character]..." (assuming they have the characters in their speech set), and alt text could more easily be specified. - Purplewowies (talk) 06:44, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Here's the image: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sledgehammer_logo,_2014.png (=D) }I Mr* &#124; (60nna) I{ 00:09, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The new Sledgehammer logo image is on the Sledgehammer page. }I Mr* &#124; (60nna) I{ 03:27, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

When editing I accidentally removed a video citation. How may I replace the citation?
When editing I accidentally removed a video citation. How may I replace the citation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.70.241.102 (talk) 22:58, 6 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Pick "View history" at the top of the page (you may need to pick a down arrow to display it first), find your edit, then pick "Undo". Then go back in and make your edit more carefully. StuRat (talk) 23:17, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Derek Partridge
Hi, I'm Derek Partridge, but for some reason Wikipedia would not let me use my name, so I became Derek Pheasant!

I found that someone had written a page about me. It contains numerous inaccuracies and omissions. I attempted to correct them, but got a message about Cite Errors and References. I attempted to contact Helpers through live chat and was answered, but what I then typed seemed to have no way to "Send" and it was never answered.

I found a communication from Sideways 713 about my deleting info from the page... I attempted to contact him, but found it impossible.

I have completely and correctly re-written the page about me and would simply like to be able to enter it. Hopefully some kind soul will see my plea and tell me how to do it!! Thanks.

Derek Partridge — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derek Pheasant (talk • contribs) 23:40, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello, AUTOBIO may have some answers about how to address issues.
 * However, because you have a conflict of interest you generally should not directly post to the article, particularly an entire re-write. Remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a directory. We base our content upon what reliably published third parties have written, not what the subject or their press corps want to have printed about them. If you have content and sources that will help bring the article up to date, please present them at Talk:Derek Partridge -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  23:52, 6 April 2014 (UTC)