Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 December 27

= December 27 =

Jaroslav Gebr
You should have a page for Jaroslav Gebr http://www.gebrart.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.15.124 (talk) 02:49, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * For that, we'd need evidence in third-party published reliable sources that he meets the relevant Wikipedia notability guidelines. From a quick search, there is this and this  but I'm not sure they are enough to justify an article. And if they were, we'd need someone to write it - we are volunteers here, and don't produce articles to order (there is Requested articles, but the list for the Arts and entertainment/Film, radio and television section is huge already). Of course, if you can find the sources, and were confident that they were sufficient to pass the notability guidelines, you could write the article yourself - see Your first article. If you are going to do that, I'd recommend registering an account here. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:03, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * User:Arielluria created a later deleted article at Jaroslav Gebr in 2007. It only contained this:
 * "Credited on 1989 episode of Columbo (Murder, A Self Portrait) to have painted all the art, including the portrait of Lieutenant Columbo shown at the very end of the episode.


 * According to IMDB he was also an artist for movies: The Sting (1973), Dark Shadows (1991), Sixth Sense (1999), and others."
 * You would have to do much better to get an article accepted. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:09, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input
I have created a page on Caroline Freeman, school principal in Dunedin and Christchurch, New Zealand.

I appear to have entered, incorrectly, a reference to Caroline Freeman's will. This is held at Archives New Zealand, Christchurch. In the will, Caroline makes Helene Cross her trustee and sole beneficiary. The estate was valued at under 1700 pounds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenawayr (talk • contribs) 09:05, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I have removed the empty which was causing an error message. Maproom (talk) 09:20, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * More important issue: the article needs more sources to demonstrate that the subject meets our notability guidelines. In its current state it's not clear (to me at least) that she does.--ukexpat (talk) 15:38, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Continued
Richard Greenaway has edited his entry on Caroline Freeman with a reference to the Otago witness of 14 August 1866. Iy is stated that Caroline Freeman promised to be a very good pupil=teacher. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenawayr (talk • contribs) 10:07, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Removed the empty ref tag again. I will post on Greenawayr's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 10:37, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I did, honest. But it appears got there before me, and Wikimedia just let me think I'd done it. --ColinFine (talk) 10:40, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Israel attacks to Iran Or Israel Cyber attacks to Iran
There are some articles about Cyber attacks to Iran by Israel and USA,
 * Operation Olympic Games
 * Stuxnet
 * Flame (malware)
 * Mahdi (malware)
 * Duqu

many source such as this reliable sources ( U.S. officials ) confirmed that Israel Intelligence service ( Mosad) is  teams with terror group to kill Iran's nuclear scientists. NBC NEWS

According to above articles and many reliable sources in News agencies ,Can I make an article about Israel attacks to Iran ? Do this article pass Wikipedia standards? Or can I make an article about Israel's cyber attacks to Iran?

Thanks.Hanami2 (talk) 11:14, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * If there are multiple reliable sources that discuss the subject as a subject (not you cobbling a bunch of similar things together) then potentially it is a viable article. But there may already be other articles that already exist that are better homes for such content and there are multiple reasons why such an article would not be appropriate. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  16:03, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

How to get a business put on wikipedia
How to get a business put on wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.32.201 (talk) 12:34, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * See Notability (organizations and companies). -- Juergen 178.200.29.147 (talk) 12:57, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Correct use of Wiktionary interwiki
In the phishing article there are three wiktionary interwiki links which may not belong there. MOS:LINK says: If there is no appropriate Wikipedia article, an interwiki link to Wiktionary could be used. Spear phishing redirects to phishing because there s no specific article on that topic, but the linked wiktionary article does not tell more than Phishing tells.

So should those wiktionary links be removed or should they be moved to a see also section ? -- Juergen 178.200.29.147 (talk) 12:51, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I removed the wiktionary links. As the MOS says, a link to wiktionary may be used if there is no encyclopedia article.  In this case, phishing is the encyclopedia article on the various types of phishing.  Robert McClenon (talk) 22:58, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. -- Juergen 178.200.29.147 (talk) 06:27, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Pronouncing Aitutaki
Where do I find how to pronounce Aitutaki ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.87.161.56 (talk) 12:59, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * You could ask on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cook Islands. -- Juergen 178.200.29.147 (talk) 13:06, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Or at Reference desk/Language for language-related questions in general. GermanJoe (talk) 13:30, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

How do I request an IBAN?
I have asked a question on the Help Desk about this recently and understand that IBAN requests have to be put to AN/I. I also understand the conditions imposed by an IBAN. However, I do not know how requests should be framed (e.g. what sort of diffs are needed) and wondered if there was anywhere I could look up previous IBAN requests to see how this is done, other than trawling through the AN/I archives. ~ P-123 (talk) 15:09, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * @P-123:  Hey P-123. You don't need to trawl, just search. For example, this narrowly-tailored search. You could probably find more if you took out the word proposed, though you'll also get more false-positives. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:55, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Fuhghettaboutit. ~ P-123 (talk) 00:55, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * What is the question, User:P-123? You and User:GregKaye are already arguing at WP:ANI.  If you want an interaction ban imposed, just ask for it as part of your response at WP:ANI.  Robert McClenon (talk) 23:01, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Robert McClenon: I heard about the AN/I Gregkaye has taken me to just after I came to the HD. It was unexpected.  It's a relief, to be frank, and it saves me the hassle of taking out an IBAN if I can request it at AN/I.  ~ P-123 (talk) 00:55, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia tools - who maintains them?
I am trying to provide some feedback to whomever maintains https://tools.wmflabs.org/afdstats/#. How do I go about it? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 15:20, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * According to the list at [] this tool is maintained by  User:Scottywong and User:Σ. GermanJoe (talk) 15:31, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

CC-BY text
Can I import CC-BY licensed text to an article in Wikipedia? Thanks. - Enekozar (talk) 15:59, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * @Enekozar:  Hi Enekozar. Yes, CC-By is compatible with our licenses. However, you still must provide attribution to the source of the text. Not doing so would be plagiarism. See Plagiarism. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:03, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * And just because the copyright status is acceptable, does not mean that the content is appropriate for an encyclopedia.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  16:06, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Word Count Template?
On some noticeboards there are requirements that statements be under a certain size, typically 500 words. Is there a template that does a word count to make it easy to see if you are over the limit? --Guy Macon (talk) 16:53, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * See T85376 as I think this is something that should be done by the software. That ticket needs more input from other users on how to count things that are transcluded from templates or whatnot. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 17:14, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * @Guy Macon:  Not exactly what you asked about, not an internal template, but you can use this to do a word count.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:34, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, there are many pages that count cut-and-pasted words, and in fact the instructions at the top of Arbitration/Requests/Case lists one such page, plus of course most word processors and text editors do word counts. Alas, if you look at Arbitration/Requests/Case you will see that multiple participants have exceeded the arbcom 500-word limit. I think it would be useful to be able to wrap a statement in a template that displays the count of words between template top and template bottom. Counting either the displayed words or the wikimarkup (I agree with Technical 13's comment that there is no need to account for transclusions) would do nicely. --Guy Macon (talk) 17:53, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Posting a PDF file
Please, how can I post this PDF file in an article so that someone can open it and read it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirswindon (talk • contribs)




 * It could probably listed as an external link in a directly relevant article (such as Economy of the Seychelles). See WP:EL for guidance. As an external link you would need to specify the URL where the file is hosted. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:37, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Special:Contributions/Sirswindon shows the file is actually called File:Economic study of the Seychelles completed in 1965 by futuologist Donald Prell.pdf. Are you Donald Prell who supposedly wrote the original text? If you only scanned it then you are not the copyright holder and cannot release it with a license unless the original text has a compatible license. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:55, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * It's better to use an external link to the original publication url (or a legitimate archive copy thereof) as I explained above. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:15, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

What to do
I seem to have a problem...the page Richard Milazzo was blanked, so I reverted, received a message. In the meantime.... What do we do in situations like this? Eman 235 / talk 21:07, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * What we do is inform whoever is blanking the article that they need to read Articles for deletion, and then start an AfD. We do not delete articles on request. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:18, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Andy Eman 235 / talk  21:29, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The editor in question is very new to Wikipedia and doesn't understand our collaborative processes. He has been advised that he can either request changes to the article or request its deletion.  Thank you, User:Eman235, for bringing this issue (which was good-faith but still very out-of-process) to the attention of the community.  Robert McClenon (talk) 21:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

"Blanked at the request of Richard Milazzo"

Take it to WP:BLPN and discus it. Meanwhile, don't bother edit-warring over it. BLP is kinda special. Get the full info, get a discussion going, get consensus. Igor the facetious xmas bunny (talk) 02:15, 28 December 2014 (UTC)


 * In particular, I see no attempts to ask the person.


 * I've tried now; see their talk page.


 * But the point is... when cluebot reverted, it inserted undereferenced claims into this BLP. That's bad...


 * Unreferenced BLP stuff should stay out until well-ref'd. Igor the facetious xmas bunny (talk) 02:25, 28 December 2014 (UTC)


 * You write that, when ClueBot reverted, it inserted under-referenced claims into a BLP. "That's bad."  That doesn't make sense.  ClueBot is a bot, not a human editor.  Anyway, ClueBot's revert was not a false positive.  The article had been improperly blanked, and blanking is not the proper method of dealing with BLP content disputes.  the BLP noticeboard is a reasonable suggestion, but there hasn't been any attempt so far to discuss on the article talk page.  Robert McClenon (talk) 05:50, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Twinkle Bug Reporting
Should bugs in Twinkle (in the case in point, failure to notify the originator of an article that it was tagged for speedy deletion) be reported at Village pump (technical), or somewhere else? Robert McClenon (talk) 22:00, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia talk:Twinkle is probably best. I assume you've checked which boxes are ticked at Twinkle/Preferences within your Twinkle preferences? -- John of Reading (talk) 22:08, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * See Twinkle. If this is about User talk:Skamecrazy123 then I don't see the problem. The page history of Hari Singh Nalwa (Scientist) starts with User:Hari Singh Nalwa (Scientist), and that's the user Twinkle notified.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20141227195455&limit=3&target=Skamecrazy123] PrimeHunter (talk) 22:21, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

There is no user account User:Hari Singh Nalwa (Scientist). It is a page in user space that is not associated with a user account. The page was actually created by User:Ukvariar. I then moved the page from user space into draft space. The originator then moved the page to article space. User:Skamecrazy123, as you note, then nominated the page for speedy deletion. The notice went onto the talk page of the non-existent user, not the user who created the article. Another editor contested the speedy deletion and removed the speedy tag. I then nominated the article for deletion via AFD. Once again, Twinkle put the notice on the page of the non-existent user. I manually copied the notice to the talk page of the real user. There is a problem. It is subtle; it may only happen due to weird preconditions. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:31, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * You are correct. That account made one edit, in 2011, to create a BLP that reads like a resume.  Notifying the editor who promoted the page into article space was an appropriate courtesy, not a requirement.  Robert McClenon (talk) 22:36, 27 December 2014 (UTC)