Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 January 24

= January 24 =

Name Change On an Article
When you google New Hope Christian College, under the title there is a drop down menu option that says Eugene Bible College, and it's based off of the Wikipedia page. I was curious if we can get that changed to New Hope Christian College rather than Eugene Bible College — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickalvis (talk • contribs) 02:52, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * It's to the right and not in a drop down menu for me, but maybe you have a mobile device with another layout. Our article is already called New Hope Christian College since June 2010 [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eugene_Bible_College&action=history] so I don't think Google got "Eugene Bible College" from us. We don't control the Google box and only part of it is taken from us. Here is our standard reply for posts about such Google boxes:
 * Symbol move vote.svg Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:08, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Correction on publisher & ISBN for "Bernard Peiffer"
Compendium of Over 2000 Jazz Pianists by Arnie Fox-ISBN-978-1-425-1848-8 Trafford Publishing Please correct under reference 3 of Bernard Peiffer (Speck & ISBN incorrect) Thank you for your work, Arnie Fox-author of "Compendium of Over 2000 Jazz Pianists — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.249.25 (talk) 03:19, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I have swapped data for two book references which got mixed up.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bernard_Peiffer&diff=592119670&oldid=576963591] The year and page number was also wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:41, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Category: Officers of the New Zealand Order of Merit
Dear Wikipedia I note that you haven't included me in the list of Officers of the New Zealand Order of merit. I hope you will remedy this matter as I gained this honour in the Queen's Birthday Honours' List 2006. Sincerely Alistair (aka 07:22, 24 January 2014 (UTC)07:22, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Alistair Ptersonallister)Paterson ONZM. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.252.253.219 (talk)
 * The Category "Officers of the New Zealand Order of Merit" does not attempt to list all officers of the NZoM. It is a list of Wikipedia articles about holders of the office. Maproom (talk) 10:45, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

I note in this search that the name Alistair Paterson only occurs 6 times in Wikipedia, and clearly refers to more than one person - I assume you are a poet? Wikipedia has specific definitions of notability, for people this is at Notability (people) If, having read this, you feel you are notable enough to merit an article, please do not write it yourself (please see Autobiography), but request it at Requested articles. Please understand that, other than requesting the removal of incorrect information, you will have no say in what is said in the article about you, which will not be "your" article, and which may include criticism of you and/or your work, provided that criticism is from a reliable source. - Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 10:52, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) By definition Category:Officers of the New Zealand Order of Merit is an automatically complied list of the 125 holders who already have the category shown at the bottom of their articles. Names cannot manually be added to this list, they must be category links from an existing article on that individual. As we do not have an article on Alistair Paterson (hence the red-link) the name cannot appear on the category list.

Gamma Phi Gamma
I believe that it Would be appropriate to contact the fraternity and get accurate information on it's founding and what they stand for among other things so that there isn't a single page saying that one of their pledges lost a nut and that's all. It not only reflects poorly on the fraternity and what they believe, but also on Wilmington College as a whole — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gamma Phi Gamma1212 (talk • contribs) 07:24, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia only uses information that is confirmed by reliable published sources. It does not accept what organisations say about themselves. If an organisation is notable only for an incident that reflects badly on it, so be it. However the Gamma Phi Gamma article probably ought to be deleted anyway. Maproom (talk) 09:03, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Basically, the only information on the local fraternity chapter is obituaries noting things like 'graduated from Wilmington College, where he was a member of Gamma Phi Gamma' and the news articles covering the Pledge Loses Testicle In Frat Hazing Ritual At Wilmington College one event. The article started by Ktr101 likely will be deleted/redirected per WP:BLP1E. The current place for such information would be articles such as Wilmington College (Ohio) or Hazing in Greek letter organizations if it could be added in a way that maintains the context of the topic. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:34, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Being the oldest local fraternity in America certainly is more than enough for notability, and I am more than willing to expand it, so I will try to do so later today. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 16:32, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I would say if their claim to be the oldest surviving is true, then it would count for notability, but verifying that claim could be difficult. And after a few minutes googling for them ("gamma phi gamma" "wilmington college" -testicle -hazing 1907), not much shows up.Naraht (talk) 19:15, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Verifying that statement might well require library rather than online research. DES (talk) 20:02, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * We could always contact the college for independent verification, although I am sure that there is an organization that would also keep track of this information somewhere, such as a local fraternity version of Panhell. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:34, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Can we measure TOR usage?
At User talk:Jimbo Wales I received two responses, only one of which can be true: "no one would use it" and "it would require considerable bandwidth".

Is it possible to figure out what percentage of Wikipedia' traffic is used by TOR users? --Guy Macon (talk) 09:18, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Perhaps an editor who maintains User:TorNodeBot or one of the pages at Category:Wikipedia statistics may be able to generate stats for Wikipedia Tor (anonymity network) traffic. I looked through the What Links Here links for Tor (anonymity network) and found Low-Cost Traffic Analysis of Tor in Traffic analysis article as well as

which may or may not help you find an answer to your question. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:13, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Images of book covers
I've created several book articles lately, and I'd like to use some images in them. I seem to remember seeing something about the usability of photos or scans of book covers -- maybe it is OK to use them if certain procedures are followed, or maybe it's something else. Whatever it is, I can't find it right now. Can somebody help? Lou Sander (talk) 14:35, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:Fair use is probably where you can find specifics; but in general, "fair use" can be claimed for an article which is specifically about the subject that the image depicts. —Each instance for the fair use of a copyrighted image must be independantly specified. An example from personal exerience: A cover from a Spider-Man comic book can be used for the article about Spider-Man (comics), but not in Cultural depictions of spiders. This is the template to use for book covers: Template:Non-free book cover — see also: Template:Book rationale.  Another thing to consider: the images must be relatively low-rez (so that they can't be used to make plausible counterfeits).
 * WP:Public domain details information for books where 'fair use' does not apply; typically old books, or where the copyrights are waived.
 * ~I hope this helps, ~E:71.20.250.51 (talk) 18:13, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Also note that Wikipedia's non-free content criteria are more stringent than the "fair use" exceptions to US copyright law.--ukexpat (talk) 20:38, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Download into Excel
> Can I download this list: > List of wars by death toll, into Excel? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.90.110.66 (talk) 17:31, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes you can. If you wish to reuse the content please take note of the rules posted at the foot of the page: "Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; additional terms may apply. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy."  If you would like information on how to import the list into Excel, you might like to use the "text to columns" import wizard (it was called something else in versions before 2010) to separate the death toll from the name of the war and the date; or dump it into a text editor for some pre-processing to make columns before importing it into Excel.  Astronaut (talk) 17:46, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

My talk page
May I remove the disruptive text on it?--78.156.109.166 (talk) 20:27, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Which text are you referring to? I don't see anything obviously disruptive on your talk page.  RudolfRed (talk) 20:34, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Looked at the closed discussion?--78.156.109.166 (talk) 10:03, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


 * It says on that talk page that that IP "belongs to EnergiMidt, an Internet service provider, through which multiple users may connect to the Internet via proxy" it is not therefore actually "your" talk page, as other editors can and will use it. Assuming you are not responsible for all the repeated vandalism, leading the the account being blocked on several occasions, your best option is to create an account. Arjayay (talk) 12:22, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I am. No one has used it since I began.--78.156.109.166 (talk) 10:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Reference Desk
Where do I put a question about the Donald Duck comics? And how do solve this: when 2 sections on this here page are the same names, how do I go to the 2nd section under the same name by typing it in the url? You know, by putting # directly after the url and typing the section you need to view and pressing enter and then you jump directly to that section you typed in the url, but then i just go to the 1st section out of the 2 same-named sections?--78.156.109.166 (talk) 20:28, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * If your comics question is not about Wikipedia then you can ask at Reference desk/Entertainment. You can go to a second section with the same title by adding _2 at the end of the url. If there is later only one section of that name on the page then the _2 link will stop working. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Bad Wave Field Synthesis (WFS) translation to Spanish
The site http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holofon%C3%ADa shouldn't be linked as an Spanish version of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_field_synthesis. The first one is a binaural recording technique while the second one describes a sound spatialization technique based on sound field synthesis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.56.151.39 (talk) 20:45, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * the connection in the sidebar is made via WP:WIKIDATA and any errors will need to be corrected there. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  21:20, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

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