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= January 30 =

Template parameter syntax
This isn't specifically related to anything on Wikipedia (it's actually Wikia, though that uses MediaWiki, so I figured it appropriate enough to ask here). I'm attempting to make a template that says something along the lines of "It has been suggested that this file be renamed to File:Example.jpg" where "to" only pops up if the parameter for the filename is defined (that is, if the template is invoked without that parameter, it would say "It has been suggested this file be renamed" rather than "It has been suggested this file be renamed to "). Is this possible? If so, how could I go about it? And if no one here at the help desk knows, is there a better place to look/ask? - Purplewowies (talk) 00:43, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * OOooo.. An easy one... If you had a Template:Rename file that contained;
 * it will return:
 * It has been suggested this file be renamed.
 * It has been suggested this file be renamed.
 * It has been suggested this file be renamed.
 * It has been suggested this file be renamed.
 * Easy enough! Technical 13 (talk) 00:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow, I didn't realize it was that easy. Goes to show how very little I know about magic words and expressions. Thank you! - Purplewowies (talk) 01:57, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The above works but the usual solution would be the simpler:
 * It would also be common that the user only gives the file name and the template adds the link formatting:
 * If the file exists and the user adds the link formatting in the first option but forgets the colon before the file name then the file would be displayed instead of just linked. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:13, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I did make sure to add appropriate syntax to ensure that the file would always be linked and never displayed when I added the code into the template, and I'll look into replacing it with your syntax later today, because edit box with what I originally did is rather complex and hard to read visually. - Purplewowies (talk) 16:49, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The above works but the usual solution would be the simpler:
 * It would also be common that the user only gives the file name and the template adds the link formatting:
 * If the file exists and the user adds the link formatting in the first option but forgets the colon before the file name then the file would be displayed instead of just linked. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:13, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I did make sure to add appropriate syntax to ensure that the file would always be linked and never displayed when I added the code into the template, and I'll look into replacing it with your syntax later today, because edit box with what I originally did is rather complex and hard to read visually. - Purplewowies (talk) 16:49, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Timeline of British Monarchs
Hi, the information on the following page does not read accurately:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_monarchs

Under the subtitle title "Timeline of British Monarchs" the timeline for Queen Victoria's reign is not accurate.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.132.160 (talk) 02:52, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It looks fine to me. Are you sure you're looking at the right label? The bar for Victoria is immediately to the left of her name, not below it.&#32;~HueSatLum 03:02, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * earlier today there was some vandalism on the timeline that may have affected its appearance, but that has been removed and it looks right to me. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  03:03, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=592987873 List of University of Michigan sporting alumni]
Reference help requested.

Hi, I received a Reference Error for the last edit I did on List of University of Michigan sporting alumni. I reviewed the URL error help page it referenced, but I am not seeing what I did incorrectly. Please let me know so I may correct. Thanks --BuzyBody (talk) 05:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, BuzyBody (talk) 05:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The error is in the reference for "Doug Evans". The "url" parameter there has been set to "Doug Evans", the same as the "title" parameter; it needs to be whatever URL you found that verifies this entry. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:19, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I fixed the error. Thank you for your help. --BuzyBody (talk) 15:48, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Richard Charles Gould, American Shotokan Karate Federation (ASKF)., and David Gould
which spawned of the Japanese Karate Association with Richard Gould as the director and founder after being stationed in Japan, after serving in the U.S. marine corp. in the Korean conflict. He learned Shotokan Karate-do in Japan reaching third dan (third degree black belt) and climbed his way up to a national and international recognition as a 9th dan (which is the highest rank while alive. 10th dan is only in death.

The ASFK is a world renown instructor while his students formed the federation that produced countless world competitors. He is well known world wide as a senior instructor and is the second senior karate-do in the U.S. after one man who he trained with in the 50's.

He is most noted as being one of the first American to bring Shotokan Karate to the Americas. Unlike many karateka, his linage and student carry linage back to Tokyo, Japan and Gichin Funakoshi, as Master Funakoshi's students became his instructors. The ASKF is a growing international force producing some of the best karateka in the world.

The ASKF holds a true karate organization unlike most dojo's advertised. He is, also, respected in Japan as an experienced instructor.

Hanshi Richard Gould's son, Richard David Gould - 5th dan, is a renown international competitor and sensei to many and was at one time a feared kumite expert(fighter)internationally and nationally. He is also a well known teacher of karate-do students and holds fame in his own right.

The ASKF works closely with the Ryukyu Karate Research Society headed by Hanshi Patrick McCarthy in based in Australia as it does with countries in Europe and Asia.

Many published books have noted Richard Gould, the ASKF, and the linage is published in books like Randy Hassel's Shotokan and its evolution.

The ASKF is opposed to karate money groups such as the UKAI out of New Jersey and its members.

Please enter researched material into Wikipedia.org There are many sources to important information.

Thank You, R. David Gould --173.27.65.217 (talk) 07:21, 30 January 2014 (UTC)David Gould
 * Requested articles is where you can request an article be written on a topic. However, I'm not finding much in the way of coverage in reliable sources that are independent of American Shotokan Karate Federation from which to summarize into a Wikipedia article on American Shotokan Karate Federation. There is some book information on the American Shotokan Karate Federation, but some of that information is from books written by Richard C. Gould, so the source is not independent of the American Shotokan Karate Federation topic. I also am not finding much source material for an article on Richard Gould, whether for Richard Charles Gould or Richard David Gould. Richard Gould is too common of name to find information about a particular Richard Gould. Since you are in a position to know of all the newspaper and magazine coverage of these three topics, please include links to the independent source material for these topics in making a request at Requested articles. -- Jreferee (talk) 11:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Edit on "Casa Bey"
Hello i am Dfrr Yes as you may be able to Mos Def's Casa Bey on a moble phone but i did a ****** job on it so how do i ask someone to make a edit on that Page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dfrr (talk • contribs) 09:25, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I un-did your changes to Casa Bey as it's currently a redirect page to The_Ecstatic. If you're having trouble editing then you could post your proposed changes to the talk page of that article.  CaptRik (talk) 13:19, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Effects of Mortality Salience on 2004 Presidential Elections
Checking out this abandoned Afc submission, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Studies of Terror Management Theory following 9/11 led me to the article in the subject of this thread. Is this really an encyclopedia article or an essay? Would it be appropriate to start a discussion about it at a Wikiproject, and if so, which one? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 18:48, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Seems like we have an article on Terror_management_theory and after a quick read of both I'd say the one you linked is WP:SYNTHESIS and of no real value. CaptRik (talk) 19:06, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Image question
File:Fake police website.png ← A fake police website

< Note: image made into a link. You may not display any fair use image outside of the mainspace location where its fair use is claimed.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:18, 31 January 2014 (UTC) >

I thought that Wikipedia could make use of a screenshot of a fake police website intended to scare users into paying a fee, so upon encountering such a site, I grabbed a screenshot and uploaded it to Wikipedia. But what article could it be used on? And what would be the correct licence? J I P &#124; Talk 19:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * You have uploaded it to English Wikipedia, but as it appears to be written in Finnish, it might be more use at Finnish Wikipedia, if they will accept it. But as you don't have permission from the copyright holder, it's probably not acceptable on any Wikipedia. There is no "correct licence" for an illegal copy. Maproom (talk) 20:11, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Dependent on how it's used, couldn't it fall under fair use (assuming no free alternative is available? (Granted, an English one would be better for here, but... yeah.) Beyond that, the type of scare this is is akin to ransomware, but I'm not sure it'd go in that article. - Purplewowies (talk) 21:23, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Wrong Cincinnati head coach (Ed Jucker) listed for 1958-1959 season - it should be George Smith
On the following wikipedia page

1958–59 Cincinnati Bearcats men's basketball team

it lists Ed Jucker as the head basketball coach for Cincinnati Bearcats. On the wikipedia page

Cincinnati Bearcats men's basketball

it shows George Smith as the head coach through the 1960 season. This is true. In fact Ed Jucker was not Cincinnati head coach until 1960.

Please make the correction on the wikipedia page listed at the top.

Thanks, Ed Donovan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwardrdonovan (talk • contribs) 20:13, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I have confirmed it and corrected the article.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1958%E2%80%9359_Cincinnati_Bearcats_men%27s_basketball_team&diff=593172211&oldid=569686346] PrimeHunter (talk) 20:42, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=592983306 François Berléand]
Reference help requested.

Hi, I don't understand how to edit references because instead of the actual text the references just come up as Reflist in brackets.

Thanks, C&#39;estmoi3456 (talk) 20:37, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


 * You have to edit the place the reference is used and not the place it is displayed. See more at Help:Referencing for beginners. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:46, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

replacing current Mackinac College article
The current article (Mackinac College) has one introductory sentence that is actually about Mackinac College. It is followed by 3 other categories of information: Pre-college, Post-college, and the college’s ‘MRA problem.’

I am prepared to replace this wiki with three separate articles: --Mission Point (Mackinac Island) --Mackinac College (1966 – 1970) --Mackinac College (1971-1973)

Unlike the current article, these three articles are each extensively researched with primary resources, online resources, and personal communications. These three articles encompass the information that is in the current article and much more.

I wish to ‘simultaneously’ delete the current article and upload the three new articles. Please tell me how to go about doing this. Karin D. E. Everett (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:59, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Karin. The best idea would be to try to add this information to the main article, and then when it becomes too large to split it off into other articles at that point. Also to note is that Wikipedia articles shouldn't be sourced to primary sources or original research such as personal communication. Samwalton9 (talk) 00:09, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Not quite. As per WP:PRIMARY, published primary sources can be used with care, mostly for non-controversial facts. But "personal communications" are never acceptable as sources in Wikipedia articles, any more than "personal recollections" are. DES (talk) 00:49, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Oops I meant secondary published references, not primary. Thanks, good to know about the personal communications.
 * There are quite a few Wiki articles that link to Mackinac College. I want these links to default to the Search Option page where it says 'The page "Mackinac College" does not exist'.  Then the options --Mackinac College (1966-1970) and --Mackinac College (1971-1973) would emerge for the searcher to select between.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karin D. E. Everett (talk • contribs) 01:45, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Without commenting on your proposed new articles, simply deleting the old page would almost always be inappropriate. At the very least that would break all the links pointing there.  More likely you'd want to crease a wp:Disambiguation page or use hatnotes to allow users to find the other pages.  If one of the articles is reasonably the primary meaning of the term, then it can get the primary name (although from your statement that would seem not to be the case).  Rwessel (talk) 02:08, 31 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Mackinac College has been improved and Mackinac College (Humbard) was created. Please fix the URL in the first reference in the Mackinac College (Humbard) article. Thanks. -- Jreferee (talk) 16:50, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Quote marks had to be removed from the first reference URL to make it work. These new articles are excellent.  Great work for an overnight effort!  I can work with these new titles and will incorporate my efforts into them.  THANK YOU!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karin D. E. Everett (talk • contribs) 00:07, 1 February 2014 (UTC)