Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 July 12

= July 12 =

Please start article
Please start an article on the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale. 128,000 hits on Google. Noteworthy and people like to learn about it. Need a Wiki article.

71.246.153.27 (talk) 00:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, Britannica is a different encyclopedia from Wikipedia. Dustin  ( talk ) 00:58, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * ;-) 71.246.153.27 (talk) 01:00, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * The OP has corrected Britannica > Wiki. Please don't delete threads that already have replies.  You can suggest a new article at Requested articles, or start one yourself at Articles for creation.  The deposit is mentioned, but only briefly at Louisiana Geological Survey. SpinningSpark 01:24, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

How do I change the title of an article?
Hi, I created a page a while ago on a company but I realize now that there is a capitalization mistake. I type one word of the company name in lowercase while I should have capitalized the first letter. I don't see any option to edit it. Can anyone offer some advice on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.140.145.66 (talk) 03:08, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * We might be better able to help if you would link the article, so I ask that you please do so. Dustin  ( talk ) 03:11, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * See Moving a page - but note that you won't be able to do this yourself unless you register, and get autoconfirmed rights. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:12, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Infobox issue for a person with two birth dates
Hi all. I have a question regarding the issue on how to fill in birth dates in biography infoboxes under an odd situation.

Specifically, my review of documents regarding Matsudaira Katataka reveals this person has two birth dates that are more than two years ago, one de jure (used in the current version) and one de facto. There are also verifiable sources that explained this fact--he was secretly adopted and posed as his adoptive father's posthumous son. Since hCard-compliant templates are recommended for filling birth dates in people infobox templates, which one should I use?-- Samuel di  Curtisi  di  Salvadori  03:10, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * He has only one real birth date and that should be used, if he has assumed other dates then that can be explained in the article. MilborneOne (talk) 18:04, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Twinkle vs Rollback
Isn't Twinkle the same thing as rollback because twinkle can rollback multiple edits from a single user? What are the differences? I'm quite unsure if I should request for rollback.

Also, on the RfP page for Rollback why does it say 400 edits minimum? It used to be 200. 電子888說-TALK 07:28, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * AFAIK, the main difference is rollback generates a standard edit summary, whereas with twinkle you can provide a specific one. This means you can only use rollback for a narrow range of circumstances, mainly vandalism. You can use twinkle for any revert, but you must provide an edit summary (unless it's vandalism). DeCausa (talk) 08:03, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Making a draft article live
I have created a draft article but I am struggling with how to make it 'live".

Any help much appreciated — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thinneck (talk • contribs) 10:13, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Go to the top under "more" click "move" and change it from draft to article..I'll take care of it for you. C T F 8 3 !  10:21, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Bathurst gaol
Bathurst gaol has a capacity of over 600 inmates. you have it listed at just 222. this is false and misleading — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.218.228.27 (talk) 10:56, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Your claim sounds credible. Can you point us to a reliable source that will tell us the correct number? HiLo48 (talk) 11:05, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Free subscriptions
There was a notice recently about free subscriptions to a number of reference sites such as newspapers.com, Highbeam, Questia etc., but it's been removed. Anyone know the link to the page where I can apply for the subscriptions? Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 12:51, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Have a look at WikiProject Libraries. MilborneOne (talk) 18:12, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, that's it, thanks Milbourne :) Gatoclass (talk) 04:43, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Colour Me Pop
Reference help requested.

Is it possible to use the Radio Times list for Katch 22's appearance on Late Night Line Up / Colour Me Pop, as a cite to get my article published ?

Thanks, Mike-eastman (talk) 15:01, 12 July 2014 (UTC) Mike Eastman. ( Katch 22 ) Mike-eastman (talk) 15:01, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Sure, if you have the Radio Times issue date and preferably page number. You need to ensure that the reference is formatted correctly: example   The brackets around "Radio Times" create a wikilink so that it is easy to see that it's a good source. Noyster   (talk),  15:39, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Creation of article
How do I create the title of the article? I tried double equal signs but that just creates a section head Thanks, H Crater  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hcrater (talk • contribs) 17:59, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The name should generally be chosen when you create an article in the first place. You can, however, use a move function in certain situations. There should be a button to the right of the page's title if you are an autoconfirmed user and the page is not protected against moving. Dustin  ( talk ) 18:36, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Note that Draft:Society for Planetary SETI Research is a copyvio of http://spsr.utsi.edu/ and had been tagged for speedy deletion as such.--ukexpat (talk) 12:39, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Possibly issue with category naming
I added the category Entrepreneurs, to Bob Citron, however the actual category added is called Businesspeople, not sure if this is an issue, if not i suggest to add a sub category for Entrepreneurs. prokaryotes (talk) 18:34, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * There has previously been discussion of, and it was merged into .  Since it has been previously discussed, re-creating the category should not be done unilaterally.  I suggest that you go to WP:Categories for discussion.  Robert McClenon (talk) 22:43, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

adding a map based on a map already in commons
I have created a map showing the route taken by the clipper Ariel in 1865. This is based on a map of the world that I found in Wikimedia Commons. I have simply added the route and cropped the area shown to leave out most of the Pacific and some of the Arctic and Antarctic. I now want to upload it to Wikimedia Commons. The upload questions do not seem to cover this situation: the map is not entirely my own work, as it is a modified version of something already in Commons. But none of the other categories seem to apply. What should I do? Thanks,ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 18:43, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I am guessing you were using the Upload Wizard? If that was the case, I would recommend using the standard upload here. Dustin  ( talk ) 18:47, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * There are certain templates you may use too. I will try to see if I cannot link them shortly. Dustin  ( talk ) 18:49, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * This is one template which may help in clarifying your reasoning. Dustin  ( talk ) 18:54, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I may be able to further aid you if you link the specific file which is already on Commons which you are using in your map. Dustin  ( talk ) 18:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Upload copyright material
I want to upload a file that includes an article, copyrighted by Amex-Canada, 1975, which no longer exists. The article is an obit of a famous Quaker pacifist, I'm sure they will not object. If I cant upload it, I will write my own obit since I knew the man personally. Thx! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuart roche44 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * 1. Somebody owns the copyright, even if the original holder does not exist.
 * 2. I hate to be the Friend to tell thee this, but an obit based on personal knowledge is not going to fly. We require reliable sources for our articles. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  22:16, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * If the article was published in a reliable place, then you may use it as a reference, and quote material from it as appropriate (though not normally the whole article) as long as you give the proper bibliographic information about the source, so that a reader could in principle consult it (eg order a copy from a public library). Sources do not have to be available online. ColinFine (talk) 17:24, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Is it ok to advertise paid Wikipedia editing on own blog?
So far this is just an idea,and wanted to check. prokaryotes (talk) 18:47, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Paid_editing might be of use. Dismas |(talk) 20:42, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Dismas. prokaryotes (talk) 21:58, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Layout question
Hi, at Harris there is an unwanted large white gap at the top left of the article, with the TOC appearing at the right. Is there a way to get rid of this blank space while keeping the TOC at the right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.82.205 (talk) 19:23, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I am afraid that I do not see the white gap you are referring to. Would you mind mentioning what device and/or browser you are using? That may be what is causing the issue. Dustin  ( talk ) 19:28, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Win 7 / IE 11, but I have fixed it now with a small rearrangement. Thanks. 86.160.82.205 (talk) 20:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I fixed it further by removing an unnecessary -.--ukexpat (talk) 12:43, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Assistance with a Draft Article
I have this message on a page i created for Katie Morag (TV Series) "This sandbox is in the Draft namespace. Either move this page into your userspace, or remove the User sandbox template."

I received the message a few hours after I submitted the article to be reviewed before going live.

Can you guide me in what to do and how to do it, if indeed I need to do anything? I received this message by email, "The Wikipedia page User:Thinneck/sandbox has been moved on 12 July 2014 by MatthewVanitas, see User:Thinneck/sandbox for the current revision."

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thinneck (talk • contribs)


 * Convenience link:
 * Note: The above article has already been created and moved to the main space before it was ready, so it needs work . Dismas |(talk) 20:41, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Wonky alphabetization
I've been categorizing Category:Wikipedia articles needing cleanup after translation from unknown language to their most likely source, thinking they'd be more likely to get the appropriate attention that way. I didn't know how creation of new subcategories for Category:Wikipedia articles needing cleanup after translation worked, but was noticing that pages weren't automatically generated for new language categories, in this case Georgian. So I went about creating Category:Wikipedia articles needing cleanup after translation from Georgian, leading to a Category with 2 pages, all is well. But now on the parent page, 'G' has taken the primary spot before 'A', and has somehow divided existing pages "German" (incorrectly positioned with "Georgian") and "Greek" (correctly aplhabetized). I haven't seen any evident difference between the page I created and the existing ones, so I don't understand why it would be behaving in this way. Musicandnintendo (talk) 20:53, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * All looks fine to me in Category:Wikipedia articles needing cleanup after translation. Do you still have the problem? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:23, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Checking that an article has moved from draft to live
I have created and edited an article Katie Morag (TV series) and thought I hadn't moved it from draft to article. When i attempted to do this a second time I received a message saying there was already an article of this name. How can I check that I have moved my article from draft to live? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thinneck (talk • contribs) 21:45, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Somebody else already did it. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  22:19, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Heraldry
The shield shown at Anne of Bohemia doesn't match the accompanying blazon The eagles are single-headed and on a background or, not argent. Is there a Heraldry project or other place where I could report this? Rojomoke (talk) 21:52, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * First, discuss it on the article page page, Talk: Anne of Bohemia. Also, to answer your question, there is WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology.  (Vexillogy is the description of flags, which is traditionally done in heraldic terms with blazons.  Robert McClenon (talk) 22:07, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * May I draw your attention to Category:Wikipedians who understand blazon. It contains over 120 members, including -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  22:23, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Forum page vandalised
Why in the holy heck is the Wikipedia page Forum vandalised so frequently? Looking at the history, I see that pretty much every day, people replace its entire contents with either commercial spam or random nonsense, only to be reverted mere minutes afterwards. This has been happening for months, if not years, now. It's a disambiguation page at that. Why is this single page so special? J I P &#124; Talk 22:20, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Because of people who somehow think that that page is itself a forum? They are looking for a forum in which to be heard, like the original Athenian Forum. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  22:25, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * But what they post there is generally not an expression of their own views, but machine-generated text with no discernible meaning. It is odd. Maproom (talk) 12:41, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It doesn't look machine-generated, but it is nonsense. It has only been vandalized by IPs twice this month, and twice by accounts.  It isn't obvious why it attracts adverse attention.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:01, 13 July 2014 (UTC)