Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 July 24

= July 24 =

Regarding the creation of "Catharine R. Stimpson" wiki page
Greetings,

I tried to create the page "Catharine R. Stimpson" and am having trouble getting the page to format and hyperlink the way I want it to. Also, The name needs to be properly capitalized as the subject.--MarcieBianco (talk) 03:16, 24 July 2014 (UTC)--MarcieBianco (talk) 03:16, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * More importantly than worrying about formatting and capitalisation, you need to rapidly provide some references to reliable sources in the article. If you do not, I'm afraid it will soon be deleted. SpinningSpark 08:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It's also far too promotional in tone.--ukexpat (talk) 12:01, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Ginger Rogers
I am 86 years old and I was a big fan of Ginger Rodgers, but when you start knocking Fred Astaire to make her look good, she looks bad. Fred had many beautiful partners. Why knock Cyd Charise. She actually was a dancer whereas Ginger couldn't tap and she couldn't do this and that ... Cyd was one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood. Cyd and Tony were a great Hollywood couple. The crack about Ginger did all the steps and did it in heels and backward is misleading because Fred made up all her steps. Fred complimented her and you use it against him! Now you got me talking about Ginger when she was one of my favorites. See what I mean? Have some class. There is no need to down someone to praise a person you should give praise to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.91.164.48 (talk) 04:19, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't know what article you are talking about, I cannot find anything negative about Charisse's dancing in any of the Fred Astaire, Ginger Rogers, Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers, or Cyd Charisse articles. But whichever one it is, the place to discuss problems with an article is on the article's talk page. SpinningSpark 08:24, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

VocalYogaVY
All materials linked or written for the VocalYogaVY.com website belonged to myself. VocalYogaVy is my USA trademark to protect very specific exercises. The Vocal Yoga is also a trademark i owned for these exercises in India. There are five basic exercises that I will be describing that are leading people to vocal health. The vocal yoga therapy research has been published on PubMed.

Please guide me to set this up correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vocalyoga (talk • contribs) 06:32, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Here are some policies and guidelines you should read: notability, conflict of interest, promotional user names. SpinningSpark 08:28, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * He's right. You should read the pages he cites, and expect your current username to be disabled (don't worry, you can easily create a new account). And incidentally, unrelated to Wikipedia, I see, at the lower left corner of http://vocalyogavy.com/, the concealed string "Vocal Yoga VocalYoga Vocal Yoga Vocal Yoga VocalYoga Vocal Yoga VocalYoga". I suggest that you delete it. Google is likely to regard it as an attempt to spam its search mechanism, and to mark down your domain accordingly. Maproom (talk) 08:43, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Can I "exact phrase" search on Wikipedia alone?
I know I can do a Google site search, but can I skip that step and find the "known knowns" instead of all the other knowns? I've tried the plus sign and the quotes (not with that phrase, though). And a bit of archive searching. But I give up. Help, desk? InedibleHulk (talk) 07:01, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Just found [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Searching/Archive_5#.22Quotes.22_-_error_in_docs.2C_error_in_function.2C_or_unclear. this through Google.] The link there wasn't linked to a permanent version of the Village Pump one, but found that here. (It also doesn't properly link back to the search question.) Neither is very useful, as far as I can tell, but the most useful I've found. Help:Searching says quotes work, but they don't. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:12, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Have you enabled the "new search" in your beta preferences? For me, a search for  finds just 14 hits. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:36, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was about to suggest the new Cirrus search as well. The example in the VP thread of "passed away" seems to work fine in the new search engine.  Mostly this worked fine in the old search engine as well, but in this case and some other oddities it seems to go off the rails. SpinningSpark 07:45, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I only just noticed there was something called Beta by my Preferences. I've only even touched Preferences once or twice, long ago. Guess I'll look into it (and that code tag).


 * "Known knowns" works for me, too, now that I try. I guess that was a poor example. My actual search was for "the WWE". Recently reverted that mistake, looking to find more. But about half of them only show "WWE" (at least highlighted). I don't want to search each article to see if I'm missing something. I might try that "new search" thing. Thanks. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:49, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Copy pasting lists
I can't find the policy, but I know it's out there. It says something like: You may copy paste lists of information, provided that you cite, of course, but only if the content of the list did not involve creative writing, but is only a compilation such as "lizards that are commonly sold in pet shops". Does anyone know where this policy page is? Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:32, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * WP:NOATT, although your example of "lizards that are commonly sold in pet shops" would probably involve a degree of creative writing. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 09:50, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Doesn't that particular page apply to in-Wikipedia copying only? benzband  ( talk ) 09:57, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Also see Plagiarism. benzband  ( talk ) 09:54, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Wow! Thank you so much, Benzband! I've been looking for that for ages and it's been right under my nose. I'll save both of those links to cite in the future. Cheers to you!!! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:17, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

What is reliable source
Hi...

I have created a page, but getting warring for reliable source. I already give a url as reliable source in award section. So kindly provide assistance on it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaibhavhitesh (talk • contribs) 09:12, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You need reliable sources that actually discuss the subject of the article and verify the statements made in it. Even after that, the article could still be deleted due to notability concerns, see WP:42 for a brief explanation.  The subject's LinkedIn page is most definitely does not count towards notability, nor does the notability of the company necessarily mean that the CEO is notable.  You should probably also read WP:COI and possibly WP:AUTO. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 09:38, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Change Foxy Brown's disrespectful profile
I'm writing on behalf of rap superstar Foxy Brown's page. It's beyond disrespectful that her "mugshot" is used as her profile pic. Very disturbing. I tried changing this myself but ask that whoever moderates this uploads her BROKEN SILENCE CD pic as her profile pic. Also, there are tons of blatantly false information in her profile (her Father's name being completely different) just one of many. This is a celebrated iconic rap star and this atrocity needs to be changed immediately. I've actually made Foxy and her team aware of this Wikipedia posting that was clearly written by a hater. ThanksXcdfserfff (talk) 12:23, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You say you have tried changing this yourself, but this is the only edit from your account. The album cover cannot be used in her article because it is copyrighted.  It comes under fair use to use it in the article on the album, but it cannot be used elsewhere.  If you have a freely licenced alternative image you are welcome to upload it.  Issues on inaccurate information you can raise on the talk page, or you can fix them yourself if you can cite a reliable source with the correct information. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 12:49, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Inappropriate language and inaccurate information
The Wiki page contains inappropriate language and inaccurate information which seems rather offensive to certain viewers. Can it be edited or fixed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.124.139 (talk) 12:38, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but can you be more specific? Inappropriate, inaccurate and offensive can mean a lot of things, depending on the certain viewer. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:52, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I think I see what you mean by inappropriate, that´s a lot of genderfucking. "Offensive" as argument only goes so far on Wikipedia, but that may be overkill. Please post your concerns (with more detail) on the article talkpage . Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:15, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I´ve asked for input but you never know with us volunteers. And again, it would help if you can be more specific. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:43, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello. Saw the post on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_LGBT_studies.  The language is a result of a  of genderfuck into gender bending.  The term "genderfuck" is an actual term in gender studies and as you can see in the article is well-sourced.  The information is not inaccurate.  Regarding the concern about "inappropriate language" I would point to Wikipedia's policy of "not censored". The page does need to be smoothed out though.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please  20:21, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

"User:" in the heading
Hi,

Just a quick question. I created a page about our company but it has a "User:" in a heading before the company name. How can I get rid of that?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cannasos (talk • contribs) 15:57, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * First, you created the article in your user page. On the one hand, you can Move it to article space.  Second, however, it is likely to be deleted because you have a conflict of interest, since you apparently work for the organization that is the article subject.  Your article may be deleted.  Third, your user name appears to be that of the organization, which violates the user name policy.  Please see Changing User Name.  However, the alternative would be to abandon it and create a new user name.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:25, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I highly recommend that you don't move that page into the mainspace, as it currently looks promotional. If you do so, you risk facing an editing block for advertising. Piguy101 (talk) 16:49, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

New Article did have third party verification cited
Good Morning,

I am new to Wikipedia. I am a published author and have an established presence online with many of my written works in this site: www.robertcliftonrobinson.com.

On the 24th of July, I created a page (Robert Clifton Robinson), similar to other authors such as myself, with links on that page which point to Amazon where my authors page is located and my published books (4).

I tried to be careful and follow the example of other author's who already have pages on Wikipedia.

According to Wikipedia's guidelines for a reliable source[edit] Further information: Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources The word "source" in Wikipedia has three meanings:

the type of the work (some examples include a document, an article, or a book) the creator of the work (for example, the writer) the publisher of the work (for example, Oxford University Press).

I did include on the page I created, links to Amazon where 4 of my books are published and my author's page is listed.

Doesn't this meet the above requirements?

While I was trying to edit the page, I received a notice that the page was a candidate for "quick deletion." I read the instructions and realized that this notice had come while I was still creating and editing the page. So, I completed the page at about 1:00 am and went to bed.

This morning, the page has been completely deleted. I have read the comments for why this was done, and do not really understand why this page was removed. I had links to my published books that would verify the information on the new page: Robert Clifton Robinson, as well as verify the validity of the information placed on this page. I intended to return this morning to place additional citations to further validate the page, but it was already taken down.

I learned this morning that there is a "Sandbox" section where I could have created the page and then submitted it for review, before publishing. I apologize, I did not realize that this is the correct way to publish a new article on Wikipedia.

I would appreciate instructions on how I can change, add, or delete any information on the article that I published on Wikipedia, so that I can correct my errors and be able to publish the page again.

It seems that I did include a source for third party verification, as a link on my "Works" section--to Amazon as my publisher, for verification. Perhaps this was overlooked?

Or, do I need to add examples of my work and add links to amazon for my published books?

Thank You for your help, in advance,

Biblesavant (talk) 16:54, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Robert Clifton Robinson
 * You already have comments on your talk page. However, your article was deleted under A7, for failing to provide any indication of notability.  However, it could have been deleted for several other reasons.  You have a conflict of interest, because the article is an autobiography, and they are strongly discouraged.  Please read the conflict of interest policy and the autobiography policy.  The article was also probably overly promotional.  Please do not try to "fix" the article and resubmit it.  Any changes, additions, or deletions will not change the fact that it is an autobiography and that you have a conflict of interest.  If you do try to submit the article again, with or without corrections, you run the risk of being blocked from editing.  Please read those policies and realize that you just can't submit an autobiography.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:11, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Formatting Contents
How do I put a Contents page on someones wikipedia page Also in the upper right hand corner my client wants me to put a list of her previous jobs as well as birthday etc. She is following Anthony Weiners wikipedia outline — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paularyan1 (talk • contribs) 17:58, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * A contents box will automatically appear after four or more headings are used. However, I advise you not to edit with someone else's advice, because you may have a conflict of interest. Piguy101 (talk) 18:52, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * If this is about Mary McCarty, the article needs attention from someone who, unlike you, does not have a conflict of interest. She is notable because she has served a prison term for fraud, but this is not mentioned in the article. Maproom (talk) 19:57, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I spoke too soon. User:ukexpat types faster than I do. Maproom (talk) 19:58, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * --ukexpat (talk) 20:18, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Christian Mythology Page
I'm a devout Christian and I believe that this page is completely blasphemous to my faith. I would ask that it be taken down because I feel that whoever created the page was bias. Christianity is not a myth- the Bible has been proven time and time again- from the Dead Sea Scrolls that included over 2,000 accounts of Jesus's time on Earth to the accurate prophesying of Revelation that is accurately describing prophesies that have been fulfilled. One example is of Israel's becoming a country again. The verse is:

Isaiah 11:12 - And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

There are many other verses describing prophesy fulfillment in the Bible, if you need proof simply find them in the Bible or search for them online.

Thank you, and I hope something is done about this issue as soon as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.153.156.221 (talk) 18:39, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Please note that Wikipedia is not censored. As long as the content on the page is verifiable, and the page subject itself is notable, it should meet Wikipedia's inclusion guidelines. I apologize for any umbrage taken. Piguy101 (talk) 19:02, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Nor is the bible a reliable source for anything.--ukexpat (talk) 20:17, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You will probably be happier with Conservapedia. --  Gadget850talk 00:54, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, the Bible is a reliable source for what the Bible says. -- Jayron  32  04:00, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Even then, in a large amount of cases, it's only a reliable source for what that version or translation of the Bible says. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 04:21, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

my edits were incorrectly reverted by cluebot
I made many correct edits to the page Madison Square and they were all taken off by ClueBot for no apparent reason. All of my edits were well researched and provided better information than what was already there. I worked very hard on the changes and I am seeking help on how to have my changes restored to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Art at Madsqpark (talk • contribs)


 * ClueBot left a message on your talk page, which you removed, which tried to explain why it made the revert. If you read it, what part specifically do you have a question about?  Dismas |(talk) 21:27, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The user "Art at Madsqpark", just like the user "Madsqpark" yesterday, has been warned that their username is in violation of our policies, and that, as an editor with a likely conflict of interest, they need to consult WP:COI and follow its suggestions, which means that they should not edit the article Madison Square directly, but should make suggestions on the talk page to be implemented in the artcle by other, unconflicted editors. For these reasons, I would have reverted these edits even if Cluebot had not, so that issue is moot. BMK (talk) 21:37, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

2014 World Junior Championships in Athletics
There appear to be two different versions of the same template. At least I can't see the difference. appears on 2014 World Junior Championships in Athletics – Women's 100 metres directing to the Men's 10,000 without a comma. on 2014 World Junior Championships in Athletics – Men's 100 metres directs to the same page properly per MoS with a comma. This led to my creating the linked page without a comma and being unable to move it to the correct place with a comma (I did copy and paste so now we have two versions of the same page). I don't see how we have two templates of what appears to be the same name, or now how to fix all the confusing transclusions. Trackinfo (talk) 20:59, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't see your problem, it was probably just a caching issue. If you are still having difficulty try bypassing your cache.  If a similar problem recurs in the future you can sometimes fix it with a purge of the page, although often it is less painful just to wait while the servers catch up. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 23:37, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I assume that you are talking about the fact that you have created 2 articles, 2014 World Junior Championships in Athletics – Men's 10000 metres and 2014 World Junior Championships in Athletics – Men's 10,000 metres? I believe that the latter is in accordance with the usual convention, so the former should be deleted (which you can request by the use of Db-author. I've amended Template:2014 World Junior Championships in Athletics to point at the correct page.  You can use the "what links here" entry on the toolbar to see what else points at the wrong name, & correct them. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:27, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Brandon Barnes
Please Look at Boyz II Men song "falling". My Uncle is Michael Brandon Barnes. He and Brian McKnight Produced this said song, along with many others. You have him on there as Brandon Barnes. When you click on his name, it talks about a punk rock drummer from colorado. this is not who produced this song or others. PLEASE correct this, as my uncle is Michael Brandon Barnes.

He is not getting credit and people think this "Punk" drummer is writting for Boyz II Men, which is crazy. Please google him and you will see this is a Correction that needs to be mad.

Michael Brandon Barnes is from Gadsden Alabama. Not Colorado like this Brandon Barnes Punk rock band member.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.157.18 (talk) 21:38, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Crystal_Clear_app_utilities.png|20px]]Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills.  New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). --Mysdaao talk 22:45, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I have removed the wikilink to the wrong Brandon Barnes. Maproom (talk) 07:31, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

searching wikipedia using internet explorer
how can one make wikipedia the default search engine in internet explorer for windows 8.1? (I have done this with all my computers for years but have found that it is no longer an option under internet explorer add-ons.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.129.227.180 (talk) 22:17, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Try looking at this: Change or choose a search provider in Internet Explorer Piguy101 (talk) 23:12, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Custom edit of Template:Infobox language possible?
OK. I have a situation on the Cree language page where the Infobox for that page has the wrong information. One of the Infobox lines is for ISO-639-3, where it lists cre – inclusive code, then goes on to list 9 dialects. Only problem is that cre covers 6 of those dialects, and the other 3, though part of the Cree language, are not part of the cre ISO-639 Macrolanguage code. However, the template won't allow me to list 4 ISO-639-3 codes, with the fourth one being the cre, and then having the remaining 6 displayed. If I want to have such a custom display, how would I go about doing it without recreating the template from scratch? Is there a way I can enter commands to custom edit that template? CJLippert (talk) 22:22, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * There is a way to experiment. You could edit here, but it looks very tricky. And then to have your work replace what is there would likely mean discussion. There must be someplace you could discuss this, but I would say one place is WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  20:40, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hm. Fixing the information error in the Infobox shouldn't need discussion. But editing the Infobox template definitely would require discussions. OK, I will try WP:VPT and see what folks think. Thanks. CJLippert (talk) 22:59, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Boko Haram
Reference help requested.

I can't see whats wrong with this: (It connects to the website correctly, other refs like this are fine).

FYI. a bot sent me here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Signedzzz (talk • contribs) 00:53, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, zzz (talk) 00:49, 25 July 2014 (UTC)


 * You need url before the URL. --  Gadget850talk 00:51, 25 July 2014 (UTC)