Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 March 12

= March 12 =

New Wikipedia User Wishing To Learn How To Execute Properly-Tagging Uploaded Logos
Hi — I'm a new Wikipedian (just created my account today). I'm a Radio Enthusiast who really enjoys staring at Radio Station Logos. Transparency in PNG Image definitely fascinates me. I can't help but notice how incredibly-plagued Wikipedia is with outdated and/or opaque background JPEG versions of TV/Radio Logos…and I would be nothing short of enthusiastic to contribute to at least somewhat of a demise of this issue. In a nutshell, I am very anxious to contribute to the replacement of several opaque background JPEG versions (and/or outdated versions) of Radio Station Logos with up-to-date PNG Image versions…but before I can do this, I need to get schooled in exactly how to accurately-spot whether or not a logo falls within "Public domain" and, once correctly-classified, how to correctly insert the appropriate tags on the Image Info page. With Wikipedia usage, I am well aware that there are RULES that need to be followed and adequately-abided-by. I understand that Wikipedia has a very steep copyright law and I wish to improve the project as best I can (not harm it) so, that being said, if I want to make sure my efforts are aimed in a positive direction, I feel that I'm in need of some education as to how to perform a legitimate and well-executed Logo/Image Upload. DizzyMosquitoRadio99 (talk) 00:45, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * My main concern is that I would lack the knowledge as to HOW to tag logos and whatnot correctly. For example, there are certain tags inserted and I'm not sure I'd know how to readily find/locate the appropriate tags or even make accurate judgment calls as to whether or not certain logos fall within "Public domain" (something which adds to my anxiety). I certainly don't want to start accumulating Warnings, that's for sure. I don't want Wikipedia to have to resort to Blocking me, for sure. Experienced Wikipedia editors very apparently know how to correctly tag stuff and upload images without getting into trouble or Blocked; although, I'm not really sure I'd be able to be so fortunate, should I be attempting to upload logos myself. I also have an unfortunate tendency to not preview any of my postings and, therefore, as a result I might end up editing frequently to fix careless mistakes (a practice that can, in turn, clog up any page's "Edit History" logs). That being said, I wish to overcome this downfall trait of mine. DizzyMosquitoRadio99 (talk) 00:45, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Very few, if any, logos are in the public domain, and most need to be used under a claim of "fair use", the policy for which is available here. More detailed instruction are avalible here. -- Mdann 52   talk to me!  08:26, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Yesterdays main page
how can i get yesterdays main page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.79.72.145 (talk) 07:58, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It's at Main Page/Yesterday. Dismas |(talk) 09:28, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Administrators
hiya

is there some detail that helps me to add to my monobook.js to see who is an advanced permission user?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mosfetfaser/monobook.js

Mosfetfaser (talk) 10:12, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I believe User:MastCell/user-rights.js is what you're looking for. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  10:44, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * cool Yunshui, best - Mosfetfaser (talk) 11:15, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Numeristic theory
please help me answer this question. How can the numeristic theories be used to address crises identified by Carl Rogers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.72.105.198 (talk) 10:42, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  10:44, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Why does Category:Wikipedia_spam_cleanup show pages with no cleanup tags???
I couldn't find anywhere else to post this so here goes. There seems to be a bug with Category:Wikipedia spam cleanup which means pages like Immigration and Homelessness to be included. I can't find any spam cleanup tag anywhere on their page. Hope someone may be able to help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheDragonFire (talk • contribs) 11:28, 12 March 2014‎ (UTC)
 * Further reading cleanup adds that category. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:35, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

bad user experience
When I visit this Wikipedia page and click on the language list 'Deutsch' (German in German) I get to a page that got already (year 2009 it seams) deleted. Why is the Mediawiki/Wikidata software not programmed to detect this? Hope this is the right place to ask the question, if not provide the party responsible. Thank you from Germany. 78.35.212.123 (talk) 13:07, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Fixed.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Melancholie/mmA_frame&diff=599286570&oldid=253751152] The German link was transcluded from User:Melancholie/mmA frame. I guess the interlanguage bots which remove links couldn't work that out. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:56, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Rollback
Special:ListUsers says I'm not a rollbacker, and page histories don't show rollback links, but I see them in diffs. Why is this? Thanks in advance,  Srolanh     See.Say. 15:08, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It is Twinkle, which adds similar links, but which only requires autoconfirmed permission. -- Mdann 52   talk to me!  15:21, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Moving an image on a Wikipedia page
Hi there, I am currently editing the page 'Stonham Aspal'. On this page I am struggling to move my population time series (the graph) to where I would like it. This is within the history section of the article, as you may be able to see it is currently near the bottom of the article. All help appreciated. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afmoores (talk • contribs) 15:53, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I think it would be poor layout to have a left-aligned image in that section, opposite the right-aligned infobox. I have moved the image directly under the ibox and right-aligned it. Is that better?--ukexpat (talk) 16:13, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Editing and Footnotes
I have just edited the last paragraph of the article on Basava Premanand and inserted a footnote (#9) with a reference to back up my change ("James Randi Educational Foundation"). Both appear correctly in the edited article, but I could not insert a page number for the James Randi reference, as none appeared on the screen showing the James Randi article. What can be done about this?

This is the first time I have done a footnote edit, and frankly it was hit and miss that it came out right, although I did try to read the many pages on Wiki footnote editing. Could you briefly explain how to do a footnote edit, please, in case I ever have to do one again? Many thanks. -- P123cat1 (talk) 16:36, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * The best starting point for how to enter references is WP:Referencing for beginners. If your reference is to a web page, try using Template:cite web to include a specific URL, title, access date, and other relevant information. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:48, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Cropping an image
Dear editors: In this discussion Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fashion there's talk of the need to crop a photo (the photo is of a person, showing a large amount of jacket compared to face). Is there a way from within Wikipedia to show less of a photo, or will the original need to be cropped outside of Wikipedia and then re-uploaded? And is this an appropriate thing to do? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 17:53, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Let's start with *yes* this is appropriate, and yes there are specialists in this who definitely do this. Take a look at Graphics Lab and submit this request to their workshop. I've generally gotten a response in a couple of days or less, but it is volunteers.Naraht (talk) 18:45, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm on it.--ukexpat (talk) 19:17, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅--ukexpat (talk) 19:20, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, both of you. I would still like to know if there is a way to adjust the visibility of the photo, or if the photo has to be copied out of Wikipedia, cropped and reloaded, so that next time I can do it myself.  Is there an instruction page somewhere that outlines the process including how to handle attribution?  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 19:44, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * For jpeg images on Commons, an excellent cropping tool (commons:Commons:CropTool) avoids all the to and fro. I use it directly at https://tools.wmflabs.org/croptool/ It even sorts out all the attribution. Thincat (talk) 19:56, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I prefer to download it and crop it in Photoshop and reupload it. That way I can tweak levels and sharpness at the same time, but that's just me being a nerd.--ukexpat (talk) 21:43, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I already know how to do the second, and I will investigate the first. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 07:14, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Dead links
How to tag them?

Also I have read somewhere that you can use an automated script, for marking dead sources. What is its link? SamuelDay1 18:12, 12 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamuelDay1 (talk • contribs)
 * Tag them by placing the text after them. The tool you're probably thinking of is Checklinks. An informational page is located at User:Dispenser/Checklinks.
 * You can type in the page and run it with https://toolserver.org/~dispenser/view/Checklinks, or you can insert a bookmarklet into your browser's toolbar you click on from the page with dead links (instructions at https://toolserver.org/~dispenser/view/Integration). meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 18:24, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I've tested, its working. Thank you very much! SamuelDay1 (talk) 18:35, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Link to Wikipedia in other languages
I'm at my first attempts at writing a page in my sand box and have been unable to find an explanation of how to create a link to Wikipedia in other languages... there is a list of people on the page I'm writing, the majority of whom I've linked to on the English Wikipedia, but some only have a page on French or Spanish Wikipedia.... can somebody help or point me to the answer, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.91.127.113 (talk) 19:49, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Help:Interlanguage links discusses various ways of doing this. Note: the help page generally is about a somewhat different topic – linking to a corresponting article on another wiki. Thincat (talk) 20:12, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks - but I'm doing things the easy way, with VisualEditor, which doesn't accept Wiki syntax - how can I proceed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.91.127.113 (talk) 00:16, 13 March 2014 (UTC)


 * A lot of people don't find it easy but very hard to work with. You can make the link like other wikilinks. The target just has colons and language code in front as shown at Help:Interlanguage links, for example :fr: for the French Wikipedia. You were not logged in when you posted here so I cannot see your sandbox but inline interlanguage links are rarely used in the English Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:46, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Help with team colors for NCAA!
I have recently been trying to introduce team colors for NCAA teams, but I need help on this. One of the template pages I have created is Template:Pacific-12 Conference color and I have done exactly what they do in other similar templates such as Template:NBA color and Template:Euroleague color, but it is still showing a default team color on infoboxes of Pac-12 athletes such as Spencer Dinwiddie. Can anyone look at this and attempt to make it work for the Colorado Buffaloes, because that's the team I was using for this. Temple of the Mousy (talk) 19:59, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Infobox basketball biography/style calls up Euroleague color and NBA color (and the corresponding Euroleague color cell and NBA color cell), but not Pacific-12 Conference color or Pacific-12 Conference color cell. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:29, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * there is already CollegePrimaryStyle and CollegeSecondaryStyle, and plans to merge both of these into infobox basketball biography. it's just taking some time. Frietjes (talk) 17:08, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

I want to create an article
I wanna create an article about 'courtesy cars'. Will this be a good article topic? --Frettlebolte (talk) 20:19, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you have enough references that meet RS to establish notability as that is the requirement? RJFJR (talk) 20:33, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes i DO, I shall start my article. --Frettlebolte (talk) 20:57, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Please consider using the WP:AFC process.--ukexpat (talk) 21:20, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

More help with NCAA team colors!
I received a reply on my question that can be read here, but could anyone please apply these changes on the Infobox:Basketball biography/style template? The template I want to be added is Template:Pacific-12 Conference colorTemple of the Mousy (talk) 21:00, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Help with placing a picture
I have uploaded a picture and it is in Wikimedia Commons. How do I get it onto a question page that I want to create for the reference desk? When I look at the preview I see the title of the picture with a box around it, but no Image. What am I doing wrong? Please help me. Thank you Polkateer (talk) 21:11, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Does WP:EIS help?--ukexpat (talk) 21:22, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * We cannot see an unsaved preview and you didn't post your code so we can only guess. My guess: You used a wrong file name, maybe wrong capitalization. You uploaded File:St.Therese the Little Flower.JPG. Click edit to see how I display it here. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:48, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Format link to Wikipedia page with quoted title (article/essay/etc.)
When linking to the title that should be quoted instead of italicized such as a magazine article or chapter in a book, where should I place the quotes? I was unable to quickly find an example outside of the links in references which typically include the quotes in the link description. These examples are taken from the article for Bill Joy.


 * "Bill Joy on Venture Capital, Clean Tech, and Big Boats"

produces a link that includes the quotation marks:


 * "Bill Joy on Venture Capital, Clean Tech, and Big Boats"

However, this doesn't work as-is when linking to another Wikipedia article since the quotation marks are not part of the article title.


 * "The Use of Knowledge in Society"

produces a broken link:


 * "The Use of Knowledge in Society"

There are two simple solutions that I can see:

1. Move the quotes outside the link. This is easier to type but produces links that look different than those appearing in the references.


 * "The Use of Knowledge in Society" → "The Use of Knowledge in Society"

2. Provide a label with the quotes. Not much harder, and the links now look just like references.


 * "The Use of Knowledge in Society" → "The Use of Knowledge in Society"

Is there a better solution or is one of these the preferred method?

--DavidHarkness (talk) 22:57, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * The Use of Knowledge in Society produces The Use of Knowledge in Society, "The Use of Knowledge in Society" prodeces "The Use of Knowledge in Society". -- Mdann 52   talk to me!  11:12, 13 March 2014 (UTC)


 * My question assumes the rule that article titles should be enclosed in quotation marks rather than italicized (from Which Titles Are Italicized and Which Are Enclosed in Quotation Marks?). Given that, how should I include the quotation marks in the markup and rendered link? --DavidHarkness (talk) 20:46, 15 March 2014 (UTC)