Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 March 5

= March 5 =

Referencing errors on GM Futurliner
Reference help requested.

Thanks, Jbschev (talk) 02:04, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The current issue is that you are using cite web but there is no title value, just as noted on the linked help page. --  Gadget850talk 02:12, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

adding a business location /new account
Hi. I want to add our non-profit organization to wikipedia. Basically just with the address/map (googlemaps, maybe?) and contact info. I have no idea how to do this. Help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Primitivepursuitsithaca (talk • contribs) 03:27, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * the first place to start is to see if you have a conflict of interest in creating such an article. if not, then collect reliably published third party sources that have discussed the organization in a non trivial manner. when you have that, then see How_to_write_a_great_article--  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  03:44, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Location and contact details are not appropriate as the only content for a Wikipedia article about an organisation.  Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a directory or listings service.  Unless this nonprofit satisfies the criteria at WP:GNG or WP:CORP, then it doesn't qualify for an article.  And as someone connected with the organisation ("our" nonprofit)' you are strongly discouraged from writing about it here because of your conflict of interest, as Red Pen warns above. -  Ka renjc (talk) 17:31, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Title of Wikipedia Article
I'm not sure what I just did, but I know this is a very stupid question!

I just submitted an awards page for an actor, but the title was incomplete when I submitted it (an accident). However, it was approved anyway. I just went to "move/rename" the article to the complete title, but in doing so I selected the format to be "Wikipedia." This is now at the start of my title, and I don't know if I just changed the format of my article. Can I un-do this move or change something where it doesn't have "Wikipedia" at the start? I'd like to keep my new title, but without the 'wikipedia' domain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichWatt (talk • contribs) 05:58, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * User:RichWatt: It been moved to your userspace by someone I suspect didn't know it should have been in mainspace. The move maze screwed it up so it can't be moved back to the same title in mainspace. Ask for a move at WP:Requested moves or ask an administrator. - Purplewowies (talk) 06:26, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Interestingly, there is already an article at List of awards and nominations received by Jeremy Renner, so I've moved your version to User:RichWatt/List of awards and nominations received by Jeremy Renner and tagged List of awards and nominations received by Jeremy Renner for deletion.  Anon 126   (talk - contribs) 06:25, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, this is PERFECT! I was able to transfer my new information to the existing page(List of awards and nominations received by Jeremy Renner), & it looks great, title and all. Thank you again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichWatt (talk • contribs) 06:29, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * @Purplewowies: Hello. As you might be able to tell, I was the one who moved it to userspace, per my reasons above. I don't believe requested moves is necessary.


 * I suggested requested moves without looking at the article's content, and I had initially thought there to be a redirect there. I had misread the article's history and thought that there had just been an awkward maze of moves from the subpage title (but in mainspace) to WP to User that had managed to make it so that the original couldn't take the page being moved back there (but I didn't realize "the original" wasn't the "real" original). - Purplewowies (talk) 09:23, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * @RichWatt: I wouldn't recommend just replacing the existing article; rather, I think you should add to the existing article.  Anon 126   (talk - contribs) 06:31, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

@Anon--I agree, the information from the existing article is definitely not replaced, just reformatted--all the info (date, what prize, category, etc.) that was there before is still there, but it should be much more updated now and hopefully easier to read than before. I hope this is alright — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichWatt (talk • contribs) 06:51, 5 March 2014 (UTC) --RichWatt (talk) 06:56, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Creation of more than one Wikipedia company page
Hi,

I work for an organisation with operations in different countries? Is it valid to create a Wikipedia company profile for each major country of operation? Pls advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asbbb (talk • contribs) 06:03, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * User:Asbbb: No. And you really shouldn't be making an article about your organization at all. Wikipedia is not a place for "company profiles". It's an encyclopedia. - Purplewowies (talk) 06:20, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi,

Thank you for the clarification. I went through Wikipedia's guidelines for Organizations, and there is this guideline, which says:

"You can also submit a draft through the Wikipedia:Article wizard, if you feel strongly that you can meet the requirements of neutrality and sourcing. However, be aware that even in a user subpage or through the article wizard, advertising is forbidden, so you should not create a draft unless you are reasonably certain you can do so within Wikipedia's expectations. Do not be surprised if such a draft ends up deleted as advertising, and be willing to adjust your approach.

If you have little or no experience with editing on Wikipedia, please realize that starting new articles that are not soon removed can be very difficult for new users. Wikipedia has a lot of policies and guidelines that are not very obvious and may trip up new users who start from a blank page. The result is that we delete many articles from Wikipedia every day; see Why was my page deleted? A gentler introduction to Wikipedia is to begin by making small edits to existing articles, to gain experience and understanding before adding new articles, and to demonstrate a good faith interest in helping the Wikipedia project and not just your own organization. See our Cleanup and Maintenance pages for lists of articles that need work. You may also request adoption by an experienced user who will help you learn to edit productively here. If you can find a similar organization that already has an article about it, then examine its style and tone and its wikisource and use that as a model for building your article. Take your time and build your article in a page under your own userpage. When you are ready, have an experienced editor review it and then deploy it by copying it into as a regular article with an appropriate article title."

So, according to this guideline, it seems organisations are allowed to have their own article provided they adhere to Wikipedia guidelines. Pls clarify.

I also see individual Wikipedia article pages for companies such as Microsoft and HP for their countries of operation (e.g. Microsoft India, Microsoft, etc.). So, is it not possible to create such Wikipedia articles for our company too? Pls clarify. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asbbb (talk • contribs) 08:08, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Those pages - hold your hats, for this'll blow your mind - aren't written by employees of Microsoft or Hewlett-Packard. In general, "X exists, so Y should too" doesn't hold water here - WP:Notability rules the day. — Jeremy  v^_^v  Bori! 08:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Does the company already have an article? It might help us better answer the question if we knew that.  Dismas |(talk) 08:42, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * The guidelines for whether a company is notable enough to have an article is at WP:CORP. A very quick rule of thumb is "If there has been an article about your company in the Los Angeles Times or a similarly notable newspaper or magazine -- an actual article, about the company generally, written by a reporter, with interview quotes and that sort of thing -- then that brings you a long way toward being notable enough to have an article. If not, probably not, and at any rate we have to get down in the weeds of WP:GNG and WP:CORP and it gets complicated." This would apply to sub-companies of a conglomerate or holding company, but branch operations in individual countries would be included in the company's main article; if the company is one of the world's twenty or so largest we could talk about possible exceptions. Herostratus (talk) 11:46, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Our Company Profile Page is out of date
hi Our Company profile (Arab Banking Corporation) page is out of date, and we have posted a modification but they are still under review for a long time. link

Our Corporate Communications department wants to have the ability to update this page instantly because they are the most appropriate entity that can provide up to date information.

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohdbh (talk • contribs) 09:32, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The English Wikipedia doesn't have any jurisdiction over the Arabic Wikipedia, I'm afraid. Here, our policies would severely discourage you from making updates to a page about your company, but ar-wiki may well have different rules - you would need to contact them. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  09:38, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

how to post
Please, how can i list our organization on Wikipedia directory`````` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodmarriage (talk • contribs) 09:40, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, . The simple answer is that you can't. Wikipedia is NOT a directory. It is an encyclopaedia, which has neutral, comprehensive articles about subjects which have already been written about by other independent reliable sources (such as books from reputable publishers, major newspapers etc). If your organisation meets that criterion, then there may be an article about it - but you should not be the one writing it. Please see WP:NCORP and WP:COI. --ColinFine (talk) 10:57, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

You can also see WP:NPOV,WP:! and WP:YFA. Signed -- Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa1 2 3&#124;UPage&#124;&#9786;&#9733; (talk) 11:32, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

My book
HELP!, the book I created is gone, now lets get serious, I created a book and I put many article/pages in it, then after leaving it for many days (or maybe a few months, 2 or 3 maybe, don't really know what time) When I opened up book creator, the book was essentially gone, can someone help me, I put my work and time in to it, and to realize it is lost is disappointing, moreso if it is lost forever to history. (:-( &#9785;  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrei Marzan (talk • contribs) 11:25, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Special:Book has an option to save the book you are working on. It appears you have not saved it. If you are on another computer now then try going back to the computer and browser where you worked on the book. If that doesn't help then I'm afraid the book is gone. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:24, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

How can I TOTALLY delete a page so it is unsearchable on Google?
How can I TOTALLY delete a page so it is unsearchable on Google? My page 'Paul Rooney artist' was deleted but still appears in Google searches, which is confusing as I have submitted an undeleted article entitled 'Paul Rooney (artist)' which does not appear in searches! Please help. Many thanks, Onfadingout. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Onfadingout (talk • contribs) 13:11, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Google cached the old article an hour before it was deleted. Next time Googlebot tries to visit the page it will discover it has been deleted and remove it from Google's index. We cannot say when that will happen. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Links in source code
Sometimes when I see something like Page Name in the edit window it is a clickable link to the page. Other times it is not. Does anyone know why this is and how I can make all such links clickable? --Guy Macon (talk) 14:16, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I think it used to be a feature of the old popups script - you would wave your mouse near the markup for a link and popups would activate. It was intermittant and I never could determine exactly what circumstances caused it to trigger like that.  Since I deleted the old popups from my monobook.js file and started using the popups gadget, I've not seen the same behavoir.  The old popups was "importScript('User:Lupin/popups.js');".  Astronaut (talk) 17:09, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * That wasn't it. I had no monobook.js and my common.js vector.js don't have anything like that. I turned on the popups gadget, and got an improved popup where it recognizes a link, but it still doesn't recognize at least half of the links in the source code. :( --Guy Macon (talk) 19:06, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I have only seen that feature in diffs and "Show changes", but it varies whether it's there. Do you have it in the box where the text is edited? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:43, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Altoona Tribune Office Location - Altoona, PA
Gentlemen: Your post card photo and information about the Altoona Tribune newspaper offices states that it was located on 11th Street at 12th Avenue. This is erroneous. The Tribune Office Building was located on 12th Street, between 11th and 12th Avenue on Green Avenue (alley). From 11th Street to 12th Street, Green Avenue narrowed down into an alley. Herman Nagle — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.140.112.78 (talk) 14:40, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Right. According to the article text the address was on 12th street and so the caption was possibly misleading. I changed it from "on 11th St. at 12th Ave" to "at 11th St. and 12th Ave" which just describes the intersection shown without implying an address. By the way you could have done this yourself! You can't break the Wikipedia, don't be shy about editing the article. Herostratus (talk) 17:32, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

"Markup" bar
Hi. I'm having technical problems clicking the lower "markup" bar in edit mode ('insert, wiki markup, symbols etc...). For example, clicking  it appears , clicking   the result is  , for   the result is  , and so on... This double result does not appears in other WP, Commons, Species etc (I checked) and the upper bar ("redirect, signature, gallery"...) has no problems. Thanks for the attention. --Dэя-Бøяg 16:45, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * It doesn't happen for me. What is your browser? Does it happen if you log out? Have you tried to clear your entire cache? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:40, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, it happens no more, from yesterday night. Anyway, my browser is IE8 and I've not bypassed my cache. Thanx for interest. --Dэя-Бøяg 17:36, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Duplicate articles
Hi, I found two articles about the same individual: Shekou Touray and Shekou Momodou Touray. Not sure how to go about nominating them to be merged? Thanks --Flaming Ferrari (talk) 18:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * ✅ This would appear to be pretty uncontroversial, as they are duplicate articles, you may want to move any useful content into the longer article and turn the shorter one into a redirect to the longer article... Roberticus (talk) 18:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * ... but don't just copy and paste from one article to another, as that would be a copyright violation and loses the attribution of the contribution by each editor. Roberticus has correctly proposed a merge, and the process is described at WP:Merging. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:28, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Original Article scrapped and replaced by someone.
Hi I had contributed to one particular WikiPedia Article. The article was about the place in India, where certain interesting historic events(Battle) had taken place. This contribution had come from the years of my research about the place. I am not from India. I was in UK when I did that research as a part of my Doctorate thesis. Anyone can imagine how much it took me to thread the pieces of the history. It costed me so much time, money and connections. I thought I have done with that Article, so did not pay much attention in 2013. But when I visited that Article to pull some references, I saw that someone replaced the total article. It seems that there is another place with similar name. Someone has scrapped the whole article and replaced with the information about that another place. I could not find in the history who and when it was done. Now the article history does not have any of the references for the changes done for the original place. When searched for the place, it goes to this new article. I also had provided the Link to this place in all the articles where this battle was mentioned. Now those links are pointing to this new wrong place.

How do I revert the article back? I am afraid, that even if I do it, the author of other article will do the same and revert my changes.

I have Wikipedea code for the original article.

Ez darren (talk) 22:33, 5 March 2014 (UTC)EzDarren
 * The last version of the article before it was redirected is located here if you want to have a look at it. On a quick perusal the two articles look almost identical, so we may have to do some work to fix the attribution, if a copy and paste move had been completed.  I will look into that thought. --kelapstick(bainuu) 22:57, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes it looks like somone copied and pasted the information from Aragon into Adgaon. If you have a look at this report you can see that the last version of Argaon is almost identical to Adgaon.  I will merge the histories together (required for attribution) and leave the page at Adgaon, if you want to discuss a move, please do so on the article talk page.  Cheers, --kelapstick(bainuu) 23:02, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

←This seems to be a recurring issue with this page (second time a history merge has been required between the two articles), there must be some conflict in the name of the article, and people are copy/pasting over the redirect. The article you are looking for is located at Argaon, it has all the same information, just a different title. --kelapstick(bainuu) 23:15, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Upload video
I would like to upload a Youtube video to an existing page. How do I? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronmor47 (talk • contribs) 23:10, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You can't upload a Youtube video. You could link to one, if it isn't a copyright violation. See WP:YOUTUBE. C T F 8 3 !  23:44, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

I'd need some help
I'm a regular editor at the Spanish Wikipedia and only come around here every now and then. Today I noticed I had been thanked for an edit I didn't make. Can anyone help me? It's really strange Thanks in advance!--Facu89 (talk) 23:29, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * At the time many pages had a link saying "Enable feedback" or "Request feedback" under "Tools". You must have clicked it. There was no save or confirmation step, and some users did it accidentally. Don't worry about it. The system has since been removed. It's described at Article Feedback Tool/Version 5. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:16, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you!--Facu89 (talk) 13:10, 9 March 2014 (UTC)