Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 May 25

= May 25 =

Beverungen
I was trying to make a change on the English version but it did not work and now it has this message in red at the top: Cite error: There are tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).

Can you remove that message? I have no idea how to do that.

So sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.158.152 (talk) 03:44, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


 * See the diff for the changes you had made. Accidentally, a tag was added in the start of the article. You need to put a URL inside the ref tag for it to work properly. You can see a diff by clickking on the "View history" tab, select two revisions and clicking "Compare selected revisions". -- Fauzan  ✆ talk   ✉ mail  04:36, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Autistic editor asks: am I splitting hairs or just respecting copyright?
Hi, I wanted an opinion on a matter of not linking to a GNU-licensed image in order to serve as a functional button.

I'm a template editor who's refurbished. I really wanted to have an image that would function as a "refresh" button, because it's compact and cooler looking, like how AnomieBot gets to have a big red "off" button.

A paragraph in WP:ALT remarks that (emphasis mine):

"Wikipedia articles sometimes contain images that do not link to an image page, for example an Information icon. ... Removing the link is acceptable for images in the public domain or the equivalent CC0. Links should not be suppressed for any image that requires attribution."

So Template:Post-it large has, right now, an unattributed link to File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg, which instead links to the action "refresh page".

Since Gnome-colors-view-refresh is licensed GNU GPL v.2 or later, technically it's a copyright violation. I've tried other icons [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Post-it_large/sandbox&oldid=610021721][//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Post-it_large/sandbox&oldid=610023023][//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Post-it_large/sandbox&oldid=610024231] that are in the public domain/C00 but they pretty much all suck.

How big a deal is this attribution-through-linking? Meteor sandwich yum (talk &bull; contribs) 06:01, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Meteor sandwich yum - people tend to be lax or unaware of that rule, but avoiding linking to the file is still against policy and violates the terms of the license. I'm going to see if I can make a similar, alternative icon that you can use, which I'll release into the public domain. ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 06:41, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
 * How's this one? Reload Icon Blue.svg Threw it together real quick based on another public domain work I found online. If you'd like anything changed, let me know. ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 06:55, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


 * SuperHamster, It's perfect! Thanks! Meteor sandwich yum (talk &bull; contribs) 22:39, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

"Contents" box
I want to edit the "Contents" box in the article Death of Osama bin Laden (the subparagraphs need adjusting), but cannot see how to get into it. It does not show up in the wikicode on the edit page. Where is it? - P123cat1 (talk) 08:36, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


 * It's automatically generated from the section headings in the page. See Help:Section. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:46, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

I have looked at the help section. The right number of = signs enclose the sub-sub-paragraphs in the edit text (I did not need to alter anything), but these are not showing up in the table of contents, e.g. para 3.3 does not show 3.3.1, 3.3.2 etc. Why is this? - P123cat1 (talk) 09:31, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


 * The wikicode at the end of the lead " " is limiting the TOC to the third level of headings. Including lower level headings renders a TOC that is longer than my screen is high. See WP:TOC and please discuss your proposed change on the article talk page. Surprise changes on such high profile article are generally not a good idea. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:01, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

I will leave a note on the talk page. I did not think a change of this sort would be such a big deal; the content of the article was not being altered in any way. --P123cat1 (talk) 10:09, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Death toll articale


Dear Wikipedia publishing team;

I'm writing this letter to express how surprised I am with "Death toll" article. I noticed that "Muslim Conquest on the Indian subcontinent" poped up at the top of the list of "List of Wars by Death toll", it was not even in the list ??!!!

When I checked the reference of these numbers, I was shocked to see there is no concrete evidence for these numbers, I really cannot understand how "demographic changes" can be considered as an evidence for massacres with 60,000,000 to 80,000,000 deaths. It is academically wrong to publish such false info without strong evidence on such huge numbers.

I really advice you to reconsider publishing such false info and seek strong and concrete evidence before putting it here as such false info published here in wikipedia would severely damage your credibility.

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.112.231.109 (talk) 10:29, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


 * In the article death toll the 60,000,000 - 80,000,000 is referenced. You can see this by clicking the small [1] next to the numbers and you will be taken to the details about the reference.  Regarding the Muslim_conquest_in_the_Indian_subcontinent article, although more sources are desired to cite some of the information, I can't see any blatantly wrong information.  Perhaps you can point to a specific piece of information that's unsourced and you feel is false?  CaptRik (talk) 20:29, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

insert a photograph to an article
I ould like to know how to insert a photograph to an article which I wrote. I am writing in arabic and I do not find the right button to insert multimedia files. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mateuris (talk • contribs) 10:50, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you own the copyright to the photograph? If you do not, then you must first get permission to use it under a free licence.  Once you have done that you may upload it.  Before you can insert an image into an article, you must first upload it to  using the form at Commons:Special:UploadWizard.  Spinning  Spark  20:56, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Question?
In the past if I typed Wikipedia into my browser I instantly got Wikipedia with a space to wright my question into. Lately this space does not appear any more. Has that been changed? It was very convenient. Or is Wikipedia becoming as complex and complicated as everything else in computer land? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.170.42.160 (talk) 12:21, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
 * i am not really sure what you mean when you say "a space to wright my question into", but what happens with your browser and where your browser's recommendations autopopulate is determined primarily by your browser settings. --  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  12:30, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


 * They mean that the top result in a Google search for Wikipedia includes a search box so the user can go straight from Google to the article they are looking for. Not all search engines do this, so the answer may be that the user has (accidentally?) changed their default search engine.  Of the ones I tried, Google and Microsoft provide a search box but Yahoo and Ask (Jeeves) do not.  Possibly this is also browser and plugin dependent.  Spinning  Spark  13:01, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

No whitespace between templates
Dear Wikipedians,

On several articles there is a header template followed by a sidebar template without any whitespace in between (see here for an example), which looks rather ugly. One can force a whitespace between them manually (eg. with ), but that's not very elegant and is a potential source of trouble down the line. Is there a better way to handle this? François Robere (talk) 12:57, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The sidebars are based on template:Sidebar which supports an outertitle parameter. So if you add to template:Program execution (or any other problematic sidebar) that does not already have an outer title) the line


 * outertitle = &#38;nbsp;
 * within the sidebar parameters that should space the template down by one line. If you really needed to you could do something more precise with css inside div tags, but just one whitespace character is all you probably want here.  Spinning  Spark  23:55, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Not an ideal solution either, but in the current situation preferable. Who should I alert to solve this issue at the layout engine level? François Robere (talk) 11:19, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * There is nothing wrong with the engine. There are situations where we don't want padding between templates.  If padding is needed, it is down to the template creator to add it with suitable css code or other means.  But to answer your general question, bugs in the software can be reported using WP:Bugzilla.  Spinning  Spark  11:34, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. François Robere (talk) 15:54, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Lledrod
This Lledrod (Bwlch-y-Rhiw farm) is at the other end of Wales, near Oswestry. Although the B4580 is partly within Powys, no part extends to Ceredigion. Thus, the entire page two entry for Bwlch-y-rhiw farm should be deleted: it is entirely another part of Wales.17:21, 25 May 2014 (UTC) clive betts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clive betts (talk • contribs)
 * I have deleted the section, which clearly relates to a different Lledrod (though I would say it's at the other side of Wales, not the other end). Maproom (talk) 21:24, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Edit Teenage Time Killer
I don't know how to change the title - it should read "Killers" with an S — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matfreman (talk • contribs) 21:39, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Of the four sources cited in the article, three refer to the group as 'Killer' rather than 'Killers'. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:44, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

traduzir um texto que irei digitar
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 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:09, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Wow! This inquiry was addressed and answered in 11 minutes. I couldn't even type out such an answer that fast! --Marshall "Unfree" Price 172.56.27.152 (talk) 03:17, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The answer comes from the astray template, so all that needed to be typed was the curly brackets and "astray"! - Purplewowies (talk) 19:36, 26 May 2014 (UTC)