Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 May 5

= May 5 =

Getting #if to work
For. The later revision works fine when the second parameter is supplied. The former revision is supposed to allow it to work without a second parameter (the url should end with the ".php", and the generated anchor should not have the "Number ..."), but it doesn't work at all. What am I doing wrong?

I moved the non-working revision to /sandbox0. Here are test cases:


 * Examples removed due to template being deleted. ~ Rob 13 Talk 04:43, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

-- Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 00:38, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I think maybe what I am trying to do in impossible. I thought of a hack though: Just default the second parameter to something which isn't an anchor on the destination pages. So there will be a vestigial "#..." muddying up the url, but the link will still just go to the top of the appropriate page as intended.  I would still love suggestions for something prettier. -- Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 02:42, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You might be better off at a more technically oriented venue such as WP:VPT or WP:WPT  Spinning Spark  08:23, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * You have encountered the tricky issue at Help:Template. The parameter starting with # is interpreted as if it was at the beginning of a line. You can work around it by encoding that # as . PrimeHunter (talk) 10:40, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I think that works. I tried something similar with &lt;nowiki /&gt; and it didn't work, but it seems the c  does!  Thanks! -- Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 21:07, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * A url cannot contain &lt;nowiki /&gt; so this fails on link syntax and not because of the template issue: #007.062.092p 7.62.92p. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:19, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

How to appeal against an administrator's actions?
DragonflySixtyseven has read my personal submission in my personal sandbox on HOW the WORD Sanctuality was created, its history to a degree and its meaning in complete. As a consequence of Sanctuality also being a free organisation run by ME alone to help people out of poverty, to help them in court cases and to help children and vulnerable adults suffering or experiencing abuse, trafficking and other human rights violations, the very least I expected was DragonflySixtyseven to REVIEW my submission and offer feedback with a caution to change unsuitable material, or the submission would be deleted or I could risk my page being deleted.

As someone that contributes financially to Wikipedia I have never made a literary contribution and depend on those who work for Wikipedia to show a logical, fair and balanced approach to submissions being reviewed and then give fully and appropriate feed back.

This form of dictatorship is beyond words, that I created the word Sanctuality in 1995, then went on to explain what it means with brief historical reference, omitting that it was in part due to a famous song 'She sells sanctuary' and me mishearing it and hence its creation to prevent myself getting into trouble for citing a band, only to have my whole account DELETED without any form of appeal or second opinion. No opportunity to change my sandbox submission, no guidance, no support, no help. Just deleted account for the meaning of a new word! The meaning is neither offensive nor derisive but as with all new words its entry into society depends upon its overall public usage, were here, Wikipedia judge DragonflySixtyseven, has made his or her ruling even though Wikipedia state that the sandbox is a safe place to enter your submissions on potential content for the page.

I shall no longer be funding Wikipedia in the future as I have lost faith that an organisation can be so misleading and dictatorial to this degree without any recourse. I've no doubt that there's millions or organisations on Wikipedia, demonstrating their history etc, they should all be removed, let's start with McDonald's, Apple and others!

Remember this is information that was never published and was placed into the sandbox for advice on it's content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.12.162.41 (talk) 13:43, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hey. Sorry for the inconvenience. You'll note that the block message said "a Wikipedia account is to be used by only one person, and is not to be used to represent an organization as a whole. You are all welcome to create individual accounts" -- this was because the sandbox page seemed to imply that the account was being used by the Sanctuality organization as a whole, which is not allowed. Certainly you personally are welcome to edit Wikipedia, either with or without a registered account; this also applies to every other person in Sanctuality (barring, of course, sanctions which may be taken against individuals for inappropriate behavior!). If the account was not being used by Sanctuality as a whole, but only by one individual person, well, I'm sorry, but there was no way for me to know that, because the account name was the organization name.
 * Furthermore, you'll note that the deletion message said "regrettably, this is not an appropriate use of a userpage. Wikipedia is not a free webhost for your organization". "Regrettably" means "I'm really sorry about this"; "not a free webhost for your organization" means that, in my judgment, what you submitted was basically what would be on Sanctuality's "about us" page on the official Sanctuality website. We can't allow that; if we did, Wikipedia sandboxes would quickly fill up with all kinds of stuff - home pages for organizations, people storing their fiction and blogs, advertising schemes... I've been doing this for a while, I see a lot of stuff. We're very permissive about what you can do in your sandbox, but we're not absolutely totally permissive; there have to be limits somewhere, even if only for the stuff that's legally problematic (and your content was not legally problematic, so don't worry about that!).
 * I'd also like to point out that the Sanctuality organization may be good and worthy, but as far as I can tell, it does not yet meet our criteria for notability. This is not intended as an insult; I'm sure Sanctuality will eventually achieve notability, but at this point that does not seem to be the case. Have patience, and bear in mind our guidelines on conflict of interest.
 * Lastly, please do allow me to apologize for having upset you. DS (talk) 14:15, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi there. As User:DragonflySixtyseven mentions above there is no way for him to know that this account in particular wasn't used by the organization, and that the intention wasn't to promote that organization. This is unfortunately a quite common scenario here at Wikipedia and usually results in the page being speedily deleted for being too promotional and the user blocked.
 * If you want to contribute to Wikipedia and promise to stay away from areas where there is a potential conflict of interest I have no problem unblocking you so that you can apply for a username change. I'll also post this plus some additional information on your talkpage, if you have any questions or comments it's probably easier to handle it there. Bjelleklang -  talk 20:34, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I have added a notice to the user talk page that gives both links to the relevant policies such as the username policy and a few ways to proceed. Regarding the block, it's probably easiest to simply create a new account that doesn't give the impression that the account belongs to an organization than to have your current account renamed - you're free to do so right away. An article, whether about the word itself or the organization whose name it is, however, would require reliable sources that are independent of the subject - according to DragonflySixtyseven such sources don't cover the organization in enough detail (yet) for an article, and coverage for the names of organizations usually is much, much rarer than coverage for the organizations themselves. At a glance I found no reliable sources whatsoever that discussed the term. Thus neither the organization nor the term itself seem to make a good topic for an encyclopedia article at the moment. Huon (talk) 20:46, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Hiding a page from my watchlist
I want to show changes to a talk page on my watchlist, but hide changes to the article page. Per WP:HIDEPAGES this is possible using CSS. I followed the instructions given there but they did not work. I wonder if it may have something to do with the fact that, when I click the link that says "go to your skin.css page", the page that actually appears is called "vector.css". Thank you, --Viennese Waltz 14:54, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You need to remove the colon from the title, that is not an allowed character; css is interpreting it as an attribute/value seperator. These should be replaced with underlines, but as the next character is already an underline just delete it.  Spinning Spark  16:10, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Worked great, thanks. --Viennese Waltz 17:18, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Cerritos College
I'm not sure of the right forum for this, so I'm coming to the Help desk. The Cerritos College article has had some edits today from three different brand new accounts. My guess is that it is a class project. I recall there being a WP page for this type of editing, but I do not remember where it is or the best way to handle this kind of group editing. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks, Bahooka (talk) 15:59, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * School projects.  Spinning Spark  16:20, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Badges
Where to you find your badges? The ones you earn. Where do you find them. Eloguys (talk) 16:31, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I suspect you mean Service awards ? - If not, please explain what you mean by "badges" Arjayay (talk) 16:35, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Unless they're talking about an extension that's enabled on other Mediawiki wikis like some Wikias but is not even installed here as far as I know (they have achievement awards for making edits every day, categorizing, etc.). If they don't mean that, either, I have NO clue... Can you elaborate, Eloguys? - Purplewowies (talk) 02:39, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * User elaborated on my talk page to say that they were talking about the Wikia badge system. (Anyone unsure what that is can see it in the sidebar here: http://wreckitralph.wikia.com/wiki/User:Purplewowies) Unfortunately, Eloguys, we don't have that sort of thing enabled here. Sometimes, if a user notices you are doing something good, they'll give you some WikiLove or a barnstar, but we don't have the achievements extension active here. In fact, I'm not even entirely sure it's a hard-and-fast extension as it's enabled through a special page that itself seems to be enabled through an extension (and Wikia messes with Mediawiki so much I'm almost doubtful it would work here). If you choose to respond to this, please do it here instead of my talk page. - Purplewowies (talk) 05:31, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

principle residence real estate tax
what is the a♣mount seller has to pay on the difference from purchase to sale? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.118.245.10 (talk) 17:46, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. S Philbrick  (Talk)  19:36, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * And if you do post a question on the reference desk, please note that Wikipedia has readers and editors from all over the world, so indicating where in the world you are will probably be helpful. --ColinFine (talk) 21:03, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Malaysia's coat of arms in Malaysia page is incorrect
The Malaysia's coat of arms in Malaysia page missing the two tigers, a crescent, and a 14 pointed stars. I manage to edit it in the 'coat of arms' page but not in Malaysia page. It seems someone like to make my country looks bad in wikipedia page. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jibfitri (talk • contribs) 17:48, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * It looks like the Wikipedia page titled Malaysia is just using the shield, without its supporters. The full coat of arms is noted in the article titled Coat of arms of Malaysia.  Also, no one is trying to make anyone look bad.  -- Jayron  32  17:57, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * There appears to be a copyright problem with the image concerned, see Talk:Malaysia, and at Coat of arms of Malaysia. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:10, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * ..including an old discussion on Wikimedia Commons. :) &mdash; ᴀʟʀᴇᴀᴅʏ ʙᴏʀᴇᴅʜᴜʜ? 20:02, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

student profile
I would like to update student profile and upsate some information. How do I do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solizsuzanne (talk • contribs) 18:33, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  18:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Edit Review - Predator Ridge Resort
Hi there,

I am working for Predator Ridge Resort and we have a tag added to the top of our page stating that "This article appears to be written like an advertisement".

I have read through all articles on wikipedia related to this editor tag and have removed all external url's and anything else that could be construed as advertising.

I would like to request to see if someone could please review my article and let me know if we can have the flag removed.

Many thanks, Michelle Beaudry Digital Marketing Manager Wesbild Holdings Ltd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michb89 (talk • contribs) 19:09, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * You must be joking! "Widely regarded as one of the most beautiful golf courses in Canada", "dramatic elevation changes dotted with beautiful granite outcroppings", "The Predator Course is truly a world class golf experience with rolling hills, long grasses and undulating greens that make for an unforgettable golfing experience", to quote just a few extracts.  Also unreferenced. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:22, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * (sort-of) Well, you should probably start by familiarizing yourself with our conflict of interest guidelines.  The "It looks like an ad" tag refers to the writing style, not the density of external links.  Anyone can add or remove those tags, but given your admitted conflict of interest, I wouldn't recommend doing so yourself, especially since the tag does seem applicable to the prose.  -- N  Y  Kevin   19:28, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Austin organ page seems suspiciously biased
At the very least it is not well-edited. At worst, parts of the article are effusive enough, or overly subjective, to indicate writing by someone connected to the company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.224.105 (talk) 19:12, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The article Austin Organs doesn't look that bad to me. Is this the article being referred to?  RJFJR (talk) 20:59, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Articles that need fine-tuning
Could someone please fix the article called List_of_lesbian_characters_in_animation because I added characters from the List_of_LGBT_characters_in_animation and the page looks messy. Could some fix that? Also I noticed there is/was an empty article called List_of_transgender_characters_in_literature and I transferred info from the List_of_books_featuring_transgender_persons and now that article doesn't look so good to. How about merge the 2 articles together which I don't know how to do? Venustar84 (talk) 20:00, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note that when you are copying content from one article to another, you need to provide appropriate indication for copyright purposes: Copying within Wikipedia.
 * The List_of_lesbian_characters_in_animation table issues has been partially fixed so that it is showing as a table. Can you take care of removing the extra column with "lesbian" or do you need help to fix that as well? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  20:18, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Can the 2 article titles List_of_books_featuring_transgender_persons and List_of_transgender_characters_in_literature be merged into 1 article or can the title of article be redirected? Because there is no need for 2 separate articles with the same content. Venustar84 (talk) 03:20, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Timothy Bloom wikipedia page


I have submitted a page for publication but it still has not been made live. Can someone contact me and let me know what the issue is? I believe we have followed the required format.

20:51, 5 May 2014 (diff | hist). . (0)‎ . . m Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Timothy Bloom ‎ (Edited genre.) (current) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hartmanshouse (talk • contribs)


 * The article was declined on February 5th. The reason given was "subject appears to be a non-notable musical performer or work". It still lacks all references. You should read Wikipedia's policy on notability. Maproom (talk) 22:03, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * You didn't resubmit it, and you deleted the feedback template which includes the resubmit button. I've reinserted it, and it stays there until the draft is accepted for publication. As Maproom says, there is no point in resubmitting it without references.  The feedback and associated comments had many useful links, so you ought to read them. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:21, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

TrueCar Page
I recently made some updates to my company’s page (TrueCar) unaware that they would be flagged for neutrality concerns.

The edits that I made were all in regards to data and news updates as it’s been a couple years since the page was updated. I did some investigating and read that the “Talk” section is where I can suggest future edits; can you confirm that? And what can I do about the current header alert?

Thank you Andrew — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apchung (talk • contribs) 20:56, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, you should request changes on the talk page since you have a conflict of interest. I've looked over the edits that you made and while they are not promotional, they did change several figures that were cited to various references.  Those figures now disagree with what the references say.  In order to change the figures in the article, we should also update the references.  If you could supply those references when you make your suggestions on the talk page, that would be best.  Dismas |(talk) 21:07, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

history of user page
Is this the right space to request that history of my user page be deleted? Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sameer81 (talk • contribs) 21:37, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I guess it is. But my impression is that page histories only get deleted if they contain something seriously bad, such as copyright violations or libellous content. Yours is entirely innocuous — what appears to be a CV/resumé, and a lot of what appears to be stylesheet. Maproom (talk) 22:14, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * No, it's user talk pages that are not generally deleted. Not user pages.


 * User:Sameer81, you may also wish to examine WP:RTV, which may or may not be relevant or useful in your case. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:19, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The page has now been deleted. User pages can be speedy deleted under WP:G7 at the user's request.  Spinning  Spark  10:27, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I think you mean U1 rather than G7. G7 says "If requested in good faith and provided that the only substantial content to the page and to the associated talk page was added by its author.", which is not applicable in this case. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:04, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Rihanna
She won 4 awards last Thursday at the first ever iheart radio awards  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.15.68.18 (talk) 21:55, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * If you'd like to suggest an edit to the article, you may do so at Talk:Rihanna. Dismas |(talk) 22:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) Yes, this is mentioned in both List of awards and nominations received by Rihanna and IHeartRadio Music Awards. Do you have a question? If you think it should be mentioned in Rihanna then you can post a suggestion at Talk:Rihanna. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:47, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Zak Bucia
Good afternoon my son Zak Bucia is on Wikipedia. It has that he was born in San Jose California, but he was born in Lawrence Kansas.... is there a process to change that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.143.45.27 (talk) 22:29, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * The article Zak Bucia doesn't say anything about where he was born. If you have a published, reliable source that says that he was born in Kansas, we can certainly add that info.  Dismas |(talk) 22:40, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol move vote.svg Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:49, 5 May 2014 (UTC)