Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 October 1

= October 1 =

List item deleted but not the redirect that points there
Currently, Grilka redirects to List of Star Trek characters (G–M). The Grilka listing was taken out back in April though. Do we normally keep the redirect in cases like this? Or should it be deleted? Dismas |(talk) 00:10, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Since the redirect itself includes some info, I'd just leave it alone.  (p.s.: I forgot how to make a redirect page an internal link) 71.20.250.51 (talk) 03:26, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

finding search content's key words
too often i search for stuff on duckduckgo or google and find what i'm looking for in the description of the article but can't find it when i actually go to look in the article, so i was wondering if you guys could work with the search engines to highlight the key words that my search and your article have in common. I realize this may not actually be that easy so i'll just leave this with you guys and see if you implement any of that stuff — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.99.146 (talk) 00:37, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Your browser may have a feature to search the current page for a string, maybe with . PrimeHunter (talk) 00:46, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

How do I upload audio on Wikipedia?
I have some audio to compare MP3 with Vorbis. How do I make it appear on the page I am editing? Vorbis None159 (talk) 02:17, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * If the file meets Wikipedia's Copyright rules, you can upload it via the File Upload Wizard. RegistryKey (talk) 02:35, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Jackson Hastings
Please be advised you have wrong information regarding parents.

His mother is Megan Harrod and his father is Kevin Hastings

You have Lynn Hastings as his mother she is not related to Jackson Hastings

Could you please update this information as soon as possible.

Thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.2.29.179 (talk) 07:44, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * The current version of the article shows only his father, and as far as I can tell the article has never named a mother. I'm not sure what you're looking at, but if you still feel Wikipedia is in error please provide a link to the page containing the error. &#8209;&#8209; Mandruss (talk) 07:57, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Update : The article about his father names his father's wife as "Lynn", but it doesn't say that Lynn is Jackson's mother. &#8209;&#8209; Mandruss (talk) 08:15, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Note : A different IP added the mother's name shortly after the above, without a cite. When I went to find a source, I found that the mother is facing big-time embezzlement charges, making it quite evident the motive for adding her name to her son's article. I didn't add the cite, since there are no other sources. Wondering what I should do, if anything. &#8209;&#8209; Mandruss (talk) 15:00, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Info Box UK School
Dear Help Desk

At our school Lady Eleanor Holles School I am trying to edit the info box on the right hand side. The replace the name J Ross as Chair with the current Chair C Stokes. Am not sure how to gain access to do this. kind regards, Shelley newton Shelley Newton (talk) 08:49, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * ✅ Changed to "C S Stokes", per official website and existing name styling in the infobox. Thank you. &#8209;&#8209; Mandruss (talk) 08:57, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

how much time to edit a proposed article?
Hi,

I have submitted an article and a user called Troutman has written back with suggestions for improving it. However, I am going away for the next three weeks and won't be able to make the necessary changes until after October 21. Will this be a problem? Will the article be deleted? If it is, can I submit it again?

ThanksDesperateMamma (talk) 09:33, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No need to worry - draft articles aren't tagged for deletion over inactivity for a minimum of six months. Even if you don't go back to it for six months and it is deleted, you can still have an administrator restore it at Requests for undeletion. There's no rush. Yunshui 雲 水 09:37, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

reverting advertising - 3RR
Hello! I know that reverting vandalism is exempt from 3RR, but what about promotion/advertising? Is that considered a content dispute? If so, what is the best way to have someone review what I believe to be blatant promotional language? Thanks! 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 12:03, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I have removed a load of promotional guff from Magic Software Enterprises. But it might be better just to have the article deleted. It has no independent references. Maproom (talk) 14:16, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi, I would suggest that this would fall under WP:NOT3RR where it states that when in doubt, do not revert and use the dispute resolution procedures instead. The addition of the promotional/advertising material might be being made in good faith by an editor that simply doesn't understand our policy towards it.  CaptRik (talk) 14:21, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you both. WP:DRN was what I was trying to think of.  I should know this already, but I just don't usually edit in contentious areas.    78.26   (spin me / revolutions) 14:26, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Family of T.B.Narasimhachar gave me a photos for use along with the article. It is not copyrighted. How do I tag it?
File:tbn-bw.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rasane (talk • contribs) 14:12, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but everything is copyright unless it is very old (varies from country to country, but 1923 is a typical age) or has explicitly been released into the public domain, or suitably licensed, by the copyright owner(s). If the copyright owner for that picture has published somewhere an explicit release of it (which will allow anybody to use it for any purpose), then it can be uploaded. Otherwise if the copyright owner perform the process described in donating copyright materials, it may be uploaded. Otherwise it can't. Your comment on the upload page says "for fair use in the public domain": this is self-contradictory. "Fair use" is a doctrine which applies to limited use of protected materials, and is irrelevant if the item actually is in the public domain - but you have given no evidence that this picture is in the public domain. --ColinFine (talk) 16:32, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Available no. of abbreviation
I want to know about how many abbreviations you have. because of I have 3000 abbreviation & my am is collect a 1 lac abbreviation & make a world record — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.37.224.55 (talk) 14:46, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Have you seen Lists of Abbreviations? That might be a good starting point.  I can't see any way of providing you a specific number without manually counting.  CaptRik (talk) 15:49, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * If you just look at the three letter acronyms, there are over 10,000 valid combinations (roughly 34,000 possibilities, about a third of which are valid)-- S Philbrick  (Talk)  19:09, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * If you search the Internet with patience and a little creativity then you can probably find dozens or maybe hundreds of meanings on average for random combinations of three letters. Ten years ago I tried that for a four-letter acronym CPAP and got dozens at http://primerecords.dk/meaning.htm. The list could easily be expanded a lot today. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:34, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

What's the current stance on "...in Popular Culture" sections?
The title says it all. I've been more-or-less inactive for a long long time and back when I left this was in dispute. Horselover Frost (talk &middot; edits) 21:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:IPC the same as any other, third party sources establish that content is worthy of coverage and is not original research. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  23:26, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

My wikipage
Sorry to bother you.

My name is Anton Tagliaferro ,I am the founder and Investment Director of Investors Mutual a funds management company I set up in Sydney which manages over $ 5 billion.

My wikipage disappeared many months ago and I wonder what the issues are in terms of republishing on Wikipedia again please ?

Please let me know when you have a chance and email me on

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.136.109.128 (talk) 22:32, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * the first thing is that it is not your page, it is an encyclopedia article.
 * In order to qualify for a stand alone article, the subject must meet basic criteria - that reliable sources, not related to the topic, have found the subject worthy of discussing. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  23:30, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * see also Articles for deletion/Anton Tagliaferro and the pages linked from there. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  23:32, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict): Hello, Anton. I can't find a record of a page called "Investors Mutual" having been deleted, so I can't directly tell you why it was deleted. But I can make a guess. If you were under the misapprehension that it was "your" page, it is quite likely that it was deleted for being too promotional, or for not establishing that the company was notable (in Wikipedia's special sense of the word). Wikipedia has pages about notable subjects - including people and companies. The subject of an article has no control whatever over the article, and indeed is strongly discouraged from editing it, because their conflict of interest is likely to make it difficult for them to write in a suitably neutral manner.
 * If you want to pursue this, I suggest that you
 * Read the page conflict of interest
 * Read WP:CORP to find out just what the criteria are to have an article about a corporation.
 * Go looking for reliable published sources, independent of your company which have written at length about your company.
 * If you find such sources, post a request, with reference to the sources, on requested articles and wait for somebody else to decide to write the article.
 * If you cannot find such sources, go and do something else, because at present no article on your company will be accepted no matter how it is written.
 * Sorry if this is not what you were hoping to hear. --ColinFine (talk) 23:38, 1 October 2014 (UTC)