Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 October 17

= October 17 =

negligence of Wikipedia
List of dialling codes in Pakistan

link above page named as list of dialing codes in pakistan Why Wikipedia has not given correct information on this page?? Dialing codes of Province KPK is not given and also dialing codes of Northern Areas has not given on the page. Is wikipedia want to show KPK province not located in Pakistan. Shame on you Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.32.57.222 (talk) 06:59, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has no intention of pretending Khyber Pakhtunkhwa doesn't exist. Rather than shaming it for an oversight in a very minor article, you could help improve it. Do you know the area codes for cities in that province? InedibleHulk (talk) 07:09, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Protect Userpage
Hi Wiki,

I had created a User page, I shows an edit option at the top of right. I could make way for others to edit my user page. Could suggest methods to protect my page from vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivekanand Selvaraj (talk • contribs) 07:12, 17 October 2014 (UTC)


 * User pages are rarely vandalised, and I know of no reason why anyone would want to vandalise yours. If it ever is vandalised, it will be easy for you to undo the damage: click on "View history" and then on "undo". A few controversial Wikipedia pages are protected from editing, but I doubt this protection would ever be granted to a user page. Maproom (talk) 10:21, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
 * there are in fact many user pages that are protected. but it is only done after a history of inappropriate edits to that page. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  12:39, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

revision history statistics
do you know when "revision history statistics" link wil be up and running (currently down)?. thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:28, 17 October 2014 (UTC)


 * See yesterday. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:34, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject banners on Categories
Should the talk pages of Categories be tagged with WikiProject banners? My impression is that it's rather pointless as Category pages do not have any significant content. I'm referring to "general" content categories, not categories that might be used as part of a particular WikiProject's article management setup. Example; how useful is it for "Category:Italian tennis clubs" to be tagged by the Tennis and Italy projects? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:39, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Dodger67, I agree. Wikiproject banner tags are meant for article talk pages. The guideline (WikiProject Council/Guide) does not forbid it, but gives no mention of usage in category talk pages. For a more conclusive answer, you could ask the WikiProject Council. All the best, Taketa (talk) 21:17, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Add to list of communities on Wikipedia
Gileston in the Vale of Glamorgan is not listed. Can I add it to the list of communities? — Preceding unsigned comment added by QualityCottages300 (talk • contribs) 11:59, 17 October 2014 (UTC)


 * We have an article on Gileston, which is in the category Villages in the Vale of Glamorgan, and also listed in List of places in Vale of Glamorgan. If there's anywhere else you think it should be referred to, please feel free to do so.  Rojomoke (talk) 12:19, 17 October 2014 (UTC)


 * It's also include in the Villages group in Template:Vale of Glamorgan. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:01, 17 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I have added Gileston to Vale of Glamorgan. &#8209;&#8209; Mandruss (talk) 13:04, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Town Linke Church
I recently edited the article on Town Linke Church and cemetery (in Steuben County, New York), correcting the spelling to Town Line Church and Cemetery (as may be seen by the sign over the doors in the photo at top right of the article). However, I have no idea how to change (or request a change) in the entry title itself... so it's still listed under Town Linke Church. It's also listed with this incorrect spelling in the roster of National Register sites in new York. Can someone please advise me what would be the best way to proceed? Kirk House, Director, Steuben County Historical Society — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirkwhouse (talk • contribs) 15:54, 17 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done User:PrimeHunter has moved the page to the correct title.--ukexpat (talk) 16:52, 17 October 2014 (UTC)


 * See WP:MOVE for the procedure. I have also fixed the link in National Register of Historic Places listings in Steuben County, New York. Thanks for reporting the issue and fixing part of the problem but please be careful not to change file names to non-existing names. It means no file will be displayed. Displaying a poorly spelled file is better than displaying a broken link to a non-existing file. That part of your edit has been reverted for now. The files are hosted at Wikimedia Commons where I cannot rename files but I will request it. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:56, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The files have been renamed and Town Line Church and Cemetery now uses the new names. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:35, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Kirk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirkwhouse (talk • contribs) 19:20, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Need to upload correct logo
Hello. I am the Senior Designer at WBBM-TV CBS 2 Chicago. The logo on our Wikipedia page WBBM-TV is incorrect and of dubious origin. Please advise how I, a new user, can expedite uploading the correct logo. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alzo22 (talk • contribs) 16:42, 17 October 2014 (UTC)


 * You can make a request at WP:Files for upload.--ukexpat (talk) 16:49, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Can you highlight text, and press something to surround it with colons to get a nested reply?
Can you highlight text, and press something to surround it with colons to get a nested reply?

It would be like how Wikipedia heading syntax can be added around text in the editing page.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bboyjkang2 (talk • contribs) 23:18, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I really don't understand at all what you are asking for. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  03:38, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't know a tool with such a feature. You only add colons at the start of the line and don't need something balanced to surround the line, so I don't see need for a tool. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:42, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Highlighting could be done like this, but only on talk pages, by using text . Other examples are like this, by using text or

Like this, by leaving a space before the sentence.
 * All the best, Taketa (talk) 04:15, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * My answer assumed you mean like marking text in the edit box and using the toolbar to insert a section heading with an equal number of '=' at each end of the marked text, but instead inserting colons to the left of the marked text to get an indented reply like this with no marking in the saved page. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:23, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * If my reply is to remain nested, each new paragraph has to have preceding colons.


 * If a reply has multiple paragraphs, I would like to select the reply content, press a button, and have it automatically put colons at the start of each paragraph of the reply. Bboyjkang2 (talk) 04:43, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I know what you mean. I sometimes want paragraph breaks to improve readability, and it's cumbersome to indent each paragraph.
 * At some point, everything we do on talk pages will be replaced by a new thing, Flow. My guess is that Flow will make things like that easier, or unnecessary. This is still a ways off, and there is currently no target date for rollout. &#8209;&#8209; Mandruss (talk) 07:53, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Another way may be to input a single 'paragrah' of a text with a single line of colons in front of it to define appropriate indentation an split its contents with HTML    tag. However, such text may be difficult to re-edit later, if some revision is necessary, as there is no obvious, easily visible division of the contents in the source text. --CiaPan (talk) 09:19, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I found a tool with such a function. Special:Preferences has the option:
 * wikEd has lots of features including the icon [[File:WikEd indent list.png]] to increase indentation. If I click it more than once without marking the same text again then I also get increased indentation in earlier text. Unless I missed something, it may often be easier to just copy-paste the same number of colons to the start of each line. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:30, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * wikEd has lots of features including the icon [[File:WikEd indent list.png]] to increase indentation. If I click it more than once without marking the same text again then I also get increased indentation in earlier text. Unless I missed something, it may often be easier to just copy-paste the same number of colons to the start of each line. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:30, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks PrimeHunter! Bboyjkang2 (talk) 07:36, 19 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I know what you mean. I sometimes want paragraph breaks to improve readability, and it's cumbersome to indent each paragraph.


 * 3 possible Chrome extensions for reading**


 * I struggled with reading throughout high school and university.


 * Sentence boundary disambiguation, and sentence segmentation (each sentence on a new line) – search and replace**


 * To aid me in reading very long and difficult pieces of text, I sometimes segment the text by sentence boundaries (put each sentence on a new line).
 * This can be done with a text replacement of “period” “space” with “period” “manual line break” or “new line”.


 * i.e. Search for: . Replace: .\n


 * or


 * “period” “^l”.


 * This is mainly for more difficult material that requires re-reading, as your eyes immediately find the start of the sentence.
 * (I eventually want to find a piece of JavaScript to do this.


 * I’ve already seen a couple scripts that do simple word replacements. e.g. github/com/lazerwalker/literally - chrome.google/com/webstore/detail/literally/odlbpehkpefnmehgdofblnagjpimaanh?hl=en


 * “Replaces occurrences of the word 'literally' with 'figuratively'”.).


 * (In the "Google I/O 2013 - Cognitive Science and Design" talk, the speaker says that experiments show that you can be faster with reading longer lines, but a lot of people prefer, and are more comfortable with reading shorter and more narrow lines: www.youtube/com/watch?v=z2exxj4COhU#t=1409.


 * Sentence segmentation also narrows some rows.).


 * Deleting text that that is already understood**


 * When I want to fully understand a long and difficult piece of text in a word document, I sometimes like to delete sections that I comprehend already.


 * If I need to reread the text, I don’t need to see those understood sections again.


 * I was looking for a way to save web edits so that they wouldn’t revert when I refreshed pages.


 * Two extensions might allow that:


 * Page Archiver


 * >Once a page has been archived, you can also edit the page with the integrated WYSIWYG editor.


 * StyleBot


 * >You can change the font, colors, margin, padding, hide elements or even write your own CSS manually. Your custom CSS styles will be preserved and automatically applied the next time you visit that site.".


 * Independent clause boundary disambiguation**


 * For independent clause boundary disambiguation, and independent clause segmentation you need natural language processing tools like NLTK.


 * e.g. "Sentence boundary disambiguation (SBD), also known as sentence breaking, is the problem in natural language processing of deciding where


 * sentences begin and end".


 * (2 independent clauses in 1 sentence - "disambiguation is the problem", and "sentences begin and end".)


 * "Often, natural language processing tools


 * require their input to be divided into sentences for a number of reasons".


 * (starting from the end of a sentence, and moving left, once an independent clause is found, split at the left of where it starts - 1 independent clause in 1 sentence - "require their input").Bboyjkang2 (talk) 09:15, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * is not supported by IE8 and below; use hilite. poem formats text by retaining spaces and newlines. --  Gadget850talk 09:51, 19 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok. Thanks for the info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bboyjkang2 (talk • contribs) 20:58, 19 October 2014 (UTC)