Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 October 8

= October 8 =

previous username no longer recognized, need to remove picture
I originally uploaded the image File:Courageous Lord.jpg a few years ago for use on a page I was editing. Unfortunately this image has been used without my further permission by (for lack of a better term) uneducated-fanatacist-nutjobs on a news article that is so full of lies and misinformation it's a little scary. I would like to remove the image from wiki to prevent further use, but cannot as the user name I used at that time is no longer recognized. I hold a copyright on the image that pre-dates the wiki agreement if that helps with things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashbrooks (talk • contribs) 01:50, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The image is on Wikimedia Commons and was uploaded by . AkimaDoll is still valid and has contributions. You will have to request deletion on Commons. It sounds like the image was reused elsewhere; if so, deletiong on Commons will not prevent further reuse as it has surely been replicated on the myriad of Wikipedia mirrors. --  Gadget850talk 01:55, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Accounts and passwords never expire. If you have forgotten the password but still have access to the email address you stored in the account then you can use Special:PasswordReset. However, AkimaDoll released the photo under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license in 2010. This allows reuse (when the license conditions are satisfied) and cannot be revoked. The license explicitly says that, so the uploader cannot demand the photo is deleted for copyright reasons. You can try to click the "Nominate for deletion" link at commons:File:Courageous Lord.jpg, but it's uncertain whether the Commons editors will accept a request now. See commons:Commons:Deletion policy. If it's deleted at Commons then others who made a copy before the deletion would still have the right to use the copy. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

"Did you mean" box
I just encountered the Template:Did you mean/box for the first time when mistakenly calling up the title List of common misconception. How does that work? There is no article or redirect at the title. It is a redlink. Where does the template call come from? Moreover, Template:Did you mean, while formerly a separate template, has been turned into a redirect to Template:Distinguish. Very mysterious. Is this a new function? --Florian Blaschke (talk) 02:19, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Clicking the red link and manually adding  to the url (see mw:qqx for this trick) gives [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_common_misconception&action=edit&redlink=1&uselang=qqx] which says "newarticletext" near the top. That means MediaWiki:newarticletext is automatically displayed by the MediaWiki software. The page history shows the test for 's' at the end of the name was added 9 September 2014 in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Newarticletext&diff=624869765&oldid=605903308]. The slash in Template:Did you mean/box means that it is technically a subpage of Template:Did you mean but as you notice, the two pages are used for different purposes. This can be confusing but is entirely possible. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:51, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The feature was announced at Village pump (technical)/Archive 130 PrimeHunter (talk) 02:54, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Awesome, thank you! Fascinating, too. There's clearly a lot of technical stuff that I have no idea about, after a decade of reading on Wikipedia. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 04:33, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Can someone help me with the IPA template?
Can someone who knows better than I do be so kind as to help figure out the IPA template (specifically IPAc-en at George Eighmey? The pronunciation is apparently the same as the name "Amy" (I got the current IPA from Wiktionary). Thanks. Connormah (talk) 06:27, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I think you are right – the IPA /ˈeɪmi/ represents how the name "Amy" is normally pronounced. Maproom (talk) 07:39, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've replaced IPA with IPAc-en, as specified by the OP, so that hovering over the characters will display pronunciation tips. Deor (talk) 11:13, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thanks so much. Best, Connormah (talk) 13:56, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Burmese Buddhist Temple
Reference help requested.

I have no idea what you require me in addressing regarding the referencing error as mentioned above. Pls clarify where feasible or if clicking the 'fix' link will solve anything then it is already done. Must I remove the Reference Errors entry from the talk page or leave it there as it is, if it were rectifying disambiguation links usually the message says it's ok removing the talk page entries.

Thanks, Rongxiang Lin 06:31, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * ReferenceBot was notifying you that the reference you added on 11 Sep had a url parameter with missing URI scheme . BattyBot corrected the error on 14 Sep. You can see this fix in "View history" for the article page. You may ignore the ReferenceBot message, and you may delete it from your talk page if you wish. I agree that it could be more helpful, both in identifying the specific error and in explaining that you may remove it. That would have saved both of us some time. :) &#8209;&#8209; Mandruss (talk) 06:43, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Download book as EPUB
Not so long ago I was able to create a book from selected wikipedia pages and download as EPUB. I've just tried to do this again and it seems only a "Download as PDF" link is available and no way to select a different format.

Is this feature gone permanently? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.197.156.212 (talk • contribs) 09:32, 8 October 2014‎ (UTC)


 * When I view a saved book, there is a box at the top of the page (given by Template:saved book), showing a choice of different formats in which to download. EPUB is the first such choice.  Have you tried it?  For me I got a "Rendering failed" message, reporting "Unknown writer epub".  If you are not seeing the option, are you trying to view the book as a registered user, or logged out? --David Biddulph (talk) 11:37, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe the new PDF renderer does not support EPUB. --  Gadget850talk 11:42, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Category specific export
I want to know how to export wikipedia database xml dumps (ie, all pages) based on specific category. Example: categories: electronics Systemconsole™ (talk) 14:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * this sounds like a job for WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  22:01, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

DEARBHLA WALSH
CAN YOU CORRECT MY YEAR OF BIRTH IN WICKAPEDIA PLEASE - FROM 1954...TO 1968...I COULD DO WITH THOSE TEN YEARS PLUS BACK AS IVE STILL A LOT OF LIVING AND DIRECTING TO DO!

MANY THANKS

DEARBHLA WALSH DIRECTOR
 * The current source was misread. I've removed the year altogether as I couldn't find a reliable source confirming it. --Neil N  talk to me 15:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * The source was not misread, but its reliability is debatable and I couldn't find confirmation either. &#8209;&#8209; Mandruss (talk) 15:47, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The age in the source was referring to Brendan Gleeson, not Walsh. --Neil N  talk to me 11:57 am, Today (UTC−4)


 * You are correct, sorry. &#8209;&#8209; Mandruss (talk) 16:03, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Page edit query
Colt Group S.A.

Hi, I am a company employee looking to edit our company page. There has been a company re-structure and I need to add a few paragraphs to explaain how we operate. So it is more than just changing a few facts. Am I okay to do this? Also, how do i reference the new information, I am an employee so I know it to be true and factual, however the changes have taken place before our new annual report, therefore I do not have a referencing document.

Please advise Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddaly11 (talk • contribs) 15:26, 8 October 2014‎ (UTC)


 * Thank you for disclosing your conflict of interest. When eventually there are published reliable sources independent of the company to verify the information that you propose to add, you can propose the changes (with the supporting references) on the article talk page, but until then the changes are not acceptable, as your personal knowledge does not satisfy Wikipedia's requirement for WP:verifiability.  There is no hurry. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * A non-independent source such as the company's own website would be adequate for non-controversial factual data (such as dates, names of officers, locations) but not for any discursive text about their activities or intentions. (And just because such information can be verified from the company's website does not necessarily mean the information is appropriate for a Wikipedia article). --ColinFine (talk) 16:48, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Proper way to edit or change a photo on a profile page
I am still new to the Wiki and Wikipedia world. If you look at my profile you will see that I attempted to edit the primary photo for Luke Wilson. It appears that the change took but the source information did not. I want to make sure that I know how to follow the rules properly. I seem to have overwritten some of the information from the source of the previous photo rather than just adding my own new photo and information. One of the items that I am referencing is the date and location i.e. 2009. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeburroughs1989 (talk • contribs)
 * You have no edits to Luke Wilson so I'm not sure what you're referring to. --Neil N  talk to me 15:40, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * ' edit was on Wikimedia commons, at commons:File:TexasHoFAwards09LukeWilson.jpg. However, I'm afraid I have reverted it, as the new image you uploaded from iMDB is clearly marked as copyright Getty Images, and is in no circumstances permitted on Commons. Jeburroughs, images are permitted on commons only if they are licensed under CC-BY-SA or something at least as liberal. In certain circumstances non-free material may be used on Wikipedia, but only if it meets all the criteria in non-free content criteria which pictures of living people almost never do. --ColinFine (talk) 17:05, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry,, I didn't answer your main question. You can edit the metadata on a Commons image the same way as editing any other page: pick "Edit" at the top. But most of the information on such pages is in templates, which have a defined list of parameters and the values which must be given. So, for editing information in the "Information" section, you really need to go to commons:Template:Information to see what it needs. (From a page in commons, you'd just need to go to Template:Information). --ColinFine (talk) 17:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Dates: AD or CE
Is there a Wikipedia rule or practice guideline concerning use of dating between the religious-based BC/AD (Before Christ/Anno Domini [Year of our Lord]) and the secular-based BCE/CE ([Before] Common[or Christian] Era) systems, or dealing with edits that change from one to the other? Thanks. - Embram (talk) 15:55, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I think the applicable guideline is here. &#8209;&#8209; Mandruss (talk) 15:59, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for. I did a search but couldn't find it. - Embram (talk) 16:47, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I find it amusing that some people are offended by the use of BC and AD, when they've been in use for the longest time now and nobody ever gave a blast about them before. Tharthandorf Aquanashi (talk) 16:49, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * BC and AD are relatively recent, it is currently 7522 in the Byzantine calendar, AM 5775 in the Hebrew Calendar or 5128 in the Long count - Arjayay (talk) 17:10, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * And 2767 AUC.--ukexpat (talk) 20:39, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * See 2014 for a longer list. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:46, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I didn't understand Tharthan to mean "for the longest time" this literally ... --Florian Blaschke (talk) 04:37, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Publisher parameter in cite templates
In the article Akshay Kumar the publisher–The Times Group is shown in some references in parenthesis and in others without them. Can anyone help me in fixing this. Thanks.--Skr15081997 (talk) 15:59, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Use cite news or cite journal, not cite web. --  Gadget850talk 16:14, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

images or graphic
When I click on an image or picture, I get a blank page. When I go back, it returns to the main page. Help. Millie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Milliegrab (talk • contribs)


 * That sounds like a problem with a controversial feature called Media Viewer. Logged in users can disable it at Special:Preferences. Remove the checkmark at "Enable Media Viewer" and click Save. It will only be disabled while you are logged in. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:43, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

This page is full of errors
La Salle Expeditions

THIS PAGE IS FULL OF ERRORS.

Yes, I would like to shout this by editing the page with the above capitalized sentence. I am currently doing intense research on La Salle and reading his letters. When I have some time I could update. but the fact it could be changed again is a bit of a discouragement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.95.237.130 (talk) 15:49, 8 October 2014‎ (UTC)
 * Hi, providing sources for the suggested changes will greatly increase the chances of your edits being accepted. I suggest you post any proposals on the talk page: Talk:La Salle Expeditions, so other people can read them and give feedback. That decreases any chance of removal and provides you with an easy way to add content to the article. All the best, Taketa (talk) 21:08, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * In addition to the advice above, it's worth considering that we don't accept original research. Any changes you consider making should cited to sources that wikipedia considers reliable.  CaptRik (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Recent Submission
Dear Staff,

I submitted an article regarding ACI Academy recently, and the article was declined. I would like to find out why it has been declined. Please kindly assist.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AMY YU YU (talk • contribs) 15:51, 8 October 2014‎ (UTC)
 * Hi AMY YU YU, an explanation can be found at the the top of the page at User:AMY YU YU/ACI ACADEMY. In my view the topic is not noteworthy enough for an article. Wikipedia has a minimum standard of notability before a topic can have its own article, a topic should be widely covered in secondary sources. No independent secondary sources are provided in this article. In my opinion you should focus first on finding sources for this article before anything else. Secondly it reads as an advertisement. The text makes very positive claims without any sources. Example: "Kelly Chu has continuously demonstrated her expertise in both the education and business sectors. Her vast experience in multiple roles has made her preeminent in her field." Moreover, it is written in the first person (I and We) instead of the third person, which should not be used, and which indicates a conflict of interest on behalve of the author. Finally, most of the article is about the owner instead of the academy. I hope this helps in any way. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 21:05, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * A more serious problem is that the text of the page was taken directly from http://www.aciacademy.com/about-our-director.php and http://www.aciacademy.com/our-mission-and-vision.php The notice on the page id that the text is copyrighted.  Wikipedia takes copyrights seriously, so I have deleted the page as a copyright violation.  GB fan 21:42, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

IP question
If you've got an ISP that assigns multiple IPs, i.e.dynamic, not sticky, you fail to log in, so you're posting now as one of those IP's, then you make a comment as that IP that gets you blocked, will you still be able to log into your named account and edit here; because you got shifted to another IP? SW3 5DL (talk) 21:02, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Though it is possible, editing with a second ip adres is considered "avoiding a block" and is a permanent block offence, which will lead to deeper investigation into the accounts. Please do not in any way get involved in such matters. -- Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 21:14, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL, no, I'm asking because an IP that had been disruptive got blocked and then another editor, whom I suspect is the sock master, hasn't been commenting since. I'm interested to see if he comes back after the IP's block expires. I was thinking, now the IP's been blocked, a range block might have sunk the sock master, as well. That would certainly add to the evidence because the edit times were also very close, as was the language, etc. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 23:07, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

haneous
define haneous — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.136.36.31 (talk)


 * Do you mean heinous? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:51, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Columbine High School massacre
This is David Olinger, an investigative reporter for The Denver Post, which won the 2000 Pulitzer Prize for breaking news coverage of the Columbine High massacre. I am stunned by your reliance on BBC, CNN, Slate, Salon and other non-newspaper sources, which often got their news from The Denver Post about the shootings, the investigation and the scene inside the high school. In particular, I am offended by your use of BBC as the source for a report that Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris hoped to kill at least 500 people, and their diaries spoke of a plan to highjack a plane and crash-land it in New York City. I wrote that story after a late-night, exclusive interview with the Jefferson County sheriff, and the department spokesman confirmed our story when reporters from all over the world read it in The Denver Post. A framed copy of that newspaper hangs on our Pulitzer wall. If you would just check the date of my story, you would find that BBC followed and confirmed it. Please get your original sources straight and recognize that newspapers still play an important role in providing news to the digital and television sources. I'd appreciate a response and a correction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.165.229.187 (talk • contribs) 23:54, 8 October 2014‎ (UTC)


 * Our article about the Denver Post is at The Denver Post. It has a section about Pulitzer prizes which covers the one you mention. What material, in which article, do you believe is incorrect? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:09, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe that OP is referring to Columbine High School massacre. Of its 113 sources, only 4 are The Denver Post.  Dismas |(talk) 00:14, 9 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm unfamiliar with any guideline that says that we should use the original source as OP suggests. Could someone clarify this point for me?  Thanks!
 * Also, I would suspect that many editors here go with sources such as CNN, BBC, and Slate (just to name a few) since they are not likely put their content behind a paywall like many newspapers are doing these days. I wouldn't take it as a slight against newspapers.  Dismas |(talk) 00:12, 9 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and does not have a policy to reference the original publisher of a statement. We only have a policy to give a reference to some reliable source which contains the statement. The article does not claim or imply that it originates from BBC. A browser search shows The Denver Post is currently referenced four times in Columbine High School massacre, but not for the content you mention. By the way, the Pulitzer Prize is mentioned in The Denver Post, 2000 Pulitzer Prize and Pulitzer Prize for Breaking News Reporting. The place to make suggestions for the article is Talk:Columbine High School massacre, but if you do it then please be specific about what to write and which reference to use. Considering our conflict of interest policy, it may be best if you don't add references to the Denver Post directly to the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:31, 9 October 2014 (UTC)