Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 September 7

= September 7 =

Do categories follow a merge?
An example is at Mantell UFO incident, which has the category Category:1922 births. Is this normative, or do people sometimes put categories on redirects, such at Thomas Mantell?

The current issue has to do with an article at AfD: Santa Clara County Park Ranger, in which an editor has removed the categories from the new target article Santa Clara County Parks and Recreation Department. Specifically, the categories removed are Unscintillating (talk) 00:27, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * 1)   * Specialist law enforcement agencies
 * 2)   * Specialist police departments of the United States
 * 3)   * Lists of United States law enforcement agencies by state
 * 4)   * Law enforcement agencies of California
 * 5)   * California law-related lists
 * 6)   * Law enforcement in California
 * 7)   * Law enforcement in the San Francisco Bay Area


 * Generally, categories are avoided on redirects except for maintenance categories. However, there are some exceptions, and your example is one.  It is a nonsense to give an article on an event a birth category.  See Redirect. SpinningSpark 01:06, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Ethnic categories

 * Question about the category Category:African-American_television and Category:Hispanic_and_Latino_American_media Is it suitable to place the TV show Orange_Is_the_New_Black under those two category since the cast members and characters are a diverse ethnic mix Venustar84 (talk) 03:53, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It seems to me those cats need better definitions, including a source in the article identifying them as such. If "since the cast members and characters are a diverse" then I Love Lucy would be Category:Hispanic_and_Latino_American_media because it starred Desi Arnez and that is just crazy. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  11:55, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Lede
Why is the Lead often called the "lede"? Where does "lede" come from? --P123ct1 (talk) 09:27, 7 September 2014 (UTC)


 * lede. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:53, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. --P123ct1 (talk) 11:44, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Please don't use "lede". Please write "lead". We are not a newspaper, and using journalistic shorthand (which isn't even short, if I might add) is inappropriate. RGloucester  — ☎ 18:07, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, . I was about to reply to you that Wikipedia consensus had established that "lede" was the preferred spelling, and advise you that if you wanted to change the consensus you should open a discussion somewhere (perhaps the Village pump. But I looked at WP:LEDE, and to my surprise found that that article consistently uses the spelling "lead", (though it gives "lede" as an alternative in the introduction). I shall henceforth revert to using "lead". --ColinFine (talk) 18:44, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I've always been baffled by the use of "lede", despite the fact that the guidelines have always used "lead", and that "lede" is no shorter than "lead". It is one of my pet peeves, if I may so. RGloucester  — ☎ 19:00, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Me too. What about the "lede lap in a race"?  -or, "an elephant in the lede of a parade", etc...?  —71.20.250.51 (talk) 20:00, 7 September 2014 (UTC)


 * There is an apocryphal story that the use of lede was instigated to prevent stupid printworkers from starting to pour hot lead when they had really only been instructed to typeset the front page lede. SpinningSpark 20:31, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Today's featured article
what is 'Today's Featured photo and Articles???i don't understand--Bhootrina (talk) 15:38, 7 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Today's featured article & Picture of the day. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:59, 7 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Essentially, it is featured content (displaying "Cscr-featured.svg" on the top-right as "the best that Wikipedia has to offer")  –that has been nominated by "the community" (which includes you) and selected by consensus.   —71.20.250.51 (talk) 21:53, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Info box picture size
As of yesterday, the infobox picture I'm referring to was a larger size, and as of this morning, it's smaller. Also I was wondering about how to add a section to the info box. When I go to 'edit source', the cause of death (by the way, I'm referring to the John Belushi page)but the cause of death is not shown on the info box, why is that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnsgirl84 (talk • contribs) 17:07, 7 September 2014 (UTC)


 * The infobox picture is now the correct size, rather than the ridiculously oversized picture it was previously, as here.  Template:Infobox comedian does not support a "Cause of death" parameter, so this would require nested infoboxes which is quite complex.  I note a number of your edits to the John Belushi page have been reverted because of your removing cited material, and your addition of personal opinions. When you started editing the page on 28 August, the article was 23kb long and had 22 references, it is now 29kb and only has 20 references.  Please ensure that your additions are supported by references, or they may well be removed. - Arjayay (talk) 18:52, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Can't recover my lost password because I had no email recorded when I created my Wikipedia account plz help
I wanted to use my existing username on Wikipedia but I could not do so because of the lost password. When I click forgot password option it tells me to enter one of the options I entered my username there but, since I do not already have my email recorded with Wikipedia I could not recover my password. Please help me, so that I can sign in to my account. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.245.35.243 (talk) 17:40, 7 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but we cannot recover accounts in which the owner has forgotten their password and did not provide an email address. You will need to create a new account, and then make it clear on your userpage that the account in which you forgot the password for is your old account and your new account is a legitimate sockpuppet; in short, declaring your sockpuppet. --k6ka (talk &#124; contribs) 17:52, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

About Indian map on page 'INDIA'
Hello I am a concern Indian citizen and I have found a mistake in the map of India as you have show Jammu & Kashmir as not a part of India but it is a state of Indian territory as it is concern with our emotions and it is really very hot issue between India Pakistan and China. So I request you to please correct it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.214.148.202 (talk • contribs)
 * Do you have reliable sources that support your interpretation? And do they represent the mainstream academics viewpoints? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  18:47, 7 September 2014 (UTC)


 * This has been discussed many times and will not change. Talk:India/FAQ says: "The map shows the actual borders and all related claims; it cannot exclusively present the official views of India, Pakistan, or China. See WP:NPOV." Note that the map at India also shows the Indian color for an area claimed by Pakistan but controlled by India, so Wikipedia does not side with Pakistan in the conflict. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:39, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

User:Kober
Kober the editor you trust does not seem reliable or objective or wise. do you really trust this person to edit Wikipedia? You have to be kidding.

User:Kober — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.129.190.238 (talk) 19:58, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * And what is your question about how to use/edit Wikipedia? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  20:00, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * And that's their first ever edit. :) --KoberTalk 05:22, 8 September 2014 (UTC)