Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 April 13

= April 13 =

Referencing errors on Centration
Reference help requested.

I was trying to input a citation for a textbook entitled invitation to the lifespan, but was told I did it incorrectly. I was hoping for guidance on how to fix the citation.

Thanks, Epershing (talk) 00:22, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Fixed in these edits. 2 hiccups: You do not need to specify whether its ISBN 10 or 13 (just plug the ISBN number itself into the field), and the Accessdate field did not recognise the exact format you used (it either needs to be ISO Date format - YYYY-MM-DD - or written out in full). As an aside, the accessdate field is only for web-based / electronic sources which can rapidly change ... the publication date field is sufficient for deadtree sources. -- saberwyn 00:36, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Replace my Company Logo
Dear Administrator, I need to replace the company logo (Telin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telin) to the updated ones and unfortunately I could't succeeded. How can you help as the company logo that currently used is the red font small orbital as seen in www.telin.co.id.

I have the hires logo and if you need it please contact me.

Thank you, Melani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melani828070 (talk • contribs)


 * I've uploaded the company logo that I found on the home page of the company you referred to and placed that new image in the infobox of the Telin article. Dismas |(talk) 03:51, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Dismas Ela (talk) 04:30, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Find differences in a diff
Is there a way to find what actually changed in the paragraphs of an edit such as this? In this case, the paragraphs after the table are not aligned because an empty newline was inserted, which, as Help:Diff explains, prevents the matches.

One way I can think of would be copying the whole text of before the edit in the sandbox, then editing that by replacing the whole text with the text after the edit, with the exception of leaving out the change that caused the misalignment, as the added newline in my example. If there are still paragraphs misaligned, search for other causes and repeat as needed. Obviously, this is prohibitively cumbersome for any but the most suspicious cases. &mdash; Sebastian 05:01, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * You could try something like text-compare.com. If I'm reading its results correctly, the only change to that para was the inexplicable change of  to  . (The same IP subsequently corrected that, and we now have a bluelink where a redlink once stood.) &#8213; Mandruss   &#9742;  05:09, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey Sebastian. There is a script that is perfect for this. Just add to Special:Mypage/common.js this text:


 * Save, clear your cache, and then when you look at a diff you can toggle on an enhanced diff view by clicking on a button that looks like this: [[Image:wikEdDiff.png]], which will appear above the regular diff view. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:18, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Wowie, I already had that installed and didn't know it would be a solution to this problem. Thanks. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  05:21, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * That works - thanks a lot! &mdash; Sebastian 06:03, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * , you can select that as a Gadget from your preferences as well btw. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 07:54, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * The gadget appears to be called wikEdDiff and is fully documented on this user page. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  09:25, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Grand Prix Sunbeams 1922
Reference help requested.

Hello, I have had an automatic message about a cite error in a new page I have created, but it doesn't tell me what the error is! I am happy to fix if I know what I need to amend. How can I see what the error is though? This is the first page I have created, so please excuse my ignorance if there is an obvious answer to this.

Thanks, Hannahmarymartin (talk) 05:50, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * It does say " Cite error: A   tag is missing the closing   (see the help page).  ". This is because you forgot the slash in front of the closing tag. I'll change this.
 * But there is another problem: There is apparently a garbled headline " ==Design ". Since we usually don't have a reference right after a headline, I assume this is an error, and I'll delete it. &mdash; Sebastian 06:22, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * While I was writing this, Someone else already made the change. &mdash; Sebastian 06:25, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Transcluding a Category
Is there a way to transclude the content of a Category into another page? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:55, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * So that it creates a list? Give us an example of what you want to do, it'll make answering a bit easier. - X201 (talk) 09:00, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I would like to keep an eye on Category:Draft-Class Disability articles by transcluding the list of articles into my user page - or if the other members agree, even display it on the WikiProject page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:03, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * This  will produce the following
 * Is that any use? - X201 (talk) 09:20, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * @X201, That's perfect, It's even already collapsed. Thanks Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:08, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * @X201, That's perfect, It's even already collapsed. Thanks Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:08, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Corrections and edits constantly deleted
I manage the rock band Anavae. We inherited a wiki page set up by a former vounteer.

The page at Anavae is problematically innaccurate, poorly written and is actually causing professional damage to the band by misleading readers and the BBC as to the band’s status etc.

I have tried to edit the page on three seperate occasions now and each time when I go back to make sure all is OK my edits have been deleted and the page has reverted to its former innaccurate condition.

What can I do or who can I get in touch with to remedy this please.

The BBC are using the Anavae wiki page for their information source and so all the information they broadcast on air and on line about the band is innaccurate!

Help please

Dave Wibberley Davewibberley (talk) 14:35, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't have a lot of time for a lengthy answer but in short see WP:AUTOPROB. Dismas |(talk) 14:47, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * There has been no discussion at all on the talk page, Talk: Anavae. The place for discussion of issues with the article is the talk page.  If discussion on the talk page fails (and it hasn't been tried yet), read the dispute resolution policy.  Also read the conflict of interest policy because you have a conflict of interest and are discouraged from editing the article (but are encouraged to post to the talk page).  Robert McClenon (talk) 15:01, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * And,, it may help you understand what is going wrong if you realise that you did not "inherit" the page, because you do not own it in any way at all. It belongs to Wikipedia, and may be edited by almost anybody in the world as long as they follow Wikipedia's principles. You are one of the few people who are discouraged from editing it, because of your conflict of interest. We are keen that the article be accurate according to reliable published sources, and as says, you are welcome to post requests and suggestions on the talk page; but if you cannot back them up with published references (and, apart from uncontroversial factual information, the references must be indepedent of you and the band) then they will probably not get acted on. --ColinFine (talk) 17:33, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Renaming of an article
Hello, I want to rename the article "James Gill (artist)" into "James Gill". The article "James Gill" doesn't exist yet, there is only a link to a rock band which had a member named James Gill. The article "James Gill" exists also in DE and FR. Futher languages (ES, PT, SE, FI) will follow. Could you please help? Norbert Schott (talk) 17:14, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Huh? James Gill is a disambiguation page for eight people. James Gill (artist) could get the title if he was the primary topic but he doesn't appear to be more searched or significant than all the others put together. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:24, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * James Gill is a disambiguation page, it helps people find other people called James Gill. I can't see that any of them (including the artist) is worthy of being a primary topic. - X201 (talk) 15:27, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for calling our attention to the current state of that article, which distinctly fails to meet our standards with regard to neutral point of view, promotional language and proper sourcing of articles on living persons. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  17:40, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * When Norbert Schott wrote "[t]he article 'James Gill' doesn't exist yet", I think he meant that there is no template of that name. He had tried moving the article to "Template:James Gill", and it had been restored. Maproom (talk) 21:19, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

can't find page
Hi there. I was working on two different articles at once, and not long ago asked the help desk how to do that. The respondent moved one of the pages I was working on to a different page oter than the Sand Box. Now I can't remember/locate where the first page I was working on is. Can you help me with that? Suzcommun (talk) 17:05, 13 April 2015 (UTC) Suzanne
 * Hi You can always view a list of your past contributions at Special:Contributions/Suzcommun. It looks like the two pages you've been working on are User:Suzcommun/sandbox and Draft:Daniel Schwab. ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 17:09, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * There is a draft article you have worked on at Draft:Daniel Schwab and one in your sandbox at User:Suzcommun/sandbox. The only other on you have worked on is D&H Distributing.  It is not a draft but an article.  -- GB fan 17:10, 13 April 2015 (UTC)