Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 August 3

= August 3 =

IPv6 transition mechanisms
I try, without success, to update the common "IPv6 transition mechanisms" frame found at the upper right corner of several pages ("IPv6 rapid deployment", "IPv4 Residual Deployment", etc.) In this list, he "4rd" reference has to be moved from "Drafts" to "Experimental". How to do this? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Remi-Despres (talk • contribs) 08:12, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * This is a template, which you can view and edit here: Template:IPv6_transition_mechanisms  Rwessel (talk) 08:35, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Done. Thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Remi-Despres (talk • contribs) 09:28, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Blank maps
I need a blank map of Great Britain for a project I am doing. I want to draw in the regions on the map (I have the appropriate software) during the Rule of the Major-Generals (I have sources). Which is the best one to use and where can I find it?

-- PBS (talk) 09:59, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I can't find a good blank map of Great Britain. But I see that Rule of the Major-Generals refers only to England and Wales. Would File:England and Wales.svg or File:England and Wales Historic Counties HCT map.svg do? Maproom (talk) 13:33, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * See also files in these Commons' categories:
 * Commons:Category:SVG locator maps of the United Kingdom (location map scheme)
 * Commons:Category:Locator maps of the United Kingdom
 * CiaPan (talk) 13:40, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Actually Ireland and Scotland were already under English military rule, so the English were only imposing on themselves what they had already imposed on Ireland and Scotland. However for what I want to to do those maps you have provided are very useful. -- PBS (talk) 17:55, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Salman Farooq
Hi,

I have a page on Wikipedia with my name (Salman Farooq), I wanted to inquire If I can link a family member who is also on Wikipedia to my page.

Thanks Salman Farooq — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salman UAE (talk • contribs) 10:34, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * If you are closely related to the subject of another article, it would probably be good to mention the relationship in each article. But it would be best not to add it yourself, as you have a conflict of interest. Ideally, you should mention the relationship on the talk page of one of the articles (or here, as those talk pages may not have many readers), so that an independent editor can add the mentions. If possible, you should supply a reference, such as to a newspaper article that mentions the relationship. Maproom (talk) 17:23, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I would echo the last thing said, but much more strongly. Please do not add such things as family relationships unless you cite a reliable published source. --ColinFine (talk) 23:38, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Note: you DON'T HAVE a page on Wikipedia and there is no YOUR page on WIkipedia; there is a page about you on Wikipedia. See FAQ/Overview --CiaPan (talk) 05:24, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Wrong information on a Pharmaceutical Page
Medochemie

It mentions that the company produces vaccines which it does not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.109.236.49 (talk) 12:57, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for pointing this out. I can find no evidence that it produces vaccines. I have deleted both mentions of them from the article. Maproom (talk) 13:28, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

How to merge articles' wikilinks
I was reading Zagora, Morocco and wanted to look at the French article on the same town, since Morocco has a lot of connections to France and there might be more information in that language. When I clicked the link to the French (Français) version, though, I was taken to a French user page. Meanwhile, the French Wiki article that actually covers the town is fr:Zagora (Maroc). When I tried to save my edit to replace the link to the user page with a link to the correct French article, though, I got this error message: "The link frwiki:Zagora (Maroc) is already used by item ‪(Q20669964). You may remove it from ‪(Q20669964) if it does not belong there or merge the items if they are about the exact same topic." How would I go about merging these items, or is there a better way to fix this link? Thanks in advance. Marco polo (talk) 13:45, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * This information is stored on the sister project Wikidata. It will be best to ask your question there. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat Periglio (talk) 13:53, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * in this edit.--ukexpat (talk) 14:20, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Retail business page
Hi THere

I've posted an article about a company but I need to understand how to add the panel on the righ hand side with website info etc.. Also, does the page need to be in a category?

Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChrisK10000 (talk • contribs) 17:10, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * You have not "posted an article". You have used your user page to write about a company. What you have written would not be accepted as an article: for one thing, it completely lacks references to establish that the company is notable enough to have an article. So adding what we call an "infobox" to it would not be relevant. And you should not try to add it to a category. Maproom (talk) 17:16, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * , I have moved your draft to User:ChrisK10000/Walls and Floors. Your user page should be used to describe you as a Wikipedia editor, not hold an article draft. DES (talk) 17:21, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * As to an infobox, eventually infobox company might be relevant, but not until sourcing and tone is much improved, as Maproom says above. DES (talk) 17:21, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Draft:The Cash Box Kings
I want to resubmit a rejected article I created after making the appropriate fixes and changes, but I can't find where to resubmit the page. The article is Draft: The Cash Box Kings. Please help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tcobrin (talk • contribs) 18:13, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I have re-added the "Submit" button, which you deleted yourself with this edit. Maproom (talk) 18:24, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Adding a "notable person" to a City/States Wikipedia page
Hello. I created an account and began adding to "Notable People" in the Shawnee, Oklahoma Wiki page. I added the following: Ron Sharp, United States Senator 2012-2016

But it never showed up in the preview. I tried to troubleshoot before bringing this to you but I need your help. Many thanks. Emily — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmilyCRose (talk • contribs) 22:04, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The edit you just made to this helpdesk is the only edit registered to your username. I see that there have been some attempts to edit Shawnee, Oklahoma recently but most were vandalism and none of the recent edits involved Ron Sharp.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  22:07, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * In addition, names in the notable people section should only be added if there is an existing article about the person. I do not see that there is an existing article about Ron Sharp.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  22:11, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * We cannot say what went wrong without seeing your code but as said above, lists of notable people are generally only for people with Wikipedia articles. It's highly unlikely there wouldn't be an article about a current United States Senator but Ron Sharp is only in the Oklahoma Senate. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:56, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * There's no reason she couldn't add a redlink and a description; a state senator should eventually get an article. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:28, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * It varies but many articles have a practice or even an agreed policy to remove all redlinks in lists of allegedly notable residents or alumni. There should at least be a reference to a source supporting both the claim to notability and that the person is from the place. My above source has both. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:59, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * And I created the stub (boy, is it a stub!). -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  14:55, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

External in-line link
mentions the U'mista Cultural Society in a fairly significant role. As an organization dedicated to "the survival of all aspects of the cultural heritage of the Kwakwaka'wakw" nation, they promote the use of an orthography for the Kwak'wala language. The mention is redlinked, but the Society has a website of its own.

It seems to me that any referent worth an in-line wikilink is worth an in-line external link if that's all that's available. I have added one in the text (as well as the External links section). External links seems to disallow or discourage such links, with exceptions and modifications, but I cannot easily tell from it what policy it urges for this case. Advice, please! Please me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 23:17, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * This is indeed against our practices. If you really think the website is important to readers of that paragraph who don't look in the external links section then try to work in an inline reference so the reader only has to click the reference number to reach a link in the references section. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:51, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I still think it's a kludge to work around an incompletely thought out policy, but I have done that :
 * For example, |archivedate=2011-08-28 "Kwak'wala Alphabet Poster". U'mista Cultural Society: Language Education Products. Archived from the original on 2011-08-28. Retrieved 4 August 2015.
 * Please me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 01:29, 4 August 2015 (UTC)


 * An article may be created later. And I think it would be a spam invitation to tell people to make external links in the body at mentioned subjects without an article. We get enough spam in external links sections where it's at least easy to spot and clean up. WP:REDDEAL says that an interlanguage link can be added if another Wikipedia language has an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:51, 4 August 2015 (UTC)


 * That makes good sense. Thank you for clearing it up for me.
 * The ref in the article is to the poster, which is directly relevant to promoting the orthography. The External links one is to the home page, for the broader but looser relevance of the organization. --Thnidu (talk) 02:53, 4 August 2015 (UTC)