Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 December 13

= December 13 =

Replacing stub with good draft
I reviewed Draft:Tebufenpyrad at Articles for Creation, and was prepared to accept it, but there is already a stub Tebufenpyrad. The draft is much better than the stub and should take its place. I can see three ways that this can be done. First, the stub can be proposed for deletion to make way for the draft, and the draft moved over the stub when the stub is deleted. Second, the draft can be copy-and-pasted over the stub. Third, an administrative history merge can be requested. The first has the disadvantage that it doesn't preserve the history of the stub. The second has the disadvantage that it doesn't preserve the history of the draft. The third has the disadvantage of being the most work. Is it important to preserve both histories, or can ignore all rules be used to simplify the process and take the first or second approach? Robert McClenon (talk) 02:46, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * We don't need to preserve the history of the stub, because if everything is replaced with content from the draft, there are no live edits in the stub left to be attributed. As far as I'm concerned WP:G6 applies. Finnusertop (talk &#124; guestbook &#124; contribs) 04:28, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I tagged the stub for WP:G6 and will accept the draft when the stub is deleted. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:40, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The stub included an infobox, which the draft did not. The speedy was declined, and I have requested a history merge.  Robert McClenon (talk) 15:24, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Roger Lupton
Please help me include the quote for ref. number 23 on the above page. thanks101.189.56.6 (talk) 04:43, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * . See . Finnusertop (talk &#124; guestbook &#124; contribs) 04:47, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

could you check again that my quote is OK - I have corrected it. Thanks for your help re Roger Lupton  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.189.56.6 (talk) 04:51, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's OK. Finnusertop (talk &#124; guestbook &#124; contribs) 04:56, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Roger Lupton
Sorry to bother you again. RE -  the "Lupton crest" box on this page, please remove typo of the word "or" at the end. It is a mistake. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.189.56.6 (talk) 05:15, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Already . -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 07:13, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Lupton family
Please HELP!! I have mucked up the adding of a ref. and a link - Henry VII - to go into the crest box -file(?) - on this page Please help. The whole crest box has vanished. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.189.56.6 (talk) 05:19, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * . For future reference, if you make an error, please undo it yourself rather than reporting it here]]. Finnusertop (talk &#124; guestbook &#124; contribs) 05:27, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Collapsing a table
The table located here ("The Garth Brooks World Tour ticket sales records"), although a good addition to the article by showing broken records, is somewhat long and intrusive to the text on the opposite side of the page. I'm wondering if there's any way to easily collapse this. Thanks Thechased (talk) 05:47, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * added the code. Feel free to undo, if you were thinking abot something else. -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 18:25, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Roger Lupton
One last thing please!!! - I am too scared to change an incorrect word in the box with the picture - the word should be cleric - NOT ceric. Thanks 101.189.56.6 (talk) 05:58, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't be scared and just do it. Finnusertop (talk &#124; guestbook &#124; contribs) 06:16, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Scared IP user: there is essentially nothing you can do to an article which will break it permanently. If you do something wrong, you can call up its history, and go back to before your change. So don't be worried about making mistakes: we've all done it! --ColinFine (talk) 11:24, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

A page in wikipedia was having wrong information
Hi ,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraiyar

The above mentioned page was having was wrong information,

Its was edited ( last modified ) on 3 October 2015, at 19:17.

May I know who is the person Modified this page.

And The introduction of  the subject ( Parayar Caste People ) was very Insulting

and It shows the motto of the editor was to Defame the ethnic People of the state of Tamil Nadu

Please restore the page which I saw on 2010 -2012 for the same subject (Paraiyar).

Thanks and Regards --117.215.89.247 (talk) 08:43, 13 December 2015 (UTC) Vignesh
 * Hello, Vignesh. Can find the article's edit history here: . Wikipeda writes what is said in reliable sources and does not censor itself in order to avoid content that could be seen as insulting. On the other hand, to insult is never the goal; the goal is to summarize reliable sources. If you want to change something or restore content, I suggest you raise this issue on the article's talk page here: Talk:Paraiyar. Finnusertop (talk &#124; guestbook &#124; contribs) 08:53, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Undeletion
Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by -ahab- (talk • contribs) 12:12, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not clear what you're asking. Though you might find what you're looking for at WP:UNDELETE. Dismas |(talk) 15:00, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Looks like it's in regards to the Speedy Deletion template for his user page he's asking about. --Giooo95 (talk) 21:46, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Change the name of an article
I made one of my first entries on the English Wikipedia by adding the page: Critical mass (music group) and now I'm asking myself if I should change the name from Critical mass into Critical Mass. All other articles concerning Critical Mass are written like that, wich made me wonder if I did it wrong writing it this way. So first: should I? Second: how? Oxygene7-13 (talk) 14:00, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The title should probably be Critical Mass (Dutch band). You can change it by clicking on the tab that says "move" at the top of the page.  In the second field, enter the name you want.  The usual disambiguation is (band), but there's already an American and Canadian band, so you would further disambiguate it against them by including the nationality.  The current disambiguation, "music group", doesn't properly disambiguate it against the other two bands, who are also music groups.  If you want, I can rename it for you. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:45, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Just a quick note, the menu actually says "More" and when you mouse over it, then it says "Move". Dismas |(talk) 14:58, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, in the default [//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?useskin=vector Vector] skin. [//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?useskin=monobook MonoBook] has a "move" tab. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:41, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Book Creation
Hello, I have read that the PDF rendering aspect of this feature is messed up along with the whole system. I really value Wikipedia's "Create a Book" option and have made some as well as been able to luckily PDF export some. I have a couple questions about this feature: is Wikipedia ever going to get the system back up and running? It's such a great feature, I'm bummed that it's broken. And since the "Create a Book" PDF rendering system is broken, is there any other way I can use other options Wikipedia has to get the desired PDF compilation? Thank you for your time.Eclecticelle (talk) 15:05, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * , this might be a question for WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  23:11, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Question about removing a notice
Hey, at the top of one of my pages, almost three years ago Wikipedia posted a "needs more citations" notice at the top of one of the pages I manage. It has all the citations it needs now, but that notice is still there. How do I get that removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpirner (talk • contribs) 17:00, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello, . These are templates that need to be removed manually. If you think you have resolved the issue, look for the appropriate template at the top of the article when editing wikitext. In this case, it probably looks like: . Just remove that line and save the edit. Finnusertop (talk &#124; guestbook &#124; contribs) 17:09, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Wikipedia didn't post that notice: some editor did (and you can find out who by looking at the history of the article). Please note that there are no "pages that you manage", or that I manage, or that anybody else manages: see WP:OWN. --ColinFine (talk) 21:08, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

A general question please
Wherever I am situated, when I am on my ipod and phone, the most recent wikipedia edits for all pages do not show up. On laptop, when I am at home and elsewhere, the most recent Wikipedia edits ARE shown. Any way to fix this? Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 21:56, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by the most recent changes. Do you mean on your watchlist, or just in the page history? Rubbish computer (Merry Christmas!: ...And a Happy New Year!) 00:18, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * See Help_desk below.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  02:33, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

How do new users create a user profile page?
What content can you add to your user page? What should you add to the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowboycowboy91 (talk • contribs) 22:51, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * See User pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:01, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It's up to you what you put there, within the restraints of our policies and guidelines. Common things to include are babel to indicate what language you understand, userboxes to describe your interests and the WikiProjects that you have joined, and maybe a little about yourself.  Or maybe you could just put up a picture of a cowboy.  I like to keep my user page simple, but there are people who have very fancy ones.  Try clicking on random user pages to see what people have done. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:46, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * , There is a tip-of-the-day for that: Tip of the day/April 17. I started mine with: "Hello". Cheers!  00:15, 14 December 2015 (UTC)