Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 December 18

= December 18 =

Ivo Ringe-Site
Hi, there...

i translated the german Ivo Ringe-Site, which i also wrote and had it put into the english-wikipedia as he is having exhibitions in America often - so now i found this info on the discussion-site and don't know, what is asked from me and what i can do to get this away: "This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard. If you are connected to one of the subjects of this article and need help, please see this page." - i did not write anything personal neither on his german nor on the english-site, all is documented with links to articles etc. - so, what is wrong??? --Gyanda (talk) 23:27, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Where did you see that notice/discussion? I checked the page Ivo Ringe and saw no such notice and I didn't see a page for Ivo Ringe-Site. Tiggerjay (talk) 23:42, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It's on Talk:Ivo Ringe, as a result of the WikiProject Biography tag. --David Biddulph (talk) 23:48, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * @ I guess I looked right past that since it wasn't a current notice... Tiggerjay (talk) 00:36, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * @ That notice was a standard notice that was on the talk page since 2012. Nothing specific you need to be concern with in the sense that you did not do anything wrong. But rather it is a general notice/caution to editors to comply with policies regarding biographies of living persons. Tiggerjay (talk) 00:36, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all your answers. Unfortunately if you go to the Libary of Congress then there is the entrance that this site is under "editor review" and this may sound weird to people looking him up? Can we get this text erased somehow??? Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 12:00, 18 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't know what you mean by "go to the Library of Congress", but I'm guessing that you mean somewhere which reuses material from Wikipedia (which is perfectly permissible as long as it gives proper attribution) but is displaying an old version of the article with a maintenance tag at the top (there isn't one currently on Ivo Ringe). If this is the case, you will need to ask whoever it is mirrorring the information to update it, as it is outside Wikipedia's control. --ColinFine (talk) 18:23, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you ColinFine!!! --Gyanda (talk) 19:52, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Roof tent
I notice recently that the IP addresses associated with editing the Roof tent wiki page come from Southport in QLD, which also happens to be where Gordigear (a roof top tent importer) are located.

I don't feel it is appropriate that they continue to edit the article and use their image, effectively advertising their tent.

Can their IP addresses be blocked or the article locked for only registered users to be able to edit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uneekwahn (talk • contribs) 06:15, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Given that there are multiple IPs, requesting semi-protection, which I just did, is more likely to be effective than blocking multiple disruptive IPs. Read the protection policy for more information on semi-protection, which does lock the article for only autoconfirmed editor.  Robert McClenon (talk) 06:20, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The page has been protected, but it appears you may also be biased in this article. I have gone and readded BOTH images since that is how it has been between 2009-2015. Only recently has there been dispute over which single image should be used. If someone disagrees with having both, then I would propose we use neither, and/or find a single image from a different company all together. Tiggerjay (talk) 22:34, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

omission in artical
in your artical about alphonse lemerre in here it mentions who he published victor hugo was not mentioned i know he published ugo because i have a copy of notre dame de paris french version with him named as such — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.172.214 (talk) 06:18, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Go to the article talk page, Talk: Alphonse Lemerre, with your concerns. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:27, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Creating a new wikipedia page + adding a new link
Hi,

How can I create a wikipedia page for my company, Adperium.com. I'd also like to know more about how I can add (external) links without given a warning. I obviously won't spam or anything, but I think our link is suitable for some spots on Wikipedia.

Looking forward to hearing from you,

Joost Fromberg — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoostFromberg (talk • contribs) 09:19, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest you read the following carefully before creating an article for your company: My First Article, Conflicts of Interest and Maintaining a Neutral Point of View. After reading these and concluding that your company is notable enough to merit inclusion, please use the Article Wizard to draft your article. For external links, please see this guideline and note our Spam Policy -- samtar whisper 10:05, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Updates to Walgreens Boots Alliance page
Dear editors,

Using my account SourcingABC, I have recommended factual changes on the Walgreens Boots Alliance Talk page, using the function. I initially submitted my suggestions on 13 November but unfortunately no one has come forward to either make the changes themselves or to state that I can make the changes personally.

I believe there is an opportunity to update the Walgreens Boots Alliance page with some useful and significant information as they recently announced their Year-End and Fourth Quarter Results on 28 October 2015. In the interests of transparency I am declaring that I work for Walgreens Boots Alliance.

Please could you advise on the best course of action for updating the page.

Kind regards, SourcingABC (talk) 13:34, 18 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello, . As far as I can see, you've done everything right: this is a volunteer project, and there's no guarantee that anybody will get round to your request. Posting here is a good move, after this time. Looking at your suggestions, I note that, while most of your sources do appear to be independent, some are not: those pieces of information cited only to non-independent sources should probably not be included. I also note that, while you have linked to your references, you have not provided full citations. I would certainly be more likely to consider applying this edit if I didn't have to create the citations myself. Please see Referencing for beginners. --ColinFine (talk) 18:36, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * @ - thank you for going through the proper process, and I'll try to take a look at this specific edit request for you now. Also thank you for disclosing your conflict of interest on your user page! I would suggest you might want to consider changing your username, as the name might imply shared use (See WP:ISU) -- if you feel that applies to you, consider WP:RENAME. Tiggerjay (talk) 18:53, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Also one more thing to consider is that Wikipedia is not a place for self-promotion or having up-to-the moment accurate information. That is, there is no need to have the numbers on Wikipedia updated every time they change at the company. When the gain a store, or add a distribution outlet, or updated their quarterly profits, it add little value. Yes we want current information, but it is not a replacement for your own press releases or corporate website. It for this reason we try to have the dates and references for specific figures so readers know that as of February 2015 the numbers were such-and-such. Close enough to give the casual reader and understanding of the topic. When the numbers fluctuate by a small amount - say 15% or so, we're not necessarily improving the article much by constantly updating those figures. Certainly there is more significance and urgency placed if say the company cut profits in half, or the company tripled in size. With less than 10 viewers per day on that page, it isn't something you should necessarily spent too much of your time or bandwidth on. We do want accurately but we're an encyclopedia. Tiggerjay (talk) 19:20, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Done all edits requested have been completed, see the talk page for more details. Tiggerjay (talk) 19:29, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

TV Show spoilers
Hi, not sure if this is the right place to ask but since when (and more importantly why) did Wikipedia start posting spoilers directly after show tapings, so before the episodes even air on TV? This has already ruined a couple of very good shows for me and I've been hearing similar complaints left & right. Could something be done about this? I mean there isn't really any benefit from updating articles with the spoilers other than 'being the cool site that has all the info first' or something like that. As of now I purposely shy away from Wikipedia because of the fear of encountering more spoilers and I've been advising others to do the same.

If you could just fix that, that'd be great. Thanks

P.S. Nowhere does it include the spoiler warning either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:984:F095:1:E496:2F1:41B2:2A87 (talk) 13:55, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * If you look at WP:SPOILER, there's a section called "Why spoiler warnings are no longer used", which details why articles are not tagged with spoiler warnings. If you are concerned about being spoiled, you might want to avoid the page of the show in question until you watch the episode you don't want to be spoiled about. RickinBaltimore (talk) 13:58, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * This issue also extends well beyond wikipedia, but the internet in general. For example Star Wars was just released yesterday. IF you haven't seen it, it is almost best to avoid the internet. Places like Facebook (and other social media), as well as news outlets and search results are filled with spoilers... My wife will record football games to watch later, and so she has to avoid social media just to avoid ruining a good game that she'll try to watch later that day. Tiggerjay (talk) 18:45, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Citation error
I have been having trouble fixing the citation error in the "Law & Human Behavior" citation on the Ferguson effect page. It would be great if someone could fix it. Everymorning (talk) 14:43, 18 December 2015 (UTC) If you look at the version before my change here the last word was help in blue - if you click that you get taken to the relevant section of Help:CS1 errors which explains the problem. The citation also says the problem was the 14th character, but unfortunately, some characters are invisible, so are more difficult to change. Counting from the = of title = the 14th character (ignoring spaces) was in Ferguson - rather than trying to find the invisible problem, the easy solution is to retype the word - Arjayay (talk) 15:06, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ there was an illegal character in the word Ferguson.

Photo copyright issues
On a webpage for"automatic transmission cutaways" I found a cutaway photo that to use as a webpage backdrop. The photo I want to use is of a 4L80 E transmission. Is there a copyright issue I use this photo. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ I found a transmission cutaway of a 4L80E automatic transmission and want to use the photo for the backdrop on my web page. May I do that without a copyright issue? Do I need to cite or something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:CDD6:960:5143:1E55:D19E:1BB7 (talk) 18:37, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I recommend you look at Image Use Policy to learn more on this topic. Without knowing the specific image you're wanting to use -- that is, the source of the photo, etc., it is difficult to tell if you will have any issues. But in general, if the photo is not one that you've taken yourself, you probably will not be able to use it. Tiggerjay (talk) 18:42, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * But if the IP user means a photo that is on Wikipedia (which I think he does), then it is likely that he will be able to use it - but he needs to check its copyright status. --ColinFine (talk) 21:13, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah yes... If you are referring to this photo, then, you can use it provided you follow the terms listed here. Tiggerjay (talk) 22:05, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The link to the file with its copyright statement is File:Ypsilanti Automotive Heritage Museum May 2015 064 (Hydra-Matic 4L80 transmission).jpg. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:35, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Music Maker (label)
Reference help requested.

Thanks, ConeusL (talk) 19:04, 18 December 2015 (UTC) Yes.

This organization was mislabeled at the start. It is not a true record label. It is a nonprofit organization. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ConeusL (talk • contribs)
 * In what way do you think the article needs to be changed? As you speaking to the title of the article, or some content within the article itself? Tiggerjay (talk) 19:33, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Also do you previously edit under the name ? If so, please see WP:MULTIPLE. Thanks. Tiggerjay (talk) 22:01, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Many articles have an obscured end of first line behind info box on right
I have noticed using a browser on iPad that many articles have a first line whose end is obscured by the information box on the right. I tried editing a few pages by hitting return so the article is a little further down and the text runs up to the box and word wraps so the whole first line can be read. However, I tried this with another page and the first line stayed where it was, so that you could barely see the tops of the letters at the end of the long first line hiding behind the information box on the right. Is there someway to tweak something somewhere so all of the first lines of articles are visible without them hiding behind the information box? Or is there a trick to correct the flaw on a case by case basis so it works every time? Specifically my edit seemed to work for Satyajit Ray, but not for Dianna Duran. Does the article come out better on a desktop computer? Is this a real flaw that is noticed by others? I seem to notice the problem for many articles. I simply miss out on some basic biographical detail, like birthdate or city of origin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.190.119.130 (talk) 19:59, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't have an iPad but the first line always looks fine for me in both the desktop [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dianna_Duran&oldid=695300481] and mobile [//en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dianna_Duran&oldid=695300481] version displayed in Firefox on my desktop computer. The first line wraps before the infobox as it should. I haven't seen other reports so I guess it's only you or some devices. Please don't insert blank lines at the start of articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:45, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Reference error
Hello, I am having an issue with Ref.22 in the article Hands to Myself. I have no idea what's the issue? Some help would be highly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Abi-Maria (talk) 22:22, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * fixed it with this edit. Tiggerjay (talk) 22:36, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, the error message "C1 control character in |title= at position 54" was very accurate. The edit box in my Firefox displayed two boxes there to indicate characters it couldn't render. Even if you don't see anything in the edit box, your delete key may be able to remove unwanted invisible characters. If you press the key in a specific position and no visible character disappears, you probably succeeded. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:40, 18 December 2015 (UTC)