Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 December 9

= December 9 =

Cluebot edit
This edit was not vandalism. Cluebot NG reverted it as possible vandalism. I checked the movie soundtrack. There is indeed a song named "Sinbad The Sailor" :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY62RfeviuE

-- The   Aven gers  02:43, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Please follow the link present in every Cluebot revert: User:ClueBot NG/FalsePositives --Neil N  talk to me 02:47, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Just so you know another Wikiedia article was used as the source for the item. Per WP:USERGENERATED that cannot be used. I don't know if that is why the bot picked up on it but a verifiable WP:SECONDARY source is need to put the info back in. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 03:07, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

.NET
what is MVC.NET — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.34.42.3 (talk) 11:19, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * IP, please see Reference desk/Computing. This help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. Thanks! -- samtar whisper 11:24, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * But ASP.NET MVC may tell what you are looking for. —teb728 t c 11:32, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

captcha
trying to submit a page (in firefox). asks me to enter captcha in a box. there isn't a box?

thx   rob  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robin2437 (talk • contribs) 11:24, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, would you mind providing a link to the page you're trying to submit? -- samtar whisper 11:26, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Language
I want to edit the Afrikaans page of Afrikaanse Hoër Meisieskool Pretoria. How do I go to the Afrikaans page? Only the English page pops up.

Thanks

Colleen Naude — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beryl Colleen Naude (talk • contribs) 11:36, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * @Beryl Colleen Naude: The article is at af:Afrikaanse Hoër Meisieskool. If you go to our (the English Wikipedia's) article on the school, you should see a link on the bottom left of the page (under "languages") that goes there. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:02, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

natalie forbes
hi

samtar replied, but i couldn't see where to reply to him.

i tried to submit a page. it asked me to type the captcha in the box. in firefox, there isn't a box?

i've tried before with this page and someone said the subject wasn't well known. she's been in lots of tv and stage shows so i'm mystified?

it's been deleted and the instructions for recovering it don't work.

thx

robin2437

Robin2437 (talk) 11:46, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi . The way to reply to is to look at the second section above here with the heading captcha, and click on the blue word edit next to captcha. That will open an edit window for your reply. —teb728 t c 12:08, 9 December 2015 (UTC)


 * In answer to your second point,, the word "Notable" is used in a special way in Wikipedia. It doesn't mean "well-known", or "famous", or "popular", or "important", or "influential". It means that there is enough material about the subject, by people unconnected with the subject, and published in reliable places, to allow an article to be written about them. Any article should be based almost 100% on what people unconnected with the subject have published about the subject. What they themselves (or their friends, family, agents etc) have said or published is almost irrelevant. It follows that if there is not much published about them by people unconnected with them, then it is impossible to write an acceptable article about them. --ColinFine (talk) 23:56, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Add a website as a source for a wikipedia page?
hi there, a Wikipedia page has been created for my Dad, Robert Bett and it says it will be deleted on the 13th December if no references are added. I have found a few websites that have information regarding Robert Bett but I am unsure if these are good enough as references and also how to even attach references if they are just websites? Please can you help me? The page I am trying to edit is this one... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bett

Thank you SS

Sirensycho (talk) 12:10, 9 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Please see the referencing guide, especially the section on web pages. If you'd like, I can give you a hand if you give me one of the websites you've found -- samtar whisper 13:17, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Adding images and copyright question
Hi. Which forum do I go to for questions about adding images to Wikipedia articles? Thanks. 72.74.202.127 (talk) 14:36, 9 December 2015 (UTC)


 * You'll find plenty of useful links at Images. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:41, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. 72.74.202.127 (talk) 16:03, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Reference error
Dear editors: I tried to fix the reference error on this page: Trent Lakes, but it is eluding me. I've fixed things like this many times before. What am I missing?&mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 15:32, 9 December 2015 (UTC)


 * If you'd followed the a b c links up to where the ref was used, you'd have seen that one of them (the c link) was in a template (but it's well hidden in there), so I renamed the other definition. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:55, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

I want to make a contribution to Wikimedia foundation
I want to make a contribution is Wikimedia foundation the same as wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.255.64 (talk) 16:58, 9 December 2015 (UTC) The Wikimedia Foundation is an American non-profit and charitable organization that runs Wikipedia and our associated "sister" projects - such as Wikimedia Commons, where we store most of our pictures, Wikiquote, where we store extensive lists of quotations, and Wiktionary our on-line dictionary. For more information about Wikimedia Foundation, please see this article - Arjayay (talk) 19:26, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for wanting to contribute - I can understand the confusion - when you click the "Donate" tag near the top of the left hand column, it jumps from Wikipedia to The Wikimedia Foundation.

New Article
Hello. Yesterday I created a page called Smoky Mountain Community Theatre, but now it has been deleted. There are many other theaters on Wikipedia, such as Hillsboro Artists' Regional Theatre. The information was taken from the theatre's website, but it is not copyrighted because I know the person that wrote it and they gave permission to use the information. I was not attempting to advertise the theater, but was merely listing historical data. Please help me understand. Thank you. - Smilehappy1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smilehappy1 (talk • contribs) 18:10, 9 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Have you read the wikilinks in the messages left on your user talk page? Was there something in those links that you didn't understand? --David Biddulph (talk) 19:12, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Even if they (very ill advisedly) did that, an organization's website is almost never written from a neutral point of view, but with an aim of promoting the organization, so the wording would be inappropriate for use in a Wikipedia article. - Arjayay (talk) 19:15, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Anyone can say "I know the person that wrote it and they gave permission to use the information", this is, therefore, not acceptable. The website owners would have to remove the copyright notice from their website and release it under an appropriate free-use license - which would allow anyone to use the information, for any purpose, including changing it, or charging for it.


 * Please understand, that a Wikipedia article should be based nearly 100% on what people unconnected with the subject have published about it. Anything the subject themselves have said, on their website or anywhere else, is almost irrelevant to Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 23:59, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Searching Wikipedia for a word or phrase
In the past I've searched Wikipedia for all occurrences of a particular word or phrase, but when I wanted to find all occurrences of the word "hoodlum" I could only find the article Hoodlum. How do I search for the word in other articles? Edison (talk) 21:51, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Search for "hooldum~"? Or click past the autosuggested dropdown.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:53, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * No, use  with the tilde in front. Help:Searching shows other methods in the first paragraph. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:10, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Subtitles to Wikipedia video.
I have added subtitles to a video, but it has not actually appeared on the video in the article. Why? --Rijavano99 (talk) 22:13, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know about subtitles, but there are several things wrong with that video (at Chandrasekhara's Technique on Microbiology Techniques).
 * It appears to show, not a scientist discussing a microbiological technique, but a ranting demagogue.
 * There is a lot of echo in the soundtrack, probably an electronic artifact.
 * 15 seconds in, it displays the words "Do not reprodeuce ! proporty of Dr Vishnu Bhaji". If this video has not been released with a copyright licence that allows it to be reproduced, it should not be used in Wikipedia.
 * Maproom (talk) 10:32, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The video has now been deleted as a copyright violation, and the article as a hoax. Maproom (talk) 09:47, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * And I blocked the account after they denied the hoax in the face of clear evidence, and continued uploading copyvio videos to Commons and linking to them. Fences  &amp;  Windows  01:08, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Mullum Malarum
There are some citations containing "Check |archiveurl= value" problems. I can't seem to find the problems when looking through edit mode. Snuggums (talk / edits) 22:26, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * a few  were missing that was all. Sam Sailor Talk! 22:51, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * have a look at User:Meteor sandwich yum/Tidy citations, it really makes life a lot easier in a situation like the above. Suddenly you can actually see where you are and what you are dealing with. Best, Sam Sailor Talk! 22:54, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the help and that link. I have now installed it. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:02, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

How Do I change a Company Logo?
I want to change an incorrect logo which has been assigned to our business. I am an authorised member of the business to make this change. How do I do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.62.151.150 (talk) 23:27, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Please post a link to the page displaying the incorrect logo and a link to the correct logo. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:29, 9 December 2015 (UTC)