Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 July 16

= July 16 =

Removal of reference to business
Please remove all reference to Birds Bees Trees And Things from Wiki Australia. The owner of the business (husband) has passed away. The business is no longer active — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.15.208.23 (talk) 01:17, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * This is the encyclopedia Wikipedia. We are not associated with Wiki Australia at http://www.wikiaustralia.com/. A wiki is just a type of website. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:33, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Link to anchor not working
Greetings, keepers of the eternal flame!

I've been trying to make a sort of Table of Contents for Template:Convert/list of units by adding anchors and linking to them in a divbox. See also Talk:Convert. However, the #Volume link doesn't appear to work, while all the others do. Any ideas? Or even how to make it look like a proper TOC? I thought of putting an anchor like id=Area in the individual tables such as Template:convert/list of units/area/short list but I can't see how that could be linked to, within the Convert/list of units page itself. Cheers, >MinorProphet (talk) 02:33, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Volume anchor fixed by [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Convert/list_of_units/torque/short_list&diff=671649957&oldid=636177171]. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:09, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Brilliant, thank you very much for your swift response. >MinorProphet (talk) 06:32, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

How I can Edit Wikipeida Page
Hello Team

I was trying to edit IT magazine in India .I want to add VARINDIA magazine but de to some reason I am suspended User. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.51.133.132 (talk) 06:58, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you have an account on wikipedia? - Supdiop ( Talk 🔹 Contribs ) 07:04, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Create a Article for Neeraj Kumar Gupta
Dear Team,

I am not creating a article on Wikipedia created two article's on Wikipedia but all article will be deleted so please help me create a article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artistneeraj (talk • contribs) 07:28, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * You have been given a number of useful links on your user talk page. If you have any specific questions after reading those, please ask. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:42, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

support in developing wiki page
i just submitted a wiki page and i am not sure whether it meets the standards or not kindly help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gopikrishnar (talk • contribs) 09:05, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello - I fixed a few minor technical issues in Ikix and left you some links to additional information on your talkpage. Assuming the company is notable (see WP:GNG for information), the article looks like a good start. But some of its content, especially in the "History" section, is not written in a formal encyclopedic voice (see WP:NPOV, WP:TONE and MOS:SURNAME) and should be rewritten. Try to remove everything, that is not a neutral, verifiable fact, and summarize the company's history from a completely uninvolved point of view. Personal experiences like the flight journey and reflections like "Often, what is conceived ..." don't belong in the article. GermanJoe (talk) 10:02, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The article has now been deleted, as "(G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)". It might have been better if you had created it as a draft rather than as an article, so as to give yourself a chance of getting it into an acceptable state before making it into an article. Maproom (talk) 12:45, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

"I Have a Dream" formatting issue
Re: Martin Luther King, Jr. (scroll down)

In my maximized Firefox window, part of the speech text overruns the box. This is pretty tacky presentation, especially for something that important. Does anyone else see this? Any solution? Should this go to WP:VPT instead? &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  11:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

After tried a few things (thank you) that didn't work, I moved the  box down so it is no longer adjacent to the text. This prevents the overrun, but it's not an ideal solution (and it sidesteps the technical issue). Other ideas welcome. For convenience, the "before" revision is here. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  14:02, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * if you could make a screenshot and upload that to phabricator, that would be very helpful. Also what exact version of Firefox are you using ? —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 16:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Firefox 39.0. Screenshot &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  17:04, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * This is caused by the  declaration on line 9 of MediaWiki:Common.css, which was added to "avoid collision of background with floating elements", whatever that means. Alakzi (talk) 17:17, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * And, by the way, Alakzi fixed the article (thank you) in this edit, converting the blockquote to a /poem combination. The blockquote issue remains, although obviously less important to me now. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  17:24, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blockquote is often used with a background color, and without overflow:hidden, that background will stretch the entire width of the page (stretching behind infoboxes and images), which is usually not what you want. Actually this problem that you are seeing is possible in many forms, and is primarily caused by stacking floating elements of differing width on top of eachother and 'restarting' the page flow with a header, a left floating element, or in this case something with overflow:hidden. BTW, i don't know who ever came up with the poem hack, but it's terrible and should be forbidden. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 20:17, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I've only used  to fix the paragraph markup; it is unrelated to the issue at hand. Alakzi (talk) 23:44, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't begin to understand that, but I'll take from this that blockquote should be avoided, and converted to when seen, if that yields similar results, even where no problem is currently apparent to me. &#8213; Mandruss   &#9742;  02:26, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * To clarify, what fixed was the inline  rule;   would've had the same effect. Quote and  are both irrelevant. Alakzi (talk) 10:15, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Verified by sandboxing. Nevertheless, does eliminate the problem, is easier to remember, and avoids the need to code CSS in articles. I wouldn't call that irrelevant, exactly. &#8213; Mandruss   &#9742;  10:48, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Quote on its own does not eliminate the problem; I'd applied the same styling rule to it. Alakzi (talk) 10:56, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * So you did. In that case, this sucks. If this is the best we can do, I'll take it to VPT. The average editor should not have to code CSS to make layout work. It can be used to improve things such as some tables, but things shouldn't be broken without it. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  10:59, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

I have seen the clearest pictures imaginable of Pluto, literally yesterday, as the USA stormed the furthest reaches of humanly imaginable space. And yet: the difficulties which the unimaginably prescient words of one man have yet to undergo, in order to be even more clearly heard, multiply beyond all measure. I too have a dream, and it not unlike Dr. King's, since his was the very first voice which awoke me from my slumber of centuries. I call myself fortunate to have read his immortal words once again; to have attempted to format them for all the world to read has been no less than a revelation. But oh dear, Jimmy Wales: why is it still so unimaginably difficult? It should be as easy as opening the fridge door to get another beer out. Instead, we present you with THIS HORRENDOUS MESS. >MinorProphet (talk) 23:55, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

I wish to apologize profoundly for my intemperate and pointless outburst. I'll crawl back under my stone again. >MinorProphet (talk) 09:35, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I expect we all feel like that at times. In this case, I blame browser implementers who do not follow the specified standards; or maybe the authors of those standards, who write specifications which it would be unreasonable to follow. Maproom (talk) 09:41, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought it was eloquent. "...furthest reaches of humanly imaginable space." Dr. King would be proud. ;) &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  09:54, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Birdy Incorrect Age
Hi there,

I just looked on the wiki page for Birdy (the singer) - her age of winning open Mick UK says 250 - which is not correct.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.41.29.87 (talk) 12:50, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Simply recent vandalism, which I have now reverted. Thank you for letting us know. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:54, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

How do I view category of images as gallery
Hello, please instruct me how to look at this page as a gallery of thumbnails or what to type in a sandbox to transpose it that way Category:Images with watermarks, ~  R . T . G  13:11, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You could preview the category page without  in the source. I don't know whether there is way to see more than the first 200. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:11, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Apparently you don't even need to remove  when previewing, but it's still limited to the first 200. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:14, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

I don't see my article
I don't see that my article was published.

Help? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lelisek/sandbox

Lelisek (talk) 16:04, 16 July 2015 (UTC) elise


 * Your article hasn't been published. User:Lelisek/sandbox is a userspace draft. I have added a template to it, & that will give you the ability to submit it for review when you feel that it is fit to be published.  - David Biddulph (talk) 16:17, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Upload new logo to page
Our logo has changed and we need the new logo to be updated on our company page.

How do we do this?

I tried the file upload wizard but it won't allow me to upload the logo — Preceding unsigned comment added by GildanWeb (talk • contribs) 16:21, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Only autoconfirmed users (accounts with 4 edits that are >10 days old) can upload images. You can request for an image to be uploaded at Files for upload. As an aside, if you are working on behalf of a company you should take a look at Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest guidelines. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 16:25, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Please also see the message on your user talk page about your user name, which is in violation of our username policy.--ukexpat (talk) 16:36, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Katalin Zamiar
The article about Katalin Zamiar has been turned into an advertisement by a user who uses the name KatalinOgren, which coincidentally is also the new name of Katalin Zamiar (she probably got married). The article may need to be renamed and KatalinOgren's edits have to be reverted or wikified. Please help, I cannot do it. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 17:24, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I reverted the article to the last version before the COI edits. (You could have done it, by the way, but asking here for help was reasonable.)  Why do you think that the article should be renamed?  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:55, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I wasn't sure if it needed to be renamed. I've read WP:COMMONNAME and now I think that Katalin Zamiar is probably the best name. Thanks for your help! The Quixotic Potato (talk) 18:28, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Talk page for Meryl Streep
Hello, I want to add a question to the talk page for the Meryl Streep page. How do I do this?rich (talk) 17:28, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Just the same as you did here. Go to Talk:Meryl Streep, & click on "New section". - David Biddulph (talk) 17:36, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Talk pages have a tab saying "New section" but we don't actually know which posts here used it. The box at top of the help desk has a big link saying "Click here to ask a new question about how to use or edit Wikipedia". PrimeHunter (talk)

Canchupati Venkatrao Venkaswami Rao
The article Canchupati Venkatrao Venkaswami Rao is in a terrible state. Please help, I cannot do it. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 17:53, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * You said, again, as above, "Please help, I cannot do it." What do you mean by that?  This is the encyclopedia anyone can edit.  If you mean that it is obvious that the article is in terrible shape, but that it requires more effort than you are able to apply, or that you don't know what needs to be done, you have various options.  First, you can tag the article.  Arbitrary or excessive tagging is discouraged, but this is a clear case where tagging does seem appropriate.  Second, you can seek help at a WikiProject.  I would suggest WP:WikiProject India and WP:WikiProject Hinduism (although the latter is not as active as in the past).  Those are things that you can do in order to request help.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:03, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I sympathise with the Potato. What that article needs is deletion. And choosing and applying the appropriate deletion tag is quite a demanding task for a user with less than a month's experience. Maproom (talk) 18:57, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe a weird reason but my girlfriend didnt allow it because I was moaning about it. I know nothing about yoga and gurus and stuff like that. I am good at doing typofixes, but I suck at writing articles and fixing articles made by other people. Sometimes when I am fixing typos I see things that I know should be changed, but I don't really know how. On a related note, maybe someone should take a look at this and that and that. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 18:08, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I see that you work only on articles which include the misplaced words "bold text", and remove them. This is commendable, and will give you some good experience of editing. But it has certainly led you into some murky corners of Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 19:30, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I have nominated the article for deletion. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:39, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It is true that the multiple steps of choosing and applying the deletion tags are difficult for inexperienced editors. That is what Twinkle is for.  However, inexperienced editors may not have been introduced to Twinkle.  Also, any editor using a mobile device (other than a full-sized laptop, which is not always counted as a mobile device) may have difficulty in using Twinkle.  Robert McClenon (talk) 21:26, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Infobox question
Dear all, please anyone can help me? I want to create or translate an infobox, how can I ? please learn me. -- (Deioces) ,Talk 15:58, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Please be more specific. Is it about making an infobox on an article in the English Wikipedia? Help:Infobox may be of help but we can say more if we know about what you want. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:13, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre
Hi there - First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre has been renamed to Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Midwest_Bank_Amphitheatre — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.132.171.177 (talk) 19:03, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.132.171.177 (talk) 19:02, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Do you have a source for that? The venue's website does not reflect the new name - http://www.firstmidwestbankamphitheatre.net -- ukexpat (talk) 19:33, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * This seems to be a recent event, http://www.livenation.com/venues/14482/hollywood-casino-amphitheatre-chicago-il shows the new name, but still has the old name in a number of places (for example on their "venue details" page). But I'm not 100% sure if this is sufficiently sourced (yet) for a move.  Rwessel (talk) 19:53, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * After finding a cite for the name change in the Chicago Tribune, I've gone ahead and moved the page to Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre - Chicago, IL, and I've also changed the name of the existing St. Louis venue to Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre - St. Louis, MO and turned the old St. Louis entry at Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre into a dab. Rwessel (talk) 06:45, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Definition of abbreviation
Hello,

I'm doing genealogy research and I've found an abbreviation that I can't decipher:

Here is the example: Henry V, Holy Roman Emperor m. 1114; dec. 1125 Geoffrey V, Count of Anjou m. 1128; dec. 1151

What does dec. stand for?

Thank you for the help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.70.150.113 (talk) 19:38, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That would be deceased. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:41, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Originally decessit - Latin for "(s)he died".--ukexpat (talk) 19:48, 16 July 2015 (UTC)