Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 July 19

= July 19 =

WMF Labs directory
Is there any page that lists and describes all active en:wp tools that are hosted at WMFLabs? The front page, https://tools.wmflabs.org, has a complete list of hosted tools, but many of them aren't for en:wp (Commons, Wikidata, Wikipedias in other languages, etc.), and most tools don't have descriptions. I didn't find anything of the sort at Wikimedia Labs. Nyttend (talk) 02:36, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure such a thing exists, but I agree it would be really useful if someone would create this! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:48, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * There is also Tools directory. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 21:57, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Tool to identify number of edits to a page by user
I recall an outside tool that ranked editors to an article space page by total number of edits each. I now can't find it. It was useful to find collaborators. Does anyone know what I'm on about? Dontreadalone (talk) 04:49, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The one tool I know of isn't currently working. --Neil N  talk to me 04:54, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * This one works for me. Just enter the title in the "Article" box and click Submit. Deor (talk) 12:52, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

XFD using Twinkle
I recently attempted to nominate Robin Bladimir for deletion using Twinkle. It reported "invalid token" and told me to refresh the page to try again. Having refreshed the page, a nomination for deletion tag appeared with a red link to the article's entry to XFD. Should this be fixed manually by directly creating an entry on the red link? Basically, Twinkle did half of the job. The rest is somehow not completed. I copied my reason for deletion already. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 13:48, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. I was in the course of finishing your nom manually when another editor nominated it separately, so you may add your reason as a !vote, . DES (talk) 14:09, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I see that it is already tagged for speedy deletion. I shall contribute to the AfD discussion anyway. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 14:13, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The speedy deletion tag has been removed. The AFD is still in progress.  (In my own opinion, sometimes speedy deletion tags are misused for articles that should be either proposed for deletion or nominated for deletion, but that is only my opinion.)  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:32, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

No log entry
The page Template:Kauai O'Donoghue was deleted, so why is there no deletion log entry for this page? GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 15:53, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Apparently it was oversighted (aka suppressed), so neither editors nor most admins have access to the deleted content. In such cases there is no log entry, because the reason itself is often confidential. See the link for the cases in which this might apply. DES (talk)

How to link article to portals
Dear Wikipedia helpdesk, I am new to Wikipedia and preparing an article on Social Theology for submission. I would like to link to the nontheism, atheism, anthropology and sociology portals.

Please could you tell me how to make the link.

Thanks Hugh Hugh gordon rock (talk) 16:10, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Are there portals for all those things specifically? Anyway, you would put  at the bottom of the article.  Normally these go into a "See also" section.  Dismas |(talk) 16:22, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

To quote the lede, Social Theology is a new name which aims to bring together and develop as a school of thought thinkers with a particular understanding of religion... represented by a number of sociologists and theologians but has remained latent and has not previously benefited from a name. In other words: you're creating a neologism, and doing original research and synthesis to define it. That is simply not what we do here. We are an encyclopedia, a secondary and tertiary source condensing information from secondary, tertiary, sometimes even quaternary sources. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  21:22, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Orangemike, Hugh gordon rock - A quick Google shows that it is not such a new term, several books and other sources use the phrase. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:07, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


 * OK; but the article must not go beyond what those books and other sources have said about it: not even comparing them or drawing conclusion from them. --ColinFine (talk) 10:41, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

saving a draft.
I started an article for the new feature Film "Caesar and Otto's Paranormal Halloween". I'm a first time guy and I didn't do it right. Now I'm contesting having my second version deleted. How do i go about saving it as a draft? So i can finish it then submit again. SPAYDEDDOG (talk) 22:02, 19 July 2015 (UTC)SPAYDEDDOG


 * See Drafts - creating it there rather than in article space will make immediate deletion less likely. You should note however that any article will need to cite third-party published sources to demonstrate it meets our notability guidelines. Creating a draft without such sources is a waste of your time and ours - we aren't here to provide free publicity for upcoming films. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:08, 19 July 2015 (UTC)