Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 July 21

= July 21 =

Referencing errors on Hip dysplasia (canine)
Reference help requested.

I am having trouble correctly referencing this section. References are included, but not in the correct format. Please help...

Thanks, 165.228.93.153 (talk) 00:23, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The pmid= parameter mut have a strictly numeric value, the identifying number from the PubMed database. I have removed the invalid pmid. DES (talk) 00:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

What happened to my page?
I can't find my wikipedia page that I recently created for the John C. Wells Planetarium, and so I checked the deletion log and couldn't locate it. I put the title in correctly and even went through the history searching: still nothing. I then saw that it could have been redirected to another existing title, which I believe is the new section under the James Madison University Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Madison_University#John_C._Wells_Planetarium. The information that was put under this section was sparse and poorly written, barely using any of the content from my original page. I edited what I could, however I don't believe our content was appropriately utilized or showcased. Is it possible to contend this redirection, or to track down my original page? Katie at John C. Wells Planetarium (talk) 02:45, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Please see Articles for deletion/John C. Wells Planetarium. That discussion was opened on 29 June, as the notification on your talk page says. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 02:49, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Please pay particular attention to the comments about you writing such things as "our telescopes". Wikipedia is an encyclopedia which is unaffiliated with your planetarium and should keep a neutral point of view when we have an article about anything.  We are not here to support or advertise the planetarium.  Dismas |(talk) 03:24, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * You can find the old revisions by clicking John C. Wells Planetarium, click "Redirected from John C. Wells Planetarium" at top of the page and then click the "View history" tab. You could also reach the page history by clicking "Contributions" at top of any page to see all your edits and then click the "hist" link at an edit to the page, or a time stamp to go directly to a revision. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:01, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Imtiaz Dharker
imtiaz Mobarik or Darker attended hutchesons Girls Grammar school in Glasgow from 1961 to 1968 from the age of 11. I was in her class at school and she is not 61. Please phone the school in Glasgow to check — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.171.39 (talk) 05:55, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * You may well be correct, but Wikipedia reports only what is published elsewhere. It is not unusual for parents of pupils born outside the UK to mis-represent their children's true age, but I think you would have known if she was four years younger than her classmates.  I'll put a "citation needed" on the birth date.  Perhaps someone can discover the truth published elsewhere?    D b f i r s   06:15, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

unproductive contribs


Can somebody check & fix the Department directory, this guy has mucked it around adding his email/facebook crapola. tks 92.24.99.161 (talk) 10:02, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I've reverted his edits and given him a warning. It looks as if he's been uploading self-promotional material, so an admin may need to take action. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:16, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Nominated the uploaded files for deletion too, thanks for pointing this out. GermanJoe (talk) 12:54, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Wild animal photos
I have some animal photos (a fly and a bird) which I took during my last trip to the beach. Are they of interest to Wikipedia or Wikimedia?Lbertolotti (talk) 13:42, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Probably. Please upload them to Commons so that they are available to all the Wikimedia projects. Please also be as specific as you can identifying the subject and the location where photo was taken.--ukexpat (talk) 15:20, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * @Lbertolotti if you are uncertain about the species the Science Reference Desk can help to identify them. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:20, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Inciter article rejected
Hi, my article was rejected today. It says it's been copied from web page www.inciter1.com. The whole biography stands on that website because i wrote it. How can we manage to set wikipedia article about inciter?

Thank you in advance.

All the best, Igor Cecelja — Preceding unsigned comment added by Igorcecelja (talk • contribs) 13:59, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Please see Donating copyrighted materials for information on reusing content on Wikipedia that you have previously published elsewhere. Yunshui 雲 水 14:34, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The message on your user talk page from November 2013 included a link to Copying text from other sources. Looking at your sandbox draft, one thing I notice is that the draft has no references, so please read WP:1st and WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello, . There are several separate issues here. The first one is copyright: with very limited exceptions, all material in Wikipedia is required to be freely usable by anybody for any purpose, so we require that material be either in the public domain, or explicitly released under a suitable Creative Commons licence. If you hold the copyright to the text on that webpage, (which you may or may not do), then you have the right to license it suitably - but you must do so explicitly either on that webpage or by following the procedure in donating copyright materials.
 * Secondly, it is very unlikely that material from a band's website will be appropriate for inclusion in a Wikipedia article anyway. Wikipedia articles are required to be written in a neutral point of view, based on (mostly independent) published source. Phrases like "With strong will and determination to produce a full-length album", which I see on the inciter website, are completely inappropriate for any Wikipedia article.
 * Thirdly, judging by your name, you probably have a conflict of interest in writing about this band at all. You are discouraged from doing so, because you may well find it difficult to write in a suitably neutral way.
 * Fourthly, Wikipedia will not accept any article on the band unless it meets our criteria for notability - basically, that several people who have no connection with the band at all have thought it worth writing at length about it, and had their writing published in reliable sources such as major newspapers. --ColinFine (talk) 14:38, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Created new article ...where is it?
2 weeks ago, I created an article on a brand. When I created the article, I had not yet created an account. So now, I can't go back and see if it's been rejected or if it's in the process of going live on the site. I searched for it and it's not on the site. How can I check on this now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caterina.merenda (talk • contribs) 14:02, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Which brand? Maybe you can find it at [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=&fulltext=Search&profile=all]. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:08, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

How to publish new article?
I have created this article (Draft:Ismail_Marjan) but cannot publish it, can help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oahid (talk • contribs) 14:23, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I've added a submission template to your draft, but before you submit it please read the links on your user talk page, particularly WP:1st. You also need to look at WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:29, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I see that you submitted the draft without reading the links provided, so (not surprisingly) the submission has today been declined. Before submitting it again, please read WP:Referencing for beginners. . - David Biddulph (talk) 10:27, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Larry Tearry
Larry Teary of Wake Forest University was the first black center to play in the NFL..Detroit Lions 1977...your facts are wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:37DA:C3C0:5862:BB51:4096:E59F (talk) 20:01, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * If the facts that you say are incorrect are in an article, post your comment with a reliable source on the article talk page. I can't guess what article you are referring to since Larry Teary doesn't have an article (but is a valid red link if he indeed played in the NFL) and this is your only edit from this address.  Robert McClenon (talk) 20:07, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Most likely Larry Tearry (fixed in header). But we still need 1) a reliable source 2) where exactly in Wikipedia is the current info wrong? GermanJoe (talk) 20:10, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The OP is saying that he played in 1977. The article is saying that he was in the 1978 draft.  Please provide a reliable source at Talk: Larry Tearry.  Also, if you have a reliable source saying that he was the first black NFL center, please provide it on the talk page and that can be added.  Robert McClenon (talk) 21:09, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The article already has four links to pages saying 1978. All other sources I can find also say 1978, for example the Detroit Lions official website at http://www.detroitlions.com/team/history/draft-history/draft-history-1970-1979.html and two other pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

my page is being deleted
why is it being deleted. Is it because the club has an amateur status?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hbafc (talk • contribs) 21:33, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * It is being deleted because it fails to provide evidence from published third-party reliable sources that it meets our notability guidelines. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:40, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Also, because it's an amateur football team, which generally aren't notable enough under Wikipedia's notability guideline for football. Have they played in the FA Cup? If so, then they might be notable enough for an article. If not, then they fail WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:46, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I've deleted the article as a copyright violation of these sites:, , , , . I have also blocked the user as uw-spamublock. --ceradon ( talk •  contribs ) 01:21, 22 July 2015 (UTC)