Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 July 26

= July 26 =

Double redirect
UY4Xe8VM5VYxaQQ (talk) 01:12, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Could you rephrase your question, please? It's unclear in its present form.  General Ization   Talk   01:20, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


 * How to request for getting double redirect fixed quick by robot, BY ROBOT? Thanks you.UY4Xe8VM5VYxaQQ (talk) 01:22, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Since you just repeated, rather than rephrased, your question, I will just have to take a guess:

Your double redirect of Todofukendo to Todōfuken to Prefectures of Japan was already corrected by your subsequent edit to Todofukendo to redirect to Prefectural road. No fix by a robot or otherwise is needed now. See WP:2R for information about bots that, usually within a couple of days, will fix this sort of error.  General Ization  Talk   01:30, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Ancient Egyptian pronunciation
How could I obtain information about the reconstruction possibilities of Ancient Egyptian pronunciation ( e.g based on still living and spoken Afroasiatic languages ) and about the alleged protonostric language theory ??

Sincerely yours ,

István Csiszár ; Hungary


 * WP:RD/L may help. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 09:43, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Wiki markup tool
There used to be a Wiki markup tool so when editing you could strike comments or hide categories/text at a click. I haven't seen this for a while, and I forget if it was a common tool or a script I imported. Does anyone know what I am talking about, and can either direct me to it, or give me some info on what happened to it?  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  10:57, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Please check if "CharInsert, adds a toolbar under the edit window for quickly inserting wiki markup and special characters" is enabled in your preferences under gadgets. -NQ-Alt (talk) 11:22, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I have that ticked.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  17:11, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Just to confirm, you are in fact referring to File:CharInsert-it.PNG right? - NQ (talk)  19:23, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Insert Content
I would like to add the content- Shakarpura Raj, they were one of the foermost indian royal family. please do let me know, on how to add the same.


 * You will need to register for a free account to start a new article, and it's a good idea to read Your first article first Jimfbleak - talk to me?  13:58, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Kaoru Ono
This Redirect points to Kaoru Ohno, which is a japanese writer. But there is a Link from Geometry prize to that redirect. The person which is meant in the article Geometry prize is this and the japanese writer is someone else. Could somebody fix that please? Regards --84.161.161.61 (talk) 11:58, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


 * ✅ Thanks for pointing this out. My Japanese is non-existant, but the 2 persons clearly focus on different areas (Japanese history - geometry). Added (mathematician) to the redlink for now. GermanJoe (talk) 12:19, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Wiki Commons Copyright question
I want to upload a few photos of well known local politicians to the article Liverpool City Region Combined Authority. I find the whole copyright subject extremely complex so it has almost put me off from bothering. Can someone help me to upload them and display the copyright info correctly (in total there are 6 photos taken from third party websites - mostly local government websites). Thankyou. Richie wright1980 (talk) 20:23, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


 * To start with, you can't upload photos to an article – you can upload them to English Wikipedia, or, better, to Wikimedia Commons; and then link to the uploaded versions from an article or even several articles. But that is a detail. More worrying is the copyright question. You say you found the photos on third-party websites. Do these websites include copyright release notices for the photos? Or, if you don't know that, can you give us links to the websites so that someone here can check the copyright status? Maproom (talk) 20:30, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Example file link: thumb|100px|Joe Anderson
 * If a picture has already been uploaded, like the one to the right, you can assume that someone has done the copyright bureaucracy, and you are free to use it in the article. Maproom (talk) 20:37, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I changed the code so that the file is linked above rather than displayed to the right. DES (talk) 21:38, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Hey, thanx guys. The Joe Anderson pic is great, I can use that. Thanx Maproom. One down, five to go. I didn't post any links as I wasn't sure if folks here would be that helpful lol. Here the 5 pics I'd like to use:-

"Sefton Council's Ian Maher" http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/sefton-council-gets-new-leader-9245743

"Councillor Rob Polhill" http://councillors.halton.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=963

"Councillor Andy Moorhead" http://councillors.knowsley.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=173&StyleType=standard&StyleSize=none

"Councillor Barrie Grunewald" http://moderngov.sthelens.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=137

and finally... "Councillor Phil Davies" http://democracy.wirral.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=148

Many Thanks. Richie wright1980 (talk) 21:44, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry,, but none of these are acceptable for use on Wikipedia. The first is from a newspaper site and is clearly marked as copyrighted. The others all seem to be from local government sites, and all have copyright notices at the bottom of the page, and none seem to have a free release anywhere. The last one has on their legal notices page: "ll material on this web site, including text, graphics and photographic images, is copyright Wirral Council unless otherwise stated. Use may be made of this material by educational and not-for-profit organisations without permission from Wirral Council but a credit to the Council would be appreciated. ... We authorise users to view and download material from this site only for your personal, non-commercial use. You must keep the copyright or other notices contained in the original material on anything that you download. ... All other use of this material may only be made with the express written permission of Wirral Council." that is simply not sufficient for a free release.
 * I would suggest emailing the various politicians involved, and asking for a freely released picture, explaining that you wan to post it on Wikipedia. Follow the examples at Requesting copyright permission. I suspect that many if not all of them would be happy to supply such an image. DES (talk) 22:09, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The Ian Maher link is to a news site, and even without the explicit "© Trinity Mirror Merseyside" on the page, *is* subject to copyright, so unless they donate the photo, it's a not yours to upload. If they got the photo from some other party, perhaps the government, it might be usable from there.  As to the other links, those are to UK government websites, and might be available for general us - many things on government websites in the US are, but I don't know enough about UK policy to comment.  You might be able to make a case you upload some of those under the "fair use" doctrine, but only to the English Wikipedia, not Commons.  Rwessel (talk) 22:05, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I have failed to find any copyright release notices on any of the four local government council sites. On the last one, for Wirral, I found the clear statement "All material on this web site, including text, graphics and photographic images, is copyright Wirral Council unless otherwise stated." So I suspect that none of those five images is acceptable for upload to Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 22:08, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * , as you can see at WP:NFCC en-Wikipedia pretty much never accepts a fair use justification for an image of a living person, on the grounds that a free one can always be taken. A significant historic image of a person at a particular moment would be different. DES (talk) 22:14, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help, much appreciated. I'll continue to search. Could you just give me a quick heads up on where to look for copyright notices or copyright release notices. Is there a standard way to check this or is every website different? Just a few clues on what and where to look would help. Richie wright1980 (talk) 22:19, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * each website is different. Copyright notices are often at the bottom. But in the absence of any copyright notice you must still presume that a site is protected by copyright. Unless you find an explicit notice granting CC-BY permission or something like it, which is very rare, it won't be acceptable. Many sites have a "terms and conditions" or "legal notices" or "copyright" page, but there is no standard and each site is different. DES (talk) 22:33, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


 * They are often in small print, and often right at the bottom of the page. At the Wirral page, you can find "Legal Notices" on the last line. If you can find no statement one way or the other, the assumption is that all legal rights are retained by the owner. Maproom (talk) 22:28, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

donations
Dear Wikipedia, I'd like to make a donation to you but not by credit card. I am not from the US and so need a safe and easy way to transfer money. Ina


 * Hello Ina, most volunteers here at the help desk don't work for the WMF (I know, I don't :) ), but thank you for considering a donation. Information about donations can be found at Contact us - Donors and in more detail at wmf:Ways to Give. A mail address for additional questions is provided at the end of the second link, this link also contains a list of countries, and payment methods per country are linked. It's probably best to get that information directly from those official pages. Best regards. GermanJoe (talk) 20:46, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Cite error references no text
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.161.40.32 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 26 July 2015‎

I assume this is about Medrar for contemporary art. DES (talk) 23:49, 26 July 2015 (UTC) I have fixed the cite errors on Medrar for contemporary art, But that article badly needs additional cited sources, and it feels at least a bit promotional. DES (talk) 23:58, 26 July 2015 (UTC)