Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 July 30

= July 30 =

Babajob.com Wikipedia Page
To Whom It May Concern,

The person who originally generated the Wikipedia page is no longer with our company. Our company would like to revamp the entire content on the Wikipedia page. I have created the new content with references but am unable to upload it. Is it possible for me to send you the new content and you upload it for us?

Kind Regards, Anita Tejwani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nityalaxmi (talk • contribs) 09:11, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Title link fixed - X201 (talk) 09:33, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


 * If you are thinking that you can't do so because of your conflict of interest, then you could suggest adding the content on the article's talk page. However, please provide references to support your modifications. Additionally, it is not for the company to decide what the volunteers on Wikipedia do to the page, since the company itself does not own any relevant content. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 10:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, please do not submit a draft since there is an existing article under the same name of the same subject. Thank you. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 10:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Ines van den Born
Hello, Will you please be so kind to remove this information? it is about me and I dont want to be in Wikipedia. Ines van den Born Thanks. InesInes Gloves (talk) 09:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Ines van den Born seems to have been quickly deleted for containing inappropriate promotional content. However, please note that subject of a Wikipedia page does not own it and the subject's consent is not required for a notable page to exist. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 11:23, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

User:Dthomsen8 page help
I redid the beginning of my User:Dthomsen8 page, but the information about me begins way down the page, instead of the beginning. How do I fix this annoying problem?--DThomsen8 (talk) 12:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


 * If you were asking why your user boxes didn't appear at the top of the page, does make it look better? - David Biddulph (talk) 12:42, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * , David.--DThomsen8 (talk) 12:53, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Changing a title to an article
Hi,

I recently started creating my first article. I selected a title name and begun working on the article. I've since decided to change the title of the article. However, I don't seem to be able to do so.

Is there a way of changing the title?? Or must I start a completely new article?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JSRed2015 (talk • contribs) 13:13, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The process is to move the article, but you won't be able to do it yourself because your account is not yet autoconfirmed, but if you ask, someone else can move it for you. You should take note of Naming conventions (companies).  I'm glad to see that you've changed your user name, but you also need to read about conflict of interest.  Much of the content of Draft:Red Recruit Ltd is inappropriate for an encyclopedia, and what does remain needs to be supported by references to published reliable sources independent of the organisation.  If the organisation hasn't received significant mention in such independent reliable sources, it isn't a suitable subject for a Wikipedia article. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:41, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I will look into all of this. A number of areas have already been removed. - JSRed2015 — Preceding undated comment added 15:50, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

oral history, recorded by Imperial War Museum - source selection.
I am beginning to think that some of the oral history that was recorded by the Imperial War Museum would be a useful source for articles such as The March (1945). These are available on-line through the museum's website. Clearly, though, these recordings are primary sources - and it is clear to me that their quality varies (there is one made by Archibald Bentley Beauman who has written a very readable book called "Then a Soldier" which is cited by other historians in their recent works - but, sadly, it seems that when the IWM made its recordings, age had caught up with this old soldier and he had to answer "I don't remember" to many questions.) Using some judgement, especially where several recordings confirm one fact, I would be comfortable with using as a reference.

Two questions:

Is my attitude to these primary sources OK?

How should one cite one of these oral history references?ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 13:16, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Cite interview?--ukexpat (talk) 14:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Mercury (element) revision history wierdness
I went to look at the revision history for Mercury (element) and clicked on the earliest revision which is https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mercury_(element)&oldid=342432610. However when I bring up that revision, and click on the previous diff, it brings up https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mercury_(element)&diff=prev&oldid=342432610 which has the *older* revision in 2010 and the *newer* one in 2001! What's broken?Naraht (talk) 17:16, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I see the same thing, so it's not just your account. StuRat (talk) 17:31, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Is it something to do with the history merge? DuncanHill (talk) 17:45, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The same thing happens with our Iron article. I suspect that it may be due to the fact that these are some of our earliest articles, and at the time they were created, the system didn't keep proper histories. In both articles, the 'first' article in the history is indicated as being a deletion of characters, rather than an addition. Clearly not possible. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:51, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I've seen this happen for many articles which are very very old. I also don't know why that happens. Supdiop ( Talk 🔹 Contribs ) 17:59, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * This problem occurs when early edits are imported from places like the Nostalgia Wikipedia (see User:Graham87/Import). Basically every edit has a revision ID number, which is the number at the end of the URL for a permalink (e.g. 342432610 in the mercury example above). When an edit gets imported, it gets a new revision ID number that is higher than any other edit in the database. The problem is that the previous/next revision links (as well as the system that determines the byte differences in the page history) order the edits by revision ID, not date; this is filed as T4930 in Phabricator, MediaWiki's bug-tracking system. Graham 87 01:42, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. From the number of bugs marked duplicate of this bug, I'm not even sure I'm the 20th or even 200th person to find it. Naraht (talk) 19:20, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

SEARCH COMMUNITY PORTAL BY TOPIC
Please tell me how I can help edit Wiki pages by searching topics I am familiar with. For Example - I travel to Bangladesh often. I have expertise I can lend to pages about Bangladesh, it's people, culture and food. How can I easily find those pages that I might be able to contribute my editing expertise to by topic? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlessingBasket (talk • contribs) 17:48, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Take a look at WikiProject Bangladesh and the articles referenced there.

Re: I do not know how to add to a page correctly
I would like to update the "oldest dog" page. There is a list of the 18 oldest dogs according to Guinness...but it needs to be updated with the information about my dog.

My Rat Terrier...Jake...just passed away last Monday at age 21 years 6 days. This would put him at 12th on the list. He lived from July 21, 1994 until July 27, 2015. We are from Davenport, Iowa, USA.

Guinness has all of Jake's vet records, boarding records, affidavits, photos, etc currently on file as I had submitted him for the "oldest dog-living" record (a new record Guinness was starting)when he was 20. While they were processing the paperwork the experts decided to change the record to age 21. Guinness held all of the materials I had sent to London and I had just updated everything on Jake's 21st birthday. My contact person at Guinness is Victoria Tweedy. She can verify all of this.

Please add my Jake to the list...he deserves to be on it and it would be a lasting tribute to my dear little dog who was my whole world.

Ron "Toto "Johnson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.167.246.108 (talk) 22:40, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello. He might deserve to be on a list published by a secondary reliable source, but only then could Wikipedia include it on one of its list. We are an encyclopedia, which by its very nature (a tertiary source) is never the place to announce new things; we always follow behind other types of sources because of what we are. We include what is already public knowledge out in the world. In sum, this should not and will not be added now, but in the event a reliable source like Guinness publishes material on this, it might be appropriate to add it then, citing to an outside source to verify its addition.Fuhghettaboutit (talk) --23:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Has Guinness finished reviewing and added him to their records? Once it is published and verifiable on their website or books, it can be added. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 22:59, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Map Image Use
Hi, We are publishing a book about adventures around the Pacific Ocean and would like to use a map in the book which is on your page under 'Polynesia'. Are we allowed to do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.254.231.254 (talk) 22:43, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Short answer: Yes, so long as you follow certain rules, which are spelled out at this page about reusing Wikipedia content. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 23:00, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


 * If you're referring to either of the two maps at the very top of the article, then they are both released into the public domain which means that anyone can use them for any purpose without having to get permission from anyone. Dismas |(talk) 23:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)