Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 June 12

= June 12 =

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references missing key
In the article, List of Attorneys General of West Virginia, all my inline citations are properly formatted and now all of a sudden, without any edits, I now have 8 cite errors appearing in the article. Has a change been made to a template that is causing this issue? Any assistance that could be provided would be of the greatest help! -- West Virginian   (talk)  00:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You made extensive additions to the article on 30 May 2015. In displaying the history, the 23 May 2015 version, which is shorter and does not have the text that you added, does not have the cite errors.  The 30 May 2015 version does have the cite errors.  Did it have the cite errors when you edited it on 30 May, or is that new?  If that is new, it is (as you suggest) likely that a template has been changed.  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:56, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * In this edit of yours, a number of citations were added, . At least one fo them uses harvnb inside a named ref tag. As I understand it, harvnb doesn't work properly if used that way. i think this is what is causing the errors. DES (talk) 03:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I made some suggestions on Talk:List of Attorneys General of West Virginia. Please contact me on my talk page if what I wrote seems unclear. >MinorProphet (talk) 20:14, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, ref name="must have no spaces", doesn't work, ref name="must_have_no_spaces" does. That's why I like sfn. >MinorProphet (talk) 20:50, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * , I think you are mistaken there,  doesn't work, but in my experience   works just fine, althoguh I often prefer  . But then i'm not fond of {[tl|sfn}}, harv, and related tools. A matter of style and preference. DES (talk) 01:51, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes,, you are right and I was mistaken (sigh). I have come up against similar broken cites before, and have tried quite hard to resolve this particular problem; but something else beyond my meager tech resources does indeed seem to be broken. I'll crawl back under my stone... >MinorProphet (talk) 04:34, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you to everyone for your assistance and thoughtful suggestions! I think I've found a solution. Please see my fixes at List of Attorneys General of West Virginia. Thanks again! -- West Virginian   (talk)  23:09, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Bazzie Awards
why is there zero information about the Bazzie Awards that bas rutten hands out each year ? it is like an award show for best KO of the year etc.... and I cant request someone write it either — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.210.235.116 (talk) 08:46, 12 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Is there significant, independent coverage from reliable sources about the award? If not, then it's not notable enough. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:31, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

well it is a show that goes on HD net called Inside MMA and have beein running for years so yea would say it is notable — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.210.235.116 (talk) 15:13, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Creation of article
Hi I am banned from creating any BLP according to a January 2015 consensus. Can I make an article about a case, where a man lived with the skeleton of his sister and his dead dogs? His name is Partha De. I dont want to name the article as Partha De to make it a BLP, can I make it "Partha De case" ? The details can be found here and here amongst others. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 09:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Probably not, because this case is probably not notable (especially if the Daily Mail is one of the best sources about it), and if it includes text about living people that would probably violate the "not writing BLPs". Joseph2302 (talk) 11:01, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Disput on the Dulaman page
I have editted wikipedia on and off for years. Recently I editted the Dulaman page - the Irish language work song about seaweed - to add a summary of the story of the lyrics.

This was reverted by user:DissidentAggressor. I thought my edit had made the article better so I engaged this user on his talk page User_talk:DissidentAggressor. I reviewed the policy pages and showed, I believe, that my changes complied with policy.

I went back and editted the page again, as we discussed, and got reverted again and warned [[User_talk:Filceolaire#June_2015

]] I feel biten, twice. There may be problems with my edits but I think they are clearly trying to make the article better. i think they clearly do make the article better.

Can someone else have a look at this as I am feeling furious and don't trust myself to be civil. Is this really the way good faith editors are meant to be treated? Is this the right forum? filceolaire (talk) 10:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The other editor has tried to explain to you why he or she thinks that the additions are against Wikipedia policy. If you read the other editor's comments and still think that your edits will improve the article, read the dispute resolution policy.  Then follow one of the procedures recommended in that policy for a content dispute.  This case might in particular be appropriate for requesting a third opinion.  Robert McClenon (talk) 11:16, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Edit page title to correct. "London chessboxing" should read "London Chessboxing".
Hi

I've just set up a page for London Chessboxing but the page was created with incorrect capitalisation of the work "Chessboxing". Presently it ready "London chessboxing"; however, "London Chessboxing" is a proper noun and both words should be with a capital letter. Please see London Chessboxing website here: http://londonchessboxing.com/ for more information on the brand.

Please can you get this amended or let me know how I can do this as it hasn't been obvious from my searches.

Many thanks

Gavin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gjapaterson (talk • contribs) 13:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The way to do that is to move the page. The move button is in the drop down menu titled "more" up at the top by the history button.  However, the page is currently marked for deletion as being overly promotional. I've added some clean-up templates to show you some of the issues in the article, if you can take a look before its deleted. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 14:44, 12 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Actually London Chessboxing (the capitalisation appears to have been changed) is under deletion review for lack of notability, not for being promotional. The single sentence that's been the whole of the article's content since its creation is a simple statement of fact.  Rojomoke (talk) 17:24, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * , London chessboxing was a different and longer article on the same topic. I tagged it for speedy deletion as promotional, and  deleted it. (It included such text as "London Chessboxing's unique event style provides an electric atmosphere for both the chess and boxing elements whilst still making the chess accessible to a chess novice.".) It was unreferenced. London Chessboxing is tagged as not clearly establishing notability, but is not under any sort of deletion procedure at this time. I now suspect that between the info in the deleted version, and what could be found by a proper search, a reasonable class-C article could be written, but I'm not sure. But since the deleted version was unsourced, it might be better to just start with what can be gleaned from proper sources, if anyone wants to work on London Chessboxing . DES (talk) 18:07, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Is there any way to use HTTP again?
I saw this Wikimedia blog post, and related option in preferences was removed (using http instead of https) too. Is there any way to use HTTP again? --Zyma (talk) 17:52, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * There is a related discussion at Village_pump_(technical). -- GB fan 17:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Victor Kovalenko
You said if the pictures belong to Victor, he holds copyright and therefore they can not be used. Can't he give me permission to use them? He WANTS them used!! Roger — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rogervaughan (talk • contribs) 19:43, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes! As long as he is willing to license them under a free license that allows anyone to use the images for any reason, including their own commercial interests. He cannot be more restrictive than that (i.e. saying that they can be used on Wikipedia only, or for educational/non-commercial use only, etc.) Please see this page regarding how he can send permission to donate his images to Wikipedia. --Nick&#8288;—&#8288;Contact/Contribs 19:52, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I just want to clarify that when we say "the pictures belong to Victor", we mean "Victor took the photographs", not "Victor owns the photographs and/or prints of those photographs and/or film/files from which they are printed". If Victor did not take the photographs, then the copyright belongs to the photographer in 99.98% of cases. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  19:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * See the process for donating: Donating copyrighted materials-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  22:04, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Port of Anchorage
Hello,

I'd like to update the web address to www.portofANC.com and remove all other addresses. I would also like to update the staff.

Can you please help me?

Regards, Lindsey- Port of Anchorage official — Preceding unsigned comment added by PortofANC (talk • contribs) 20:08, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You have already been making edits to Port of Anchorage, although you appear to have a conflict of interest if it is your employer. It would be better to make edit requests at Talk:Port of Anchorage.  Robert McClenon (talk) 20:13, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Links, broken refs, etc. should be fixed now. If you have other suggestions or new sources to improve the article, please post on the article's talkpage. GermanJoe (talk) 17:00, 15 June 2015 (UTC)