Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 March 26

= March 26 =

How can I find a template?
I see a reference in an article that does not contain the information it is citing. Is there a template I can use to alert others to this deficiency? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 00:22, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Perhaps Failed verification? There are others listed at Template:Failed verification. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:27, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * If the material is contentious, eggregiously wrong, or potentially in violation of Wikipedia's WP:BLP policy, it can be temporarily removed and a discussion held on the article talk page to resolve the matter. Just removing text without comment or discussion is likely to get significant blowback, but if you start a discussion on the talk page, explain your reasons for removal, and allow others to find proper sources or find other ways to correct the problem, you can (and in some cases even should) remove such material. Whether or not you do depends on exactly the nature of the uncited material. If it's unlikely to be harmful or damaging or generate controversy, it is safe to just take it with the template noted by David above. If it is contentious, removal and discussion is the better way to go. -- Jayron 32 00:33, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia pages taking longer than 24 hours to update
I noticed recently that some of the pages I edited did not show my edits, in one case it took more than 24 hours for the new information to appear. Is this normal? Ottawahitech (talk) 00:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * You may need to purge your browser's cache. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:28, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * This is likely a problem on your end, with your browser cache. All edits to Wikipedia articles go live as soon as they are saved (excepting, in a few cases, article which have "Pending Changes protection") and if you do not see edits made to an article right away, it's because your browser is showing an older cached version of the article, and your browser's cache settings need to be changed. Bypass your cache describes how to fix this problem. -- Jayron 32 00:29, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * If the problem is not that the new content isn't visible when you go to that page in Wikipedia, but rather that a new page which you have generated doesn't appear immediately in Wikipedia's search, try Help:Searching. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:40, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Title of an article
I just wrote an article about Lake Kapowsin, in Washington State. It looks fine in my sandbox, User:Bpickard/sandbox, but I can't figure out how to give it a title. I tried html, but that doesn't seem to work either.

Do you (or some editor) assign it a title, or am I missing something? I've read all the help material I can find, and it does a good job of describing what titles should be, but says nothing I can find about where they are to be entered or located.Bpickard (talk) 01:04, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Are you aware there's already an article called Kapowsin, Washington? You could just add your stuff to it (although you should do something about those bare urls in your references and there are some parts that, upon a quick perusal, don't look like they should be added). Also, you have a section on the lake, as opposed to the census-designated place, which should go into a separate article. In general, you just type in the title you want in the search box. That gives you a redlink you can click on to create the article. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:13, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, (s)he certainly is aware – see Special:Contributions/Bpickard. --CiaPan (talk) 07:33, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

wrong information on your web
you have the wrong information on your web site about whom built the vista house on mt Spokane in wa state the right information is at the following web site http://www.mountspokane.org/history find the year 1933 under history thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.84.174 (talk) 03:52, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I found Vista House is mentioned at least in two places in Wikipedia:
 * Vista House and
 * Mount Spokane
 * but didn't check which part needs fixing. --CiaPan (talk) 07:31, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * What do we do about conflicting sources?
 * The OP’s source says “1933 Vista House is built by E.O Fieldstad, a local contractor.”
 * Mount Spokane State Park says the Vista House was built in the 1930’s by the CCC. Its ref says it was built in 1933 “designed by Spokane architect Henry C. Bertelsen (1888-1963) and erected by CCC crews.”
 * Mount Spokane Ski and Snowboard Park says the Vista House was built in 1933. Ref 6 also says it was designed by Bertelsen and built by the CCC. (Two other refs are about a then future contract.)
 * Mount Spokane (unsourced) says the Vista House was built in 1934 by the CCC.
 * (Vista House is about a place in Oregon.)
 * —teb728 t c 08:19, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * if one has a reputation for fact checking accuracy and editorial oversight, and the other doesnt, we go by the one with a reputation for accuracy. if multiple reliable sources differ, we note that the reliable sources differ and present the various options . -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  11:04, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Without knowing anything specifically about Vista House, it strikes me that the various references are not necessarily all in conflict.
 * The CCC appears to have been largely staffed by untrained or unskilled personnel who, by themselves, could not have designed or built anything. A plausible scenario would be that the CCC (or some other body) commissioned Bertelsen to design the House, and Fieldstad to supervise the building of it, using CCC personnel as labour.
 * The statement in Vista House that the designer was Edgar Marks Lazarus is clearly in conflict, but the latter's article suggests that there was some dispute over his responsibility (and renumeration), so the attribution to Bertelsen might arise from this.
 * I'm not saying that any of this is actually so: clearly more research is needed, which I'm not in a position to do as my lunch-break is just finishing :-). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 212.95.237.92 (talk) 14:54, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I found a source directly addressing the confusion and have made this edit to clear it up.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:19, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Image upload problem
Almost every time I go to upload a new image, I get "This file might be corrupt, or have the wrong extension". Can someone explain to me why this is happening and how to prevent it? Ashton 29 (talk) 04:06, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Could you provide some details on the image and its filetype? I've seen this error occur when the file's extension does not match the actual filetype of the image, so you may want to look into that (e.g. a gif image saved as image.jpg will return this error when trying to upload). ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 04:47, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The two images in particular that I've had problems uploading are this and this. Ashton 29 (talk) 06:46, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Those both appear to be jpg's. Did you upload them with .jpg extensions? —teb728 t c 08:29, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes and I'm still experiencing the error message. Ashton 29 (talk) 04:16, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Displaying coordinates
I want to show ... lying between 24° 26′ and 25° 40′ N and 78° 26′ and 79° 21′ E in the body of an article. Would it be best to use Coord, some other template or just unlinked text? The context is the official boundaries of a former princely state within British India. (The coordinates can be averaged/centred for display at the top of the article - I've got no problem doing that bit!) Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 11:03, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Just wondering if someone at wp:WikiProject Geographical coordinates can help? Ottawahitech (talk) 13:53, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * For the text in green, I'd just leave it as unlinked text. As you say, you can use the coord template (with an appropriate "dim" parameter and "display=title") at the bottom of the article to indicate a point near the center of the region that will display at the top of the article. Deor (talk) 14:02, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Late or never notifications
I have noticed this before, but now I can actually see that I either receive wp:notifications hours after they were posted (in this case on my talk page) or not at all (or at least not within close to 24 hours - in this case I was mentioned elsewhere). Is there a general problem of delays on wikipedia or is it just a problem with notifications? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 13:49, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * It works for me. Do you receive notifications by email or at top of web pages here at en.wikipedia.org? It can be set at Special:Preferences. What does the "Send me" field say there? Emails may arrive with a delay for various reasons. If it's here then are you sure this isn't an issue of posts being signed in UTC and you having another time zone and incorrectly thinking the posts are old? Can you link to a diff and say when you received the notitification in which time zone, or whether you didn't receive a notification? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:43, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I normally receive my notification at top of web pages. The recent notification that was not delivered was posted on March 25 here with a u template. I received 6 other notifications on March 25. Ottawahitech (talk)


 * That edit replaced the whole page and confused the diff software. It may have run afoul of one or more conditions at mw:Manual:Echo. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:40, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Skip to table of contents? Skins?
I find it difficult to navigate this page because when I come here I can only see one option at the top of the page (Skip to bottom). I have been told that others see different links, such as Top of page, TOC, Today's posts, and Bottom of page. Is it a matter of using different wiki-skins and if so, what are skins. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 14:13, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Skins are the first section at Special:Preferences, but I didn't think that any of them disabled the TOC; others may know better. Are you by any chance being redirected to the mobile view rather than the desktop? There should be a switch between those at the foot of the page. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:20, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * In Firefox I see a box fixed in the bottom left corner of the help desk in all skins. It's made by code at the end of Help desk/Header (the comment incorrectly says it's to the right):

<div id="HD-pageNavBox" class="nowrap mw-collapsible mw-uncollapsed mw-collapsible-content pageNavBox" style="position: fixed; left: 10px; bottom: 10px; display: block; width: 150px; z-index: 999; overflow: hidden; border: 1px solid
 * Top of page
 * Table of Contents
 * #|Today's posts
 * Bottom of page
 * In the Vector and MonoBook skins the links mix with the language links for me and don't work until I scroll down. My post adds the box to this section by removing the positional code. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:32, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Top of page
 * Table of Contents
 * #|Today's posts
 * Bottom of page
 * I took the liberty of breaking the HTML source code shown to several lines to stop it from widening the page horizontally. J I P  &#124; Talk 20:43, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Making Anna Passey a page
Hi. There is a wikipedia page for the character Sienna Blake played by Anna Passey in Hollyoaks. But there is no page for the actress herself, which given her profile/awards/credits etc, there should be. So can we request that one is created for her? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.145.172.193 (talk) 14:58, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * If you register an account, you can create one yourself. See Your first article for information on how to do so. -- Jayron 32 15:22, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * See also WP:AFC Dingsuntil (talk) 03:21, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

How to edit company information
Hello, I am asked to update the information of HARTMANN Gruppe on Wikipedia. How do I do it? It says that I need to be an authorized reader. How do I be thaTt?

thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denizchelack (talk • contribs) 19:55, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi I don't believe we have a page on Hartmann Gruppe. Could you elaborate on who asked you to update the company's information, and if a page already exists? ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 19:58, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Here, or at de.wikipedia.org? -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  19:59, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * In either case you have a conflict of interest and shouldnt be editing about companies for which you are employed. Make suggestions on the talk page and provide links to reliably published third party sources that support the changes. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  20:50, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Ralphie Dee D'Agostino
Must have hit save and incorrectly formatted the career section of this wiki page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ralphiedee (talk • contribs) 20:48, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * at the top of each page is a History tab which shows each edit on the page. you can browse from edit to edit to find where you made an error and use the "undo" to revert yourself. --  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  21:29, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors
Cite error ref no input No references needed: Just looking at the score, it is obviously in f minor, rather than in F major, as the page previously said.

Move from header to section. Mlpearc ( open channel ) 22:24, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Help with misleading tittle/ Adding information to a current wiki page.
Hello my names Brent Radaideh and recently I found a wikipedia article with a tittle not correct, it is saying


 * Draft:MasterChef(Rapper)

the word "Draft " in it

I would like to be able to change that where it can say "Master Chef(Rapper)" Please help me on changing this misleading tittle ,Thank you :D!

especially when you go to MasterChef

there is a section called "See also" I edited this many times to put "Master Chef(Rapper) but it is not continuing to do so ,Thank you and best regards to wiki's support team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radaideh100 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * As mentioned in the next section, I made some comments at the Draft:MasterChef(Rapper) page that you created.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 04:34, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Misleading Tittle/adding information to a current published article on wiki
Hello my names Brent Radaideh and recently I found a wikipedia article with a tittle not correct, it is saying


 * Draft:MasterChef(Rapper)

the word "Draft " in it

I would like to be able to change that where it can say "Master Chef(Rapper)" Please help me on changing this misleading tittle ,Thank you :D!

especially when you go to MasterChef

there is a section called "See also" I edited this many times to put "Master Chef(Rapper) but it is not continuing to do so ,Thank you and best regards to wiki's support team.

Sign.X Radaideh100

sorry if you guys see this twice i forgot to sign on the last submit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radaideh100 (talk • contribs) 22:37, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * , It looks like you drafted Draft:MasterChef(Rapper), which is an article in the making. I'll take a look at it and make some comments.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 04:15, 27 March 2015 (UTC)