Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 March 30

= March 30 =

Referencing errors on Marty Peretz
Reference help requested.

Thanks, Zuno2223 (talk) 03:15, 30 March 2015 (UTC) was hoping for help to do proper footnote, one on article hasn't worked
 * Hey Zuno2223. I think looking at the diff of the fix will be self-explanatory. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:15, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Adjara Group Hospitality
Hello,

I have posted an article regarding a Georgian company "Adjara Group Hospitality" which was not submitted. For the source I used their web site adjaragroup.com. Can you please tell me why this source is considered unreliable or what I should do to post it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulo Tardelli (talk • contribs) 05:38, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The subject of an article is not deemed a reliable source, because self-published sources are inevitably going to reflect the subject's official position and view of its history, and the image which the subject wishes to project of itself. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  11:30, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text: The name reference "comelec" was invoked due to misleading data
I think that this link would support to correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.169.135.236 (talk • contribs) . –Be..anyone (talk) 06:22, 30 March 2015 (UTC) Better advice below. –Be..anyone (talk) 14:29, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * See also Creation and usage of media files. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:12, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Draft:Ramakant Maharaj
Reference help requested.

I have removed some content from my contribution and added more. While doing this, I have created some new referencing errors that I do not know how to rectify. Another problem is that I am unsure how to remove sources, citations that are no longer needed. Need your help, please! Also, if you can comment before resubmitting. Much appreciated! Onenessall (talk) 07:01, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Onenessall (talk) 07:01, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Looking at the first reference in the first section of your Diff, this is almost good enough. You use cite web, with the required title= and url=. You could later add more (optional) parameters like author= date= publisher= accessdate=. An accessdate= is always a good idea, it shows a date when the external link actually worked for somebody. There are potential problems in  :
 * If you don't need the same reference elsewhere, a name= is unnecessary.
 * If you need it elsewhere pick a short name starting with a letter, without spaces, e.g.,.
 * When yoy actually use it elsewhere on the same page the syntax is  (example).
 * –Be..anyone (talk) 07:29, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Catalan names in Spain
Is it normal practice in Spain to "Castilianise" Catalan personal names, such as Miguel for Miquel?

I started an article on Miguel Farré Mallofré - or should that be Miquel Farré i Mallofré? He's a pianist who was also a strong chess player back in the late 50s/early 60s. Chess sources usually use the Spanish/Castilian spelling, music sources usually use the Catalan spelling. I'm not sure which spelling should be the main article and which should be the redirect. MaxBrowne (talk) 10:11, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Jump in Wikipedia article count
How did the English Wikipedia article count suddenly jump by almost one hundred thousand articles in less than one week? J I P &#124; Talk 11:06, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Discussed at Village pump (technical)/Archive 136 PrimeHunter (talk) 11:09, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Please check my references
Please check my refs for these 6 pages- 1 Martineau family 2 Arnold Lupton 3 Oswald Birley 4 Lupton family 5 Headingley 6 Potternewton

Thanks so much M.E.R. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.63.12 (talk) 11:13, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * It appears they have been checked and you've been given feedback at User_talk:Keith_D. CaptRik (talk) 15:17, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

New article submission
We would like request an article of Youngest Bhutanese scientist, Mr.. Vishma Rai. Google search outlines his work in Bhutan and India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CE21:4E80:8914:A888:444A:FCE2 (talk) 11:28, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) who is "we"? see WP:ROLE
 * 2)if you are his family or employer or employee, please read WP:COI and go to WP:RA.
 * 3) if you do not have a conflict of interest, the subject must meet some basic requirements: that reliably published sources with a reputation for editorial oversight that are not connected to the subject have discussed the subject in a significant manner, not just you can google him!, and see WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  11:52, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Communicating with another editor
Hello. Thank you for your attention. I am very impressed with the structure, detail and specificity of the contributions undergirding this project. I just spent several more hours than I originally intended looking, first at some content related to the State of Israel, and then at the discussion pages associated with the Israel Project -- I know I have that name incorrect -- and the editors involved in creating and maintaining it. I was continuously impressed with the contributions of one editor in particular to the discussion. She was rigorous, thoughtful, logical, rational and impassioned. She was invariably respectful and solicitous, I would even say forgiving, in relation to the other editors involved in the project and their ability to work together.

I think I mentioned how impressed I am with the structure of Wikipedia. I think it's also important for me to mention that I find it difficult to navigate, despite my relative ease doing so with several other user-generated systems and my perspicacity generally. I just want to be able to deliver my complementary comments directly to this editor and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to do that despite all of the information that seems to be available when I consider all of the links and sub links that I could explore, and sadly, I have expired, trying to figure it out. It is quite a muddle.

I derived tremendous benefit from the information I gain as a reader from Wikipedia and I have given serious thought to becoming more active as an editor. My impulse currently is that I should avoid this assiduously. Said impulse can be traced directly to the level of invective, impatience, disrespect, misrepresentation and more that I found myself unable to stop reading earlier this evening, interlaced as it was with a deep and thoughtful and familiar knowledge of the content area at hand and the rules and regulations and culture of Wikipedia and its editors. I am honestly exhausted! Bravo to those of you who are in the trenches.

My understanding is that it should be relatively easy to go to the talk page of most editors and comment for or to them. Hopefully I made it clear that this is not the situation as I am experiencing it with the editor to whom I would like to give my feedback. Her talk page does not allow general readers or editors to use it without requesting permission. I would be happy to share the identity of the editor with assurance and guidance from the responder that my request could not or should not in any way bring trouble or concern to this editor and that the information provided to me in relation to being able to communicate with this editor is in keeping with the standards and practices of Wikipedia and its users and editors.

Thank you again for your attention. Jedherman 12:09, 30 March 2015 (UTC)jedherman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jedherman (talk • contribs)


 * The policy is at PROT. It says "User talk pages are rarely protected, and are semi-protected for short durations only in the most severe cases of vandalism from IP users. Users whose talk pages are semi-protected should have an unprotected user talk subpage linked conspicuously from their main talk page to allow good faith comments from non-autoconfirmed users."  It is possible that the admin who protected the page made a mistake. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:15, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Your dip into the sausage making factory of the Israel Palestine content placed you in one of the most contentious areas of Wikipedia, one that has been so troublesome as to require the intervention of the "arbitration committee". Much of Wikipedia project does not have the ideological partisanship which is inherent in those pages.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  12:30, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * you can also communicate with others by using the "ping". For instance, you can make a comment on your user page . Place their user name inside  and sign your name with ~ in the same save and the editor will get a notice.--  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  12:34, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Jedherman 12:57, 30 March 2015 (UTC)jedherman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jedherman (talk • contribs)

Cleanup complete?
I think all the citations problems with my article are cleaned up now. When will the note at the top (This article may require cleanup to meet quality standards. The specific problem is: citations) disappear? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SS-Henderson (talk • contribs) 13:51, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Notices don't disappear automagically. They must be removed by hand. You can either do this yourself or wait for another editor to do it. J I P  &#124; Talk 14:20, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have reviewed the recent edits to Ximenez-Fatio House and there is much better referencing throughout. I've removed the tag.  CaptRik (talk) 15:15, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Template problem
There's a problem with the widely used template Year_article_header. I can't identify the cause myself (it's a very complex template) so I've asked for help on the talk page, but with no response. Another editor raised the same issue nine months ago, also without success. Can anyone here help? Colonies Chris (talk) 15:47, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Per the documentation (which needs a lot of work) it only work for 1930 and later. --  Gadget850talk 15:59, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Liza Jacqueline?
Hi I have seen Liza Jacqueline articel. But I can not found a good link page. Where I can find her birth date. I can this page found it: Imdb, tvtome and tv.com. Who is this person? I have no seen her real face and more.--Maxie1hoi (talk) 17:45, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * If the article does not provide you with the information you need, try the Entertainment Reference Desk.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  20:06, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Organizing User Page
I have been adding different user boxes to my page. The problem is that the different categories (Biography, Music, Movies, etc.) are all over the place. How do I organize them to be in a specific order? Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JIK1975 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Take a look at userboxtop and its options.--ukexpat (talk) 20:41, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

My IP has been used to make changes?
I just got a notification that my IP address has been used to makes changes to some pages that I've never visited; one of them is the university I attend. I am on my personal computer, but using my university's WiFi. Should I be worried? I'm not sure how IP addresses work, but I thought that every computer had a specific one. Is it because I'm sharing WiFi, or do I have a security problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.249.167.1 (talk) 21:38, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * If you do not want to get notices about edits that others have made, you can create an account. It is free and more anonymous than editing by IP (which as you have noticed, lets people know where you are editing from). -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  22:03, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * A single vandalism edit from an IP is generally overlooked. A pattern of vandalism will lead to blocks preventing anyone from editing. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  22:05, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * To answer your question: you misunderstand IP addresses somewhat, or at least how we handle them. Wikipedia records the address that contacts the Wikipedia servers, which is generally the address of your Internet connection, not your computer.  When I was in graduate school, I sometimes edited with public computers when I couldn't log in: sometimes I'd see that the same IP address was assigned to multiple computers (I edited with one computer, and then edited with another one, and both edits were attributed to the same address), while at other times I've noticed that edits from the same computer on different days were assigned to different addresses.  Basically, someone else has made these edits with another computer, and the address has simply been reassigned to you; don't worry that this is a security issue.  PS, I see you're from Murray State; I visited Murray a year ago.  Nice-looking town and campus!  Nyttend (talk) 23:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Don't worry. An IP address can be for a whole organization or region. It may also change each time you log on to the same Internet connection, even with a stationary computer wired to a modem. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:17, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Shane long was discovered by Stephen Neiland
Hi Guys

Shane long for Ireland playing  was in fact discovered by Stephen Neiland who was head coach with Cork City at the time  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.132.16 (talk) 21:53, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Do you have a published reliable source for that? I couldn't find anything with Google. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:31, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Can an article go up for Peer Review concurrent with a DYK nomination?
I recently created an article and have nominated it at DYK. However, I would also like to have it peer reviewed. Is there any limitation on doing both at the same time? I asked this question at Wikipedia Talk:Peer review, but am not sure how active that page is. --Jpcase (talk) 22:49, 30 March 2015 (UTC)