Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 May 12

= May 12 =

Edit overlap
Hi, could someone advise me on how to check on the editing overlap between two editors? Like which articles or discussions they have both edited or participated in. Thank you. starship.paint  ~ ¡ Olé !  01:01, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Use the Editor Interaction Utility. Dismas |(talk) 01:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * One tool at labs. Just be careful about the conclusions you draw from it, the stats a script like that generates can be dangerously misleading if your not careful. Monty  845  01:56, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you both, and ! I will be careful. starship.paint  ~ ¡ Olé !  02:43, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Question about the Bruce Springsteen template
For some reason, although "Racing in the Street" is listed in the template, the template itself does not appear at the bottom of the page. I edited the template to include "Adam Raised a Cain", but the template doesn't appear there either, nor for "Johnny 99", "Pay Me My Money Down", "Growin' Up", "For You", "The Fever", "Thunder Road", "Independence Day", "Out in the Street", "Nebraska", "Highway Patrolman" and "Pink Cadillac".

Also, the link in the template for "Sherry Darling" redirects to the page for the album The River. The link in the template for "Backstreets" is incorrect, as the template has it as "Backstreets".

The page for "Jersey Girl" has Tom Waits' template, but not Bruce's. The link on the template for "Murder Incorporated" goes to the page for Blood Brothers, as there is no separate page for the song. The page for "Land of Hope and Dreams" has the template for Major League Baseball on TBS, but not Bruce's template.

How can this be fixed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JIK1975 (talk • contribs) 01:43, May 12, 2015
 * To have the template displayed you need to add the template to the page in question, the syntax is Bruce Springsteen to transclude it. (put it somewhere at the bottom) Adding a song to the template just has that song display in the template on every page where its already being transcluded. Monty  845  01:48, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Notifications on company page
Hi There are some notifications on our company page, conflict of interest, content written like an advertisement(left April 2014), and citations required. (Left 2011) How can we have our page reviewed, cleaned up so that these conflicts do not exist, and the messages removed? Do I need to tag the page for review by a particular group of people. I've spent quite some time looking through all the policies and protocols, but it's very confusing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.228.95.178 (talk) 04:06, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * There is no such thing as a 'company page' on Wikipedia - this is an encyclopaedia, not a platform for promotion, and your apparent misunderstanding of this is probably the reason behind the notifications. As for specifics, we aren't mind readers, and unless you tell us which article you are referring to there isn't much we can say. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:14, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I suggest you read WP:COI and WP:CORP. There's not a lot that you can do to get those tags removed - it needs an uninvolved editor. But if you think you can see a way that the article could be made more neutral, and especially if you have any independent reliable published sources about the company that could be used to support the information in the article, you could put your suggestions on the article's Talk page, with the template edit request. --ColinFine (talk) 14:54, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

How to nominate an article for deletion
Greetings.I am new to Wikipedia and would like to know how an article can be nominated for deletion.The article is about a person who in my opinion does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines and secondly the person himself/herself wants it removed as the article is mainly about 'Past Work' and is not connected to the present.Is this possible? Velvet16 (talk) 04:26, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * See Guide to deletion, and also Notability (people) for the specifics of notability requirements for biographies. You should note however that your second rationale for wanting the article deleted is unlikely to be accepted - we expect biographies to cover 'past work' since that is presumably why the person is notable in the first place. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:36, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Report of Plausible Misinformation - Harassment
Alab : I’m Mohammad Bahmanbeigi's son and my name is Allahverdi. I've noticed that recently the article coming under Mohammad Bahmanbeigi's name has been modified which I believe contains a lot of biased and false informations as well as stealth and premeditated accusations. Also the article that comes under the Farsi translation is not a true translation of the English version and they don't correlate in terms of both quantity and the concept which also confirms that the Farsi page has been used as a propaganda platform to advertise and self-promote on behalf of some specific groups and persons whilst the English version is used as a plausible veneer to comply by the Wikipedia editorial rules and regulations. The following are some of the false informations which have been stated to be backed by confidential classified documents from the Emassy of the United States in Tehran:

Bahmanbeigi was a member of the Point Four Tribal Education Program and a local person to cooperate with, and to facilitate American assistance."  later on it claims that " ... Bahmanbeigi was placed on the Point Four Payroll."

How can one check and verify the existence of such payrolls and classified documents? As his son I am totally convinced that there are not such payrolls and eligible documents since he was never an employee of the Point Four Program although he received aid from it.

The section titled "The Point Four and Tribal Education" implies that the "Tribal Tent School System" was designed and implemented by Dr Glen Gogan and his as assosciates. Ok, then how comes that Dr Gogan is not praised among the tribal people as the founder of the tent school system and I'm totally convinced that not even one of those students and graduates who are up and about around the country these days may know nothing about him. Furthermore on the Reference section it shows that Dr Gogan had accomplished a Master's thesis at the Brigham Young University on this Project. Is that all? A comprehensive project running for nearly thirty years baring tens of thousands of trainees including Doctors, Engineers, Teachers, Lawyers, etc has been briefed and presented in just one Master's Thesis Study!

Bahmanbeigi visited the US in 1951. It was a personal journey to see if he can stay there as a permenant resident which was aborted, he didn't come back with a mission like a spy as Nazanin123 implies so.

The section titled "Qashqai Tribal Education and Bahmanbeigi" conveys a controversy as it says that Pahlavi King recreated the "Office of Tribal Education" instead of the previous section who claims that the Americans were the ones who designed and implemented the Tribal Education. Or maybe it alludes that The CIA, Pahlavi King and the Point Four Program and the graduates of Brigham Young University all colluded and chose Bahmanbeig as an agent to educate the tribal children for some hidden purposes.

Please don't abuse the Wikipedia for personal purposes and don't forge documents to spread controversy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alaverbahma (talk • contribs) 12:20, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Without getting into the merits, you must be very careful when you make allegations like those in your final paragraph.--ukexpat (talk) 12:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * You and another editor have a content dispute in the article, Mohammad Bahmanbeigi. You have a conflict of interest and should not be editing the article.  Please read the dispute resolution policy and follow one of the procedures described there.  Robert McClenon (talk) 14:41, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Replacing a photo
Currently a photograph of a building that has been torn down is on the web page. I want to replace it with the building that was constructed to replace it. Even though I am logged in it will not allow me to upload a new photo. Can someone please help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennifer Esler (talk • contribs) 13:13, 12 May 2015 (UTC) As the building exists, we cannot use a "fair-use" image, which would have to be uploaded to en.wikipedia, we need to use a copyright-free picture, (the easy way is one you took yourself) which, as Ebyabe has said, should be uploaded at Wikipedia Commons, and for which you do not need to be Autoconfirmed. - Arjayay (talk) 15:03, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Have you tried uploading it at Wikipedia Commons? That's the better place, since then the photos can be used in other language wikis more easily. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Attract and Repel   ‖ 14:15, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * You cannot upload pictures to en.wikipedia because your account is not Autoconfirmed.


 * I know this isn't what you were asking,, but depending on what the subject of the article is, it might be appropriate to keep the picture of the demolished building as well as adding the new one. --ColinFine (talk) 14:58, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, the article says the building was torn down in 2009, but I took that picture in November 2010. So I'm confused about that as well. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 15:57, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Multiple sources say it was torn down in June 2011. I have corrected the article.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elliott_Museum&diff=662072419&oldid=662065826] PrimeHunter (talk) 22:51, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Changing a company name
Hi

For many years the company was Victor Chandler International but last year it was sold and the new company is BetVictor

When you search BetVictor in Google for example the entry is still Victor Chandler International - how do I change this to reflect the new company name

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Betvictor (talk • contribs) 13:57, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

To rename the title, you have to move the page. Users that aren't autoconfirmed (as their account is under 4 days old, or they have < 10 edits) can't do it, I believe, but I did it for you. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:05, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

request edit
Please remove this statement from our page, Gresham Police Department (Oregon) "It also spends a large amount of time and effort stealing wallets of dead men, without any proper documentation and then when the family requests their own property back, they make sure and give them a very hard time"

I believe this has been edited by someone other that a publisher for Wikipedia.

Thank you, City of Gresham — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.187.105.70 (talk) 14:47, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. You are allowed to remove blatant vandalism like that by yourself if you want. But if you want to keep things at arms length feel free to report anything here instead. - X201 (talk) 14:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

How do I get one of those RfA trackers for my talk page
I've seen them around, but now I don't remember where, but I want one of those admin trackers that shows all the open RfAs. Where do I find that? RO (talk) 16:19, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Cyberpower678/RfX Report is the one I use, I don't know if there is an RFA only version. Monty  845  17:12, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! RO (talk)  17:25, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

searching the intersection of two categories
Hello. How do I search two categories at once for articles that appear in both? For example, Guggenheim Fellows and People from Toronto? THanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.150.38.155 (talk) 18:15, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I've used WP:CatScan before, but labs seems to be having an issue at the moment. Rwessel (talk) 18:24, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * FWIW, Labs is back, and CatScan is available. Rwessel (talk) 21:35, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks, that did the trick. 142.150.38.155 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.150.38.155 (talk) 14:00, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Announcement templates
Is there an extant policy on how to appropriately word external forum announcements? That is, on the Somali and Amharic wikis. Also, are there any templates that editors can use for general announcements on English Wikipedia activities, events and such? Thanks, Middayexpress (talk) 21:25, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Would you mind please clarifying here Middayexpress? Do I understand correctly that you are considering soliciting involvement of people who are not currently associated with Wikipedia, for some purpose on Wikipedia? Is this what you mean by an 'external forum'? Buckshot06 (talk) 21:53, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Note: Additions were made to the question after had replied. - X201 (talk) 16:08, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you mean that you want to direct editors to non-English wikis? You can do that with proper links.  Do you want a template that does some of that work for you?  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:06, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
 * You had originally asked me on my talk page how to do that, and I advised you to come here. However, because you referred to "external forum announcements", you were misunderstood, and you could have been asking about inserting spam links.  Inserting spam links is disruptive editing and can result in blocks.  Since you are asking about cross-wiki announcements rather than completely external announcements, it is a reasonable question.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:06, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I definitely did not mean spamlinks. I understand some bots automatically filter those out anyway. What cross-wiki announcement templates are available? Middayexpress (talk) 16:35, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Top writers of FAs
Is there any way that I can find out who has written the most FAs? RO (talk) 22:06, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * @Rationalobserver:  I looked for quite a while the other day for an answer and couldn't find one (other than some type of brute force cataloguing) so I waited to see if someone else would be along but I see your question is languishing. The thing is, this is something I expected to be easily available, at Featured article statistics or in the archive WT:FA or something, and looked and looked more and tried Google searches and ... nope. I hope User:TonyTheTiger doesn't mind me pinging him here. He has a million featured content writing credits and might be able to shed some light.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:15, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I found it! List of Wikipedians by featured article nominations RO (talk)  16:23, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Aha! Yes, it sure felt like something that had to exist. It doesn't appear to be linked from any of the main FA pages, only from the pages at Wikipedia:Featured articles promoted in [YEAR], which makes it somewhat difficult to find.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:47, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Template display size and position
1. Can I change the size at which a template displays a map in an article? In the immediate case, Lexington and West Cambridge Railroad, smaller would be better. Display size of an image would be controlled by "px". Is there an analogous parameter for use with templates? 2. I would like to add a second map at the right of the existing one. Syntax for that? Thank you in advance. Hertz1888 (talk) 23:25, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi . Generally it depends on the definition of the particular template; in this case Lexington Branch, which in turn uses BS-map. See WP:ROUTE for documentation on these. I think the simple answer is No, because the diagram is not a graphic, but is assembled from a Wikitable; but it is possible that the width= or style= parameters can help you achieve what you want. --ColinFine (talk) 10:43, 13 May 2015 (UTC)