Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 November 21

= November 21 =

Billyc840 page deleted
I disagree with this deletion and what to reverse this. I posted MY talk page with links to article I HAVE WRITTEN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BillyC840 (talk • contribs) 23:20, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Advertising is not allowed on you user page any more than it is allowed anywhere else. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  23:23, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Lord Mayor's Cup 1989
Dear Wikipedia

Re Lord Mayor's Cup Doomben Brisbane Queensland in 1989. The race was won by horse CAV LON on 4th November 1989., not Bravery as shown in Wikipedia. Bravery won the Carnival Handicap earlier in the year (May). As shown in Wikipedia the race listed in Wikipedia had several name changes over the years. CAV LON was owned by Ken and Melva Cavanough and it is disappointing for them to read no reference to CAV LON winning the Lord Mayor's in 1989. Brisbane Lord Mayor Sally Anne Atkinson presented the cup to the winning connections (race sponsored by Commonwealth Industrial Gases (CIG)). We have newspaper and photo evidence. The Doomben race results were published in the Brisbane Sunday Mail on 5th November 1989. Australian Bloodhound Information Services does list CAV LON's race records correctly.

Ken Cavanough recently celebrated his 90th birthday. Ken and Melva Cavanough also celebrated their 70th wedding anniversary in 2014. CAV LON after 100 starts became a household pet and only died a couple of years ago almost 30 years of age.

Racing Australia TTSC Syndication Consultant may have further information if required.

Sincerely

William Smith

Please refer to the following URL.

Lord Mayor's Cup (BRC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.174.161.84 (talk) 01:01, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Please provide reliable sources to support the claims you made above. Thanks. Tiggerjay (talk) 01:53, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Tiggerjay, the OP refers to the report in the Brisbane Sunday Mail. That should be as reliable a source as is needed.


 * William, the place to ask for this change is on the Talk Page for the article: Talk:Lord Mayor's Cup (BRC). I've copied your request there.  Rojomoke (talk) 05:47, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * somehow I missed the reference, thanks! Tiggerjay (talk) 21:54, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

What do I need to add to make it a reliable source?
Hi,

Just a quick question on my page Paul Rowley (broadcaster) What would you need me to add to it make make it reliable?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulrowley11 (talk • contribs) 01:14, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * See WP:RS. As well as WP:AUTOBIO for more information. However, in short we don't recommend people writing about themselves. Tiggerjay (talk) 01:52, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I was, however able to find some sources and added them to the article. Tiggerjay (talk) 17:58, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Draft:Hickory Flats
Reference help requested.

the comment refers to a referencing error, but did not state where the error occurred. I am first time editor. Please help by pointing out where the error occurred

Thanks, Djenkins bburg (talk) 02:48, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * You appear to have fixed this with your edits at 01:26 and 01:29 on 16 November 2015. Rwessel (talk) 04:45, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Jaccob Slavin
Reference help requested.

I don't understand the error I've apparently made.

Thanks, HeyKurtz (talk) 02:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The URL appears to have contained pipe characters, which confused the template parser (which uses pipes to separate parameters). I think the "&navid=DL|CAR|home" was just some URL rewriting done when the site was being navigated (and not otherwise needed), and I removed it.  Please verify that the link is still to the correct web page.  Rwessel (talk) 04:37, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Buying center
Reference help requested.

I am unsure what is the error in the reference.

Thanks, Blamethemessenger (talk) 05:14, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * This was fixed by 13:31, 3 March 2014.  Rwessel (talk) 05:26, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Noam Chomsky
Reference help requested.

Hoping that these requests are linked to the issue that caused the request in the first place. Re. my page number error I cannot see the error on the actual page itself when I go into fix it. The error only appears to be bit where the error is highlighted. In a nutshell I think I had assumed I should also add in the total number of pages in book but perhaps this is not the case? Cheers

Thanks, Blamethemessenger (talk) 05:21, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * This (as is the prior item) is an edit from last December, it was also subsequently fixed. Are you perhaps just noticing the year-old messages on your talk page?  Rwessel (talk) 05:30, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * And the referencing issue for Mentalism (philosophy) from last December has also been fixed. Rwessel (talk) 05:33, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The "pages" field often causes confusion. It is an alternative to the "page" field, to be used (I think) when the passage you are citing covers more than one page. Maproom (talk) 09:39, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

New listing on Wikipedia
Good day Wikipedia,

I would like to list me and my dance partner on Wikipedia. We were 7 times undefeated professional dance champions and 9 times world representatives.

South Africa have a lot of dance history but not a lot available to the people. Please advise.

Regards, Brian Schmidt & Meryl Williams — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian Schmidt Ballroom (talk • contribs) 15:39, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I have left a note on your talk page. HighInBC 17:13, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

David William Lewis and David W. Lewis
... are the same person. First Confederate Congress links to David William Lewis and David William Lewis links back to First Confederate Congress. But David W. Lewis links also to Congress of the Confederate States. Date of death is unclear: David W. Lewis uses two different dates (December 12 and 18) and David William Lewis another still (December 28). Same with birth place: According to David W. Lewis Lumpkin County, Georgia and Hancock County, Georgia and David William Lewis Hancock County, Georgia. --Ephraim33 (talk) 18:49, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * , while it looks plausible, do you have any sources to confirm these are the same person? Neither article is currently at all well sourced. If there are sources, a WP:MERGE should be done. DES (talk) 19:25, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * See Common Sense. It is clear that these are the same person, with slightly inconsistent (but not seriously inconsistent) dates of death.  The alternative, which is that they are two different people with the same or almost the same name and the same birth year and death month, violates Occam's Razor by creating an absurdly complicated explanation.  Situations like this, with multiple slightly different records that are clearly the same person, arise in genealogy all the time.  It is true that none of the articles are well sourced.  However, my opinion is that the various sources are consistent enough that they should be merged.  (If there is a source that actually indicates that there were two people, they can be later split.)  Robert McClenon (talk) 22:56, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * There must be a history book of the Confederacy that lists all of the members of their House of Representatives. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:26, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * While Provisional Confederate Congress, First Confederate Congress and Second Confederate Congress are obviously not RS, they do list the representatives and senators of the Confederacy, and they all reference "The Historical Atlas of the Congresses of the Confederate States of America: 1861-1865, by Kenneth C. Martis (Simon and Schuster 1994)", which presumably *is* a RS. Looking at the WP articles, there is a "David Peter Lewis" listed in the Provisional Congress, a "John Wood Lewis, Sr." and a "David William Lewis" listed in the First, and no persons with the surname Lewis in the second.  I would say that the odds of these articles being about different persons is negligible.  Rwessel (talk) 06:56, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input
Childrens Theatre Company - regarding edit submitted by Cedar Riverside on November 21: what is needed for reference? My edit is based on extensive personal contacts and first-hand experience during that early period of the Moppet Players and Childrens Theatre history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cedar Riverside (talk • contribs)
 * Hello . At Wikipedia, all information must be verifiable as coming from reliably published source and so your "extensive personal contacts and first-hand experience" mean nothing to us until you get them published. Until then, you will need to provide citations to content that others have already published. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  19:51, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Albert Henry Loeb
In an article you have on Albert Henry Loeb you mistakenly say that HE named his farm "Castle Farms." He did not he named it Loeb Farms and after the barns were sold one of the new owners named it Castle Farms. I do believe it is currently named, "Castle Barns." My source is a simple one: I am Great Grandson of Albert Loeb, his second oldest son, Ernest was my grandfather and I vacationed there well into my fifties.

Thank You, David Silberman son of Jane Allen Loeb Sooy Ernest Loeb's oldest daughter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.53.153.131 (talk) 19:54, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I've taken care of the issue. Thanks for noting this.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:24, 21 November 2015 (UTC)