Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015 September 11

= September 11 =

post taken down List of film festivals
Hi.

We put up info about Winter Film Awards INC. and the posting been taking off twice. I place the following:

List of film festivals in North and Central America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_festivals_in_North_and_Central_America#International_festivals code below:
 * Winter Film Awards||2012||New York City||New York|| New York City's Winter Film Awards Film Festival focuses on nurturing emerging filmmakers from all genres around the world, and helping them gain recognition, distribution and contacts to break into this difficult industry. Held annually in February
 * http://www.winterfilmawards.com
 * http://www.winterfilmawards.com

and

List of film festivals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_festivals#North_America code below:
 * Winter Film Awards||2012||New York City||New York|| International||New York City's Winter Film Awards Film Festival focuses on nurturing emerging filmmakers from all genres around the world, and helping them gain recognition, distribution and contacts to break into this difficult industry. Held annually in February http://www.winterfilmawards.com
 * Winter Film Awards||2012||New York City||New York|| International||New York City's Winter Film Awards Film Festival focuses on nurturing emerging filmmakers from all genres around the world, and helping them gain recognition, distribution and contacts to break into this difficult industry. Held annually in February http://www.winterfilmawards.com

Can someone please let us know what went wrong thank you for your time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isaacs wfa (talk • contribs) 00:25, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Nothing went wrong. Your addition was reverted by another editor. They left the following edit summary, "redlink, if subject is notable, please create cited article first".  If the event is notable a standalone page can be created first.  However, your username potentially indicates that you may have a conflict of interest in this subject.  Do you work for this company?  Remember Wikipedia is not for promotion.  Wikipedia is only for things that are notable on their own.  If the event is notable and there are reliable sources an article can be created.  However, if you have a conflict of interest you should not create the article yourself outright.  Instead, you can use the articles for creation system.  This system will allow you to create an article that will be reviewed by other, impartial, editors that will ensure that it meets all the standards and guidelines Wikipedia has set for their articles. --Stabila711 (talk) 00:36, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Hewllo, . A phrase like "We put up info" almost always means that somebody has misunderstood in a fundamental way what Wikipedia is and what it is for. "Putting up info" is not what happens here - what we do is to write articles, which should be based almost 100% on what people unconnected with the subject, have published about it. If hardly anything has been published about it by independent sources, then it is impossible to write an acceptable article on it, so we don't let you try - that is what "notability" means, as referenced by Stabila711 above. -ColinFine (talk) 10:01, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Samuel Oboh
Can someone help clean up the article on Samuel Oboh as this subject has achieved significant success as the first Canadian of African descent to lead the architecture body of Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.58.220.231 (talk) 02:08, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I have removed some of the puffery, the External links from the bodytext and other MoS violations - perhaps another editor could consider if this goes far enough to remove the remaining tags? - Arjayay (talk) 08:23, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Page title name change
Hello there,

Looking for help with my page. Joseph Seiders

I would like my title name to be "Joe" Seiders and not Joseph. Joe is the professional name that I go by. I don't mind that the first paragraph starts out with my full name but I would like my page to be searchable by "Joe" on Google, etc...

Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:6042:4E00:30B3:ADD1:DF8E:EC9C (talk) 02:57, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Done because that is the name you're commonly known by (see WP:COMMONNAME). ✅ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orangemike (talk • contribs)


 * It has been done by (beat me to it) .  If you wish to make further edits to that page please do not do them yourself as you have a conflict of interest in the page.  Instead you can place  on the article's talk page along with your edit request.  Another editor will make the edit for you to avoid any potential issues. --Stabila711 (talk) 03:17, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Projection and mapping
Two questions. The first one belongs rather to WP:RD/MA, but it serves as an introduction to the second: CiaPan (talk) 07:10, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) What's the difference between projection and mapping in geometry and cartography?
 * 2) Is there a reason to keep Category:Conformal projections and Category:Conformal mapping separate?
 * Geometers use the word "mapping" for any function from one space to another, and specify "conformal mapping" if it conserves angles. Cartographers are interested in conformal, and other, maps from a sphere or spheroid (the earth's surface) to the plane ("map" in the everyday sense), and call them "projections". Many conformal maps are of no interest to cartographers. All conformal projections used by cartographers are conformal mappings. I would expect the former category to be a subset of the latter. Maproom (talk) 08:15, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

need help with replacing a photo on Sir Martin Gilbert Wiki page
Hi there, Im trying to replace a photo on the Sir Martin Gilbert Wiki page. Sir Martin Gilbert has been rebranded so we want the photo on wiki to be in line with his website and other social network platforms. I have uploaded the photo to wiki and given my details re the source of the photo,and I now need to upload to the box on the right on his page,but cant see how this is done. Can anyone help me?

Many Thanks Estelle1960 (talk) 10:35, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Is it about Martin Gilbert page? --CiaPan (talk) 10:45, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not concerned with rebranding. However, the image which you uploaded to File:Sir_Martin_Gilbert.jpg appears (to me; other editors may disagree) to be better than the one in the Martin Gilbert article, so I have replaced it. Maproom (talk) 10:47, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * ...and I have re-inserted the previous image into the Martin Gilbert section. --CiaPan (talk) 10:53, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * However, the copyright of the picture is a concern. When you uploaded it, you specified an acceptably free licence, but gave the date of the picture as "It was taken by am employee". Without evidence to the contrary, we must assume that this employee, rather than you, is the owner of the copyright, and you cannot release it on their behalf. Even if there is a contract with that employee, transferring the copyright to a company, we will need evidence of this, and formal permission from the current copyright-holder rather than from you. I will put the old picture back until this gets sorted out. Maproom (talk) 10:54, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * [off-topic] How the heck do you "rebrand" a person, and a dead one at that?--ukexpat (talk) 13:52, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Human branding ? - Arjayay (talk) 20:27, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * See the careers of Miley Cyrus, Lindsay Lohan, and possibly Bob Sagat though Sagat's personal humor has probably always been dark. Dismas |(talk) 20:34, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text
Please help me to correct mistake: "The named reference survey was invoked but never defined". The site is working and the link is correct, I can't understand what to fix there. the link is at the bottom of this page SmartCAT

And another problem - you delete the page SmartCAT as a promotional. I changed the text, trying to describe functions of the program in the same way as MemoQ page was done, so it won't look as promotional. Hope this time you can accept it. Or just write me what to change in the description. Thank you. Nadezhda — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pupsa.k (talk • contribs) 11:36, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I've fixed the reference error. The article has no references and no clear indication of why its notable. In its current form it will be heading for the bin. I suggest Your first article would the best place for you to start. - X201 (talk) 11:41, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Repealing an Arb restriction
Where does one go, to get an Arb restriction repealed? GoodDay (talk) 13:57, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * At WP:ARCA. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:20, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

new topic?
hello, I noticed Wikipedia has an article on siestas but not "water breaks"; not sure if it qualifies, but I thought I would mention it! thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.171.130.173 (talk) 19:24, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * We have an article on Break (work) which covers tea-breaks and coffee-breaks, and an article on Water coolers including a section on Water cooler effect - perhaps you could add to either, or both, of those articles? - Arjayay (talk) 19:56, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * if there are sources that discuss the specific subject in a significant manner it can be a stand alone article. It seems unlikely, but potentially plausible that "water breaks" would become a specific "thing" talked about - particularly in a drought situation with farm laborers where the necessity for hydration became part of the focus of discussion and enactment or enforcement of labor laws... -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  03:06, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Namespace moves
Is there any tool/method to find moves between different namespaces? I know there's the move log, but it doesn't really offer that kind of filtering and is overwhelmed by page renames. Finding these kinds of moves would be really useful because personally I've found a few drafts moved to the Wikipedia namespace because movers assumed it was the article namespace. It would also highlight any possible vandalism where for example an article was moved to the FIle namespace. Opencooper (talk) 20:21, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know of any existing tool for this, but it would be possible to download the move log and apply an offline application to filter out such entries fairly easily -- indeed a spreadsheet could probably be used for the purpose. I suppose an online tool could be created for this. DES (talk) 21:16, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I suppose that route could work well if the logs are downloadable and parsable. Thanks for the suggestion; I'll look into it. Opencooper (talk) 22:26, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

When can Documentaries be included in an article
Hello,when can documentaries be included in an article?

For example, for the Hubble Telescope article I added text about 2 NASA PBS documentaries with citations, which I thought valuable for readers and notable. Someone removed the text as pointless, in their opinion.

Is there documentation describing what documentaries can be noted in an article? I see documentaries noted in other articles.

Thank you, CuriousMind01 (talk) 21:59, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello, It would be: Verifiability. --  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  03:08, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * The section doesn't discuss criteria for contents of an article.CuriousMind01 (talk) 10:28, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 * If you are looking for a list of dictums: "You can include X but you cannot include Y"; you will not find such. We are collaboratively writing an encyclopedia on topics as varied as Drosophila to Who Shot Mr. Burns?. What may be vital for one article may be completely inappropriate for another. The context, scope of the article, existing content, the particulars of the information, are but a few of the considerations that need to be weighed. In one article it might be appropriate to list "Documentaries have been made about the subject including XXXX, YYY and ZZZ(source)." For another it might be appropriate to utilize content from the documentary as article content with documentaries as sources for footnotes. For another, it might not be appropriate to include documentary at all. --  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  14:17, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * For broadly covered topics like Hubble, it really helps if the documentary says something notable that other sources don't (without contradicting the others). Topical information is the hook. That documentaries merely exist doesn't mean much, unless they receive significant secondary coverage and the section is about documentaries (or one in particular). Typically, significant coverage is reserved for cinema documentaries about somewhat unusual or underplayed topics, and leads to standalone articles; PBS and NASA go together as routinely as CNN and the Kardashians, so no article-level notability for (most of?) those pieces.
 * On the flip side, if you find a documentary on a more obscure spacecraft, that edit is far likelier to stick, even if it's a direct-to-YouTube deal (unless the credits only list usernames). Small fish appear bigger in small ponds. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:28, 12 September 2015 (UTC)