Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 August 23

= August 23 =

Reg Ansett
Ref number 3 is all wrong - please fix sorry Srbernadette (talk) 00:09, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It tells you exactly what to change. Check date in the |accessdate parameter. Here is the link to the section, [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reg_Ansett&action=edit&section=8 click]. It is an extra space. Please fix it yourself. And while you are there, the publisher parameter is also malformed. --Majora (talk) 00:15, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

I have failed with 2 attempts to get the dates correctly done. I do not understand why ref. number 3 is still in red. Please help I am so sorrySrbernadette (talk) 00:23, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see MOS:BADDATE for a chart with examples of bad and good date formats. You need to learn how to fix these things on your own. --Majora (talk) 00:28, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

I have had success!!! I have now removed the template at the top of eth page. I believe that this page has enough refs. 00:38, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

North Melbourne Football Club
The first few introductory lines on the page North Melbourne Football Club are in bold - I think this is unnecessary. I have never edited this page. Please let me know what you think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srbernadette (talk • contribs)


 * Fixed it, thanks for pointing this out. Only the article title and eventual synonyms on first mention should usually be bolded (plus a few additional special cases). See the guideline at MOS:BOLD for more information. GermanJoe (talk) 00:31, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

synchrony bank
you are the worst bank I ever had I want to do a balance transfer. I much will that be for tomorrow I never ever see my statements how much do I need to pay you off? ill give this amount, as I like to see before transfer my last meassage was corrupt lets see what happens on this.

cathy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.43.32.53 (talk) 01:02, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 5.2 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --Majora (talk) 01:28, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Created page linked to existing one ...
Hey there, folks, I've never run up against this dilemma before, but obviously I did something that I can't understand or find a solution to undo. In attempting to create an article for the 1952 album "Oscar Peterson Plays George Gershwin" somehow when I finally was ready to "save the page" I was shocked to find that the entire article was now under the title "Oscar Peterson Plays the George Gershwin Songbook", which previously existed as its own article for that album. When I attempted to go back and "undo" what I had done, it did not show any of the work as a large plus number contribution in my history or on the article's history page. Can someone take a look and see what could have gone wrong? I've created pages before, but never run up against something like this. Is there a way to simply revert back to the original article for "Oscar Peterson Plays the George Gershwin Songbook"and yet create a new article "Oscar Peterson Plays George Gershwin" at the same time? Thanks for any help in advance. Maineartists (talk) 02:30, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * I have reverted your edit to Oscar Peterson Plays the George Gershwin Songbook, and used your new content to create the new article Oscar Peterson Plays George Gershwin, and have provided attribution to your edit. When creating a new page you need to do the creation and save in there, rather than saving in an edit to the old article. If you want to do further edits to the new article you can of course now do so. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:09, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * A further problem is that you uploaded the image File:PetersonPlaysGershwin.jpg to Commons, which would only be acceptable if the image was free of copyright. I believe that what you should have done is load it to English Wikipedia under a WP:NFCC rationale in a similar manner to File:Oscarpgershwinsongbook.jpg.  It needs deleting from Commons as an unintended copyright violation. David Biddulph (talk) 05:18, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * David Biddulph Thank you! I appreciate all your knowledgeable work on reverting the old and creating the new. Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 12:18, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * David Biddulph I am attempting to delete the image File:PetersonPlaysGershwin.jpg as instructed and load it to English Wikipedia under a WP:NFCC rationale; but I seem to be unable to find just how to do that -- any suggestions? Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 12:46, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * I've tagged the existing file at Commons for deletion, so hopefully it'll be deleted by an admin there before long. I'm not an image expert so I'll let someone else advise you about uploading it correctly. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:00, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, David Biddulph! I've posted a comment there regarding the use of the same image for two other Clef Records albums: Oscar Peterson Plays Duke Ellington (1952) and Oscar Peterson Plays Harold Arlen (1955) as the one for Oscar Peterson Plays George Gershwin so hopefully whoever uploaded those will know how to upload this one as well. Thanks again! Maineartists (talk) 20:46, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Polianthes tuberosa
Reference help requested.

I donʻt understand what the problem is.

Thanks, Libsys — Preceding unsigned comment added by Libsys (talk • contribs) 02:41, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * The error message says "Check |url= value (help)", and the word "help" is in blue to indicate that it is a wikilink, in this case to Help:CS1 errors. I corrected the error in  in October 2015, in response to the question you asked at  Help desk/Archives/2015 October 31. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:26, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

I need help fixing my error
This was the first time I was doing a move myself. I was trying to move Draft:New Perry Hotel to mainspace, but I moved it to New Perry Hotel. I put in a SD on that article and tried the move again, to New Perry Hotel, but it only created a redirect to New Perry Hotel. How can this be fixed? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:22, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, I figured out that I can SD the redirect then do the move properly. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 04:38, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Reg Ansett
I removed the "warning" at the top of this page - I hope that's OK with  the Wikipedia administrators. Thank youSrbernadette (talk) 04:01, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * The 'maintenance template' has been restored as the page doesn't have anything like enough refs for an article of that length. The date in the notice is to inform editors how long the issues have existed for. Eagleash (talk) 05:42, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

The changes in one of my edits are not the changes I made; how did this happen.
Tigercompanion25 (talk) 04:09, 23 August 2016 (UTC)Greetings, Wikipedians! On the article for Kwanza Unit, I merely attempted to remove a stray parenthesis and move a comma to the correct location. Imagine my surprise when I look at the difference page here and find all sorts of edits I didn't make, including edits regarding the substance of the article, which is on a subject with which I'm not even familiar. A subsequent editor promptly reverted some of these changes, and quite rightly. My concern is, how did this happen? Has my account been hacked? Or has there been a technical glitch? These changes are too specific for me to think I did them in error. Also, this hasn't happened on any of my other edits, as far as I can tell. I don't mean to be melodramatic about it, but I'm deeply perturbed to have someone making poor edits and giving the impression that they're mine. Any ideas what happened here? (And of course, if there's something really obvious I'm overlooking, my apologies for making a thing about this). Tigercompanion25 (talk) 04:09, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Appears to me that you accidentally edited an old version of the page, as you didn't so much introduce as reintroduce some issues. A bit of digging revealed the version you edited to likely have been the one by FrescoBot in January 2011. this diff shows no change beyond the fixes you meant to implement, and that's what I get when I compare your edit to FrescoBot's edit, so...you probably checked or otherwise ended up at an old version of the page before clicking edit. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 04:38, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Ahh, that would explain it. I will be more cautious in future. Thank you for kindly investigating the matter for me! :) Tigercompanion25 (talk) 14:33, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No worries, it happens. Glad to have been of help. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 14:43, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Lan Khuê
Dear Sir/Madam

Could you please answer my inquiry related to my article about a living person? I have added two references which are reliable and contain statements supporting my article's content. However, the warning sign of deleting my article within 7 days if I don't add any reliable references still appears there. I totally have no ideas what's happening and would like to hear your advice.

Here is the URL to my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lan_Khu%C3%AA

Thanks a lot in advance.

Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardhsgs (talk • contribs) 06:00, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, maintenance templates or in this case a proposed deletion (or PROD) notice are not removed automatically but by individual editors who are satisfied that the issues have been addressed. Please read the instructions contained within the notice and make sure the references are properly formatted. This will help anyone reviewing the article to decide upon the reliability of the sources and/or whether the subject is sufficiently notable. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes. ( ~ ). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:19, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

How to create an english version of a russian page
Hello! We want to create an english version of a russian page https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Окрепилов,_Владимир_Валентинович. We cannot use translation-tool because of restrictions. We have made an english version page as a new page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Okrepilov. How can we link russian and english page? Please contact us as soon as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by О. Евдокимова (talk • contribs) 08:00, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I linked the articles using the "Edit links" link in the Languages section of the sidebar. —teb728 t c 08:11, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by О. Евдокимова (talk • contribs) 08:22, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Format "Literary criticism"
I am writing on a text book article. There are three literary criticisms which I'd like to cite at the bottom. Can someone show me an example, which format/WP script I'm supposed to use for that? THX  GEEZER nil nisi bene 11:46, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * , a look at WP:REFB may help you. WP:REFTOOLBAR is my personal favorite tool. Tigraan Click here to contact me 17:08, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Suzy Miller
On your Suzy Miller bio,there are some inaccurate statements.

The press created the million $ divorce settlements,it is not factual. Suzy has never been jealous of E. Taylor.(other way around) In her modelling carreer she participared in smirnoff vodka,Polaroid,Bensen and hedges international campaign among others. She worked closely with Pierre cardin,Valentino,and a number of high profile fashion houses. She worked in TV advertising in Madrid for one of the largest detergent company ad campaign. Richard Burton adored her and wrote her a note every day.

How do I know this? I am her husband for 19years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.154.202.71 (talk) 12:46, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Adding convenience link. † Dismas †|(talk) 12:47, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Adding convenience link. † Dismas †|(talk) 12:47, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * While we appreciate your desire to keep the article accurate, we also cannot just take the word of someone who claims to be someone related to the subject of an article. After all, anyone could come here claiming to be a husband, wife, brother, daughter, etc. of some notable person. That is why we use reliable sources which are cited in the article. I noticed that you removed on bit of info which even said "it was reported". We aren't saying that it is true. The article clearly says that that is what was reported. If you'd like to add additional information, please leave your suggestions (with links to reliable sources) on the talk page of the article at Talk:Suzy Miller. I advise against editing the article directly since you have a conflict of interest. Thank you, † Dismas †|(talk) 12:53, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Help me template for talk pages of protected pages
I've needed multiple times to shut down an edit request on a protected template's talk because either a) the user did not have obvious consensus for his change or b) the user did not suggest a straightforward change.

Is there some template which can provide visibility to a discussion, besides RFC, for such things? Most of the time, the changes are small, and having an RFC every time for such a case seems like a case of WP:BURO. --Izno (talk) 14:44, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * This has been a long-running issue in my experience. The closest I ever found to guidance on the matter is this. The suggestions aren't template-related, but the best thing I've found to do is to link to the request from the related WikiProject. Noticeboards may be helpful as well depending on the issue. -Thibbs (talk) 12:33, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Find all ['[Special:MyPage/*.css]']
Is there a way to find all existing css files (a possible one being Special:MyPage/common.css) that there are for my accounts (currently only the en: and de: one are really in use, since I am not fluent enough in any other languages) Years ago I created a css that did set the [ ] watch this page to [x] watch this page when I edit a page for the first time, but I forgot how I set that by default in my account. When I recall correct there is more than one way to archive that, and one was creating a css page, and now I cannot find that css page since I not recall its name. (It was obviously not common.css.) Dietmar Lettau (talk) 18:31, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Special:PrefixIndex/User:Dietmar Lettau will show all pages in your userpace, css or otherwise. The equivalent on dewiki is this. Is that what you're looking for? Crow  Caw  18:36, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks like your dewiki common.js contains  which seems to do what you're describing.  Crow  Caw  18:37, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, and yes. I thought "the css is somehow off", and right I was since it was just [samename].js instead. Makes sense since css is just formatting *facepalms*, while js would do such things as auto-settings... Thanks a lot! Dietmar Lettau (talk) 18:44, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Help with moving chart beside beside another chart.
Does anyone know how to make the two pie charts at be beside of each other instead of on top of each other. When you press show preview in that diff, they are beside each other but aren't when you actually save the page for some reason. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 18:39, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * This was resolved. Thanks . WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 19:39, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * When I reload that page, the charts are still on top of each other and not beside of each other. Or do I need to delete my browser cache? Dietmar Lettau (talk) 19:45, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It should work. You may be accidentally clicking on the revision I linked instead of the current state of the page. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 19:48, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

"free field" or "free-field"
I want to to translate the German wikipedia article Freifeld, but, as a web search tells us, and also as Anechoic chamber mentions, both versions ("free field" and "free-field") seem to be in use. Are there wikipedia rules that tell me what the correct article name should be? Dietmar Lettau (talk) 19:26, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * If "free field" is indeed the correct translation of the title, you could call the article "Free field (acoustics)" to disambiguate it from the other similarly named articles. See Diaphragm (acoustics) for an example. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 19:28, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Free field (acoustics) it will be. Seems I used the English wikipedia to test if there is a "free-field" article, but the German one for "free field" or it should have found it. Silly me, too many wikipedia tabs in more than one language open. 19:42, 23 August 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dietmar Lettau (talk • contribs)
 * And hopefully my last 2 questions: How do I manage to link from Free field (acoustics) to the German Freifeld (since there is no German article about the "Free Field (physics)" or as it is titled in English, simply "Free Field". Also, how to add the header line about "did you mean Free Field (acoustics)" (or how it is phrased) into "Free field"? Dietmar Lettau (talk) 20:35, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * 1. At the german wiki, click on "Links hinzufügen" under "Sprachen" at the bottom left to link Free field (acoustics) to the German version.
 * 2. At the top of the article, type in . Or you can type in with brackets instead. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 21:04, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

SFN template problem
Greetings, I've typed up a draft using sfn templates for the citations but the Caffe 2012 footnote doesn't work properly. Can someone fix it? Thanks! Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:24, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Template:Sfn says: "Up to four authors can be given as parameters." The Caffe 2012 footnote has five. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:03, 23 August 2016 (UTC)