Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 August 6

= August 6 =

Quick question about MfD's
If a MfD is older than 7 days and has no discussion whatsoever (no keeps, delete, or anything else) then should it be closed as delete or should it be relisted for discussion? The reason I ask this is because WP:RELISTINGISEVIL doesn't really include this kind of situation. -- MorbidEntree - (Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥) (please reply using &#x7B;&#x7B;ping&#x7D;&#x7D;) 01:12, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

/doc on other Wikipedias
Does someone know how to define several values in order to have documentation subpages recognized as such on other Wikipedia, particularly sr.wiki (/док and /dok should have same effect as /doc).

Problem arose after translating /doc for module documentation subpages on TranslateWiki ( here ) because /doc was used instead of /док and if it is changed to /док – previously created module documentations get recognized by software as pure modules instead of normal Wikipedia page i.e. documentation subpage. --Obsuser (talk) 04:42, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Using a pushpin map in infobox template
I am trying to use the pushpin map parameter of Template:Infobox church to render a map of Vatican City pictured to the right. Ideally, I would like the option to select different maps at different zoom levels like that found in the infobox of St. Patrick's Cathedral (Manhattan), the lower zooms being Rome and Italy. However, when I enter "Vatican City" into the parameter, I see an error warning. Thank you in advance to anyone who can offer advice.  Ergo Sum  04:54, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Adding  to User:Ergo Sum/sandbox/St. Peter's Basilica infobox will make it show two maps, one of Vatican City, and one of Rome with an inset map of Italy. Unfortunately the same caption is displayed below each map; St. Patrick's Cathedral (Manhattan) displays only one caption below its three maps, and I haven't worked out the difference. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * (More) To get two maps with only one caption would need a change to Template:Infobox church, I think. It passes the map caption down to Template:Location map, whereas Template:Infobox NRHP displays it separately. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:12, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you; very helpful. Unfortunately, I don't have template editing privileges, so I'll have to make due with what I have.  Ergo Sum  01:01, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Administrator activity
Where is the best place to look to see whether an administrator has used his tools in the last year or so? --Guy Macon (talk) 06:10, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Guy Macon, here. --Neil N  talk to me 06:16, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks! It is a bit scary seeing that there are only 800 admins who have made more than three admin actions since 01 January 2015. --Guy Macon (talk) 07:41, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

What happened to the parser profiling data displayed when previewing a page?
The 'Parser profiling data' menu now only displays 'Number of Wikibase entities loaded', instead of also showing 'Real-time CPU usage', 'Post-expand include size', 'Preprocessor node count', Expensive parser function count' etc. as it did in the past. My Chemistry romantic (talk) 07:16, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

gif to svg, bot to replace?
I converted a .gif image to an .svg image from the https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Top_200_map_images_that_should_use_vector_graphics. First I made changes to the original .png to improve it; added the rest of the island of Great Britian, recolored the image so adjacent areas were distinct, and added a black line at the boarders. Then I uploaded my .gif with the exact same name as the original, execpt for the extension, because mine was in the gif format. QUESTION ONE: How did my new version get so many links? Overnight there were dozens of links listed. Then I saw the note that the image should be an .svg, so I converted my new image, and uploaded the new .svg version. The reason the image is on that list is that it is used on a lot of Wikipages. QUESTION TWO: is there a bot that will fire up, and replace all .gif usages with my .svg image? I am doing this one Wikipage at a time, by hand edits; on both the .gif, and the original .png pages in Wikimedia. I mean I am clicking on the links in the "Used on" list, one at a time, and editing those pages. Thanks, Nick Beeson (talk) 13:31, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

i need to know from where the source came from
on this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein#The_formation_of_a_Jewish_state it said " He supported the creation of a Jewish national homeland in the British mandate of Palestine but was initially opposed to the idea of a Jewish state "with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power.” now it show me the source from Einstein on Politics: His Private Thoughts and Public Stands on Nationalism, Zionism, War, Peace, and the Bomb but i want to know from which page from this book this book supporting this claim im not leaving comment on the talk message because i saw nobody comment there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.57.138.132 (talk) 13:48, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe that the :33 after the reference means that it is sourced to page 33. P p p er y  (talk) 13:56, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. Pppery is correct. The :33 is the page in the reference. Nick Beeson (talk) 14:13, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Removal of Image
I uploaded an image of an actress who has requested it be removed. the link https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ABContactPhotoView_FullscreenPhoto.jpg but apparently only an admin can remove it. Please help if possible. Pirhounix 17:25, 6 August 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pirhounix (talk • contribs) 17:24, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Why? -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  20:20, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Because she considers it unflattering? Maybe she would be willing to provide a better one? Maproom (talk) 21:26, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Accidentally Submitted Duplicate Articles
Hello thank you for reading this. I wrote an article, Alfred Young, (now Draft:Alfred Young) in my sandbox, and accidentally submitted it twice.

My sandbox initially indicated that my submission was number ~600 in line for review.

Directly after, I also created a draft page of my article hoping to migrate my work onto the draft page (I now realize this probably confused my situation further).

The next day, my sandbox said that the submission had been declined because it was a duplicate and that my other submission was queued for review.

I wish to edit the queued submission.

The moderator who declined the duplicate said to stick to either a draft or the sandbox so I requested the draft be deleted.

A link to the draft now appears on my sandbox page instead of the article itself and the draft is now the only copy of the article I can find.

My question is: is my article Alfred Young still in line for review in some form? I would like the most current version of Draft:Alfred Young to be considered for my submission - what steps are necessary, if any, to accomplish this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlynn55 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * What's happened here is somewhat complicated - the page previously titled Draft:Alfred Young was deleted at your request five days ago. Then, than same day, User:Dlynn55/sandbox was moved to Draft:Alfred Young. Thus, there is only one draft currently, which is not submitted for review. You could sumbit that without it being declined as duplicate. P p p er y  (talk) 20:14, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi and thanks for the article! It looks like you requested deletion of one of the two, which was done on August 1. The version now at Draft:Alfred Young is not pending review at this time. It was taken out of the queue when the other version was reviewed. You can edit the current (and only) version at any time at Draft:Alfred Young. Crow  Caw  20:21, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you both for your prompt answers - I now see in my sandbox logs that somebody other than I moved my sandbox article to Draft:Alfred Young. I originally submitted my article some time ago - if I submit again is there any way I can recover my place in the queue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlynn55 (talk • contribs) 23:14, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Not that I know of. You'll have to wait for your draft to reach the front of the line. There is no deadline anyway. P p p er y  (talk) 23:40, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Your place in the queue wasn't changed by the renaming of the draft. The date of submission of the draft is the date that you submitted it, not the date that I moved it.  In other words, just be patient.  The moving (renaming) didn't change your place in the queue.  Robert McClenon (talk) 00:28, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The draft is not currently in the queue, because it has not yet been resubmitted after its last review. It is, of course, not a "first in, first out" queue. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:36, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Ok thank you, I'll submit my draft for review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlynn55 (talk • contribs) 02:04, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Infobox image that I added suddenly disappeared after a few weeks, now I can't add it anymore
Hi, I rightfully uploaded an image with the creator's consent and used it on a infobox on this page https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionel_Agrigoroaei. It worked for a few weeks until today when it just disappeared. The source code is just the same as I left it and I've been trying to edit it in different ways but I can't seem to get the picture back. Any help on how to add a picture to an infobox? Curiositymarsrover (talk) 19:46, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Why do you ask here? This is English Wikipedia, not Romanian. Ruslik_ Zero 20:11, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know Romanian or Lua (the language used by modules), but after [//ro.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Modul:InfoboxBiography&diff=10680544&oldid=10663566 this] module edit the infobox used in ro:Ionel Agrigoroaei appears to ignore the  parameter and only look for an image name in the wikidata item wikidata:Q19702949 which had no image. I have added your image there [//www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q19702949&diff=362212451&oldid=358487615] and it now displays in the article. I have posted to the module editor at ro:User talk:Andrei Stroe. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:54, 6 August 2016 (UTC)