Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 August 8

= August 8 =

How can I remove the Template citations
I have just corrected the issues for the article on Shuddhaanandaa Brahmachari. How do I remove the template issues on the top of the page and is it OK to do so?

Normanadari (talk) 01:13, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can remove those message - see Help:Maintenance template removal (which is linked as Learn how and when to remove these template messages in the multiple issues template) for how. P p p er y  (talk) 01:30, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Can doing paid work on Wikipedia harm future endeavours?
Hello. I've read up on Wikimedia's ToU FAQ about paid editing, but does doing paid editing and the such hurt a user's chances at furthering their "career" on Wikipedia? Such as it being a reason for a RfA to fail or to be stripped of some permissions? -- MorbidEntree - (Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥) (please reply using &#x7B;&#x7B;ping&#x7D;&#x7D;) 02:38, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


 * That FAQ is on "paid contributions without disclosure". I could be mistaken but I would assume that FAQ would not be applicable to paid contributions with disclosure. Bus stop (talk) 02:47, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd assume it's essentially the same thing since it outlines how exactly to disclose your paid contributions and what qualifies as a paid contribution. -- MorbidEntree - (Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥) (please reply using &#x7B;&#x7B;ping&#x7D;&#x7D;) 02:49, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It's a good question. I don't know the answer. Bus stop (talk) 02:57, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhaps an administrator could provide better insight? -- MorbidEntree - (Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥) (please reply using &#x7B;&#x7B;ping&#x7D;&#x7D;) 03:22, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Tagging and  for their opinion on this. -- MorbidEntree - (Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥) (please reply using &#x7B;&#x7B;ping&#x7D;&#x7D;) 04:44, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * You are asking about how paid editing, done now, will be regarded by community consensus in a few years' time. I doubt anyone can provide an authoritative answer. My own guess is that properly disclosed and competently done paid editing will receive increasing acceptance and respect. Maproom (talk) 06:58, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I figured that the answers would be like "well this is what I think..." or something like that. -- MorbidEntree - (Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥) (please reply using &#x7B;&#x7B;ping&#x7D;&#x7D;) 10:05, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * For me personally it wouldn't be a problem at all, but I know that some editors believe that any paid editing on WP at all is entirely toxic to the project, so I imagine they would be more inclined to oppose an RfA. — crh 23   &thinsp;(Talk) 10:48, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Money is a big factor but people can be opinionated in the absence of a paycheck. I tend to deemphasize paid editorship in favor of an evaluation of adherence to our priorities concerning a neutral point of view. Bus stop (talk) 14:58, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * User:Crh23 hits the nail on the head, I think. For myself, I wouldn't have a problem with it, so long as the status of the editor is properly disclosed and considered.  But I suspect that enough people will remain opposed to all paid editing in all forms that it would make an RfA difficult, if not impossible, to pass.  -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 07:15, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Adding a photo to an Infobox
Can someone please help me add a photo to the Infobox for Shuddhaanandaa Brahmachari. Thank you Normanadari (talk) 03:15, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Are you thinking of a particular photo? Where is it at present? Maproom (talk) 06:59, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Who relists deletion discussions?
Who can relist discussions for articles for deletion after a week of discussion? How can I do so if I have that right? The guidelines did not make it clear enough for me to understand. Thanks! Tseung Kwan O Let's talk 03:26, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:RELIST contains the technical how-to, and it also says ...it may be appropriate for the closer to relist it..., so the same considerations as for a non-admin closure apply. You need to not be involved in the AfD, and to be familiar with the AfD guidelines, so as not to relist discussions which could be closed. (In particular, AfD is not a numeric tally of the !votes, but I guess you know that already.) Tigraan Click here to contact me 07:54, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your reply. So that means the person who nominated the article for deletion could not relist the discussion, or am I interperting it the wrong way? Tseung Kwan O Let's talk 08:11, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * that is correct, the nominator is involved in the discussion and as such the shouldn't relist it. — crh 23   &thinsp;(Talk) 10:50, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I think you could relist your own AfD the first time or maybe the first two times if none commented, invoking WP:IAR. But you should absolutely not relist when others commented - if they all agree with you, then the AfD could be closed, and if not, an unbiaised closer might think the arguments against the nomination are better and close accordingly - thus, relisting would be seen as fishing for better support.
 * The only case where the nominator should close is when they withdraw a nomination that nobody supported, usually when new information comes to light (example). Tigraan Click here to contact me 11:23, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you both for your kind replies! Tseung Kwan O Let's talk 17:25, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Deletions across different languages of that article.
Does deleting the English wiki page of an article (through nominate for deletion) also delete the Chinese or Spanish page of that article? Tseung Kwan O Let's talk 03:28, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No. The projects are 100% separate and one has zero bearing over another. Admins here have no powers anywhere else (unless specifically appointed as an admin on another project). --Majora (talk) 03:46, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Richard Whittington
What is wrong with ref number 11? I did not do the edit - it was done some time ago. Srbernadette (talk) 04:09, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Nothing is wrong with it. It's linking to a page that doesn't exist, which is why the author's name is red.  I can fix that. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:46, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

iGreet's page title name
Hello there!

I created this page for the augmented reality developers iGreet but after I posted it, the small "i" became a capital "I", which is incorrect. Unfortunately, I don't have the rights to change the title name (and the URL, for that matter) so I hope you'll be able to help me out with this one and change it to "iGreet"? That would be great!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IGreet

All the best, Georgi

BGTitan (talk) 11:32, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


 * I have added lowercase title to change the display at top of the page. The real title of pages cannot start with a lower case letter so it will still say IGreet in categories, searches and other places. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:50, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Fair use image misnamed and used on wrong page
The image File:Ubuntu CoA.png is incorrectly described as the coat of arms of the Ubuntu Local Municipality. It is in fact the coat of arms of the town of Victoria West which is the seat of the municipality, but not the only town in the municipality. The actual logo of the Ubuntu municipality is http://www.ubuntu.gov.za/images/stories/gallery/logo.jpg

I have moved the COA image to the Victoria West article, but the fair use rationale is now incorrect. However fair use does not actually apply as the COA is well over 100 years old and thus in the public domain.

I need help moving the image to the correct title, replacing the fair use rationale with a PD licence and also uploading the correct Ubuntu municipality logo. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:06, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * If I was you, I would upload the COA again under the appropriate title, and send the other one to deletion as misleading, all that. That is not much harder considering the copyright has to be changed anyways, and a redlink is better than an update at the places it was used incorrectly (as the CoA of the locality).
 * Of course, you need to be sure that the copyright expired. If the town changed the background color to be from "white" to "almost white" it would re-launch the copyright, from what I understand. If the file is indeed free use, consider uploading it at WP:COMMONS instead. Tigraan <span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me 16:43, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Files can be moved by some people P p p e<big style="position:relative;top:10px">r y  <big style="position:relative;top:5px">(talk) 16:49, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:01, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Mistake in your update
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chief_Ministers_of_Gujarat

He is Vijay rupani not hardik Patel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.38.206.143 (talk) 16:01, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you. The name was changed by an anonymous user a few hours ago. As far as I can see, their change is wrong, and I have undone it. I can't tell whether they were mistaken or malicious. Generally the article's talk page is the best place to bring up issues about the content of an article. --ColinFine (talk) 16:32, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Alex Winston - Edits to page
Hello!

I am one of Alex Winston's managers. I need to alter her page to reflect some updated information, as well as edit her profile photo for Wikipedia.

I'm having trouble doing this - can you help?

Thanks.

Natalie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Natalieshmanager (talk • contribs) 16:59, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Please sign your post by typing four tildes ( ~ ) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: [[Image:Signature_icon.png]]. Do NOT sign in articles.. To answer your question, you should not be editing an article about your own company or organization, since you have a conflict of interest.  P p p e<big style="position:relative;top:10px">r y  <big style="position:relative;top:5px">(talk) 17:04, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Sure, we can help. Please propose the changes on Talk:Alex Winston. You will need to carefully follow our advice on editing with a conflict of interest. You can use File Upload Wizard to upload a photo. - NQ  (talk)  17:23, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


 * I suppose the page is Alex Winston. First of all,, welcome on Wikipedia (WP), but you shall receive the usual angry grumbling: this is not Alex Winston's page (or its "profile"), this is Wikipedia's page about Alex Winston; while you may contribute, you have no more control over its content that any other editor - however, you may have better access to information and be able to help better.
 * You seem to admit that editing this WP page is part of your job. In that case, I urge you to read WP:PAID, which says how you should disclose that fact. Once that disclosure is done, you should request edits on the talk page of the article using the template (click link to see how it works), rather than performing them yourself.
 * For the photo: uploading the photo itself will not get you into any "paid-editing" trouble, so you can do that, but to include it in an article, you need to follow the previous procedure. Anyways, you have two main options.


 * 1) One is to upload a non-free photo, which means there are restrictions on what you can upload. I am not even sure you can upload anything; if the current photo is not copyright infringement, it is free content, hence should not be replaced by non-free (see WP:NFCC #1). Incorrect, see Dodger67's comment below.  Tigraan <span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me 07:12, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) The other is to release a photograph under Wikipedia's licence, but you need to make sure you are allowed to do that; read that link carefully to see the consequences, and the procedure to follow (do not just upload a photo from AW's website, we need to verify you really are who you claim to be).
 * If you have any technical difficulties after having read my links, please do ask for help again. Tigraan <span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me 17:32, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Just a correction - non-free photos of living people are not permitted at all, because it is always (at least hypothetically) possible for someone to create a free one. The easiest solution is for you to personally take a photo of Alex Winston and upload it as your own work. In terms of US copyright law the copyright of a photo belongs to the photographer unless a legal agreement transferring it to someone else says otherwise. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:33, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Consensus about a photo choice in United states presidential election 2016
Hi, we've been discussing in the united states presidential election 2016 talk page about the Clinton image, I introduced the topic and various users have been voted yes for the new picture, but my question is, how do we get consensus to change the image? So far everybody seem to agree on the new image, how do I move forward on changing it?? The conversation is called Clinton image (voting) Thanks!TexasMan34 (talk) 17:28, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I changed the header to something more descriptive. I suppose refers to this thread. I think waiting one more week would not hurt; once that is done, the consensus has created himself. No need for a formal RfC or something like that, just have an uninvolved editor make the change and close the thing if necessary.  Tigraan <span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me 17:38, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Disambiguation when only one of the articles exist
I noticed that Lodge (disambiguation) linked to The Lodge (TV series), which was presumably a redlink. Since then, someone turned it into a blue link, but it's about a newer, 2016 series. Is there any need for further disambiguation if the page for the older series does not currently exist? nyuszika7h (talk) 18:09, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Not yet. If the older series gets an article, pages can be moved accordingly. P p p e<big style="position:relative;top:10px">r y  <big style="position:relative;top:5px">(talk) 18:12, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Biography issues with subject of bio
I've encountered cases where the subject of a biography believes that the material in the article is incorrect (including but not limited to dates, titles, names...). I've spent about 20 minutes trying to find whether there's a template that indicates that the person claims there is incorrect info on the page. Since they're not supposed to edit their own articles, how is this resolved? Relevant to an article that I'm updating now. (I'm an admin but, wow, there's a lot of info here to plow through these days!) Elf | Talk 18:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm reading through a similar post from a subject's manager. Trying to figure out how that applies. Elf | Talk 19:00, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe the proper way to handle that is to place Request edit on the article's talk page. P p p e<big style="position:relative;top:10px">r y  <big style="position:relative;top:5px">(talk) 19:04, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Also bear in mind that anyone can claim to be the subject of a BLP article. One can't just assume they are telling the truth.--Mrs Wibble-Wobble (talk) 19:09, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Can we assume that you've seen WP:AUTOBIO? † Dismas †|(talk) 22:39, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No, I hadn't. Thanks, Dismas. Elf | Talk 00:05, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

can you sell wikipedia pages in a book
I am making a book on the history of south india  Tamil nadu and kerala from prehistoric  days to the present day i am going to use some wikipedia articles can i sell it or do i have to make it free  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.200.128.193 (talk) 22:05, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Our licensing allows for reuse, even for commercial ventures. However, you must attribute what you have taken or that would constitute copyright infringement. There are further restrictions on images and you need to be aware of all the various licensing terms before you use them. Please see WP:Reuse for more info. --Majora (talk) 22:13, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * In addition to the attribution requirement, if you do anything beyond simply copying in content verbatim, then the "Share Alike" requirement of our license comes in to play: If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same, similar or a compatible license. Crow  Caw  23:10, 8 August 2016 (UTC)